King Heffy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Nobody “gave him” anything. He was signed as a free agent. It didn’t work out. That happens. But it’s not like Vancouver did him a huge favour and he had no other options in free agency. Vancouver did do him a huge favor by not suspending him without pay for his tantrum last offseason. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Didn't the Canucks pay out Loui's bonuses, and now he's owed only $5 over the next 2 seasons? ($2.5 per year) That sounds a lot better than $6 per year. Something's brewing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 well this is encouraging. I don't think LeBrun puts Barry's name out there like this unless there's something cooking. Maybe they're checking one more time to see if any other GMs call but this reeks of Melnyk. Ottawa is actually a very a nice city with some very good restaurants. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Nobody “gave him” anything. He was signed as a free agent. It didn’t work out. That happens. But it’s not like Vancouver did him a huge favour and he had no other options in free agency. I mean, I feel like you missed the point and my point still stands. Edited September 18, 2020 by shayster007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 It's time for old-man Loui to retire whether he likes it or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Nobody “gave him” anything. He was signed as a free agent. It didn’t work out. That happens. But it’s not like Vancouver did him a huge favour and he had no other options in free agency. the 2016 free agent year was a mother&^@#er for a lot of teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Robert Long said: well this is encouraging. I don't think LeBrun puts Barry's name out there like this unless there's something cooking. Maybe they're checking one more time to see if any other GMs call but this reeks of Melnyk. Ottawa is actually a very a nice city with some very good restaurants. yes yes. and a lovely place to leisurely skate with your kids on the canal. you can't do that in Vancouver! I hear interest rates are low as well..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, shayster007 said: I mean, that's factually false. Give, by definition, is to transfer ownership of something. The owners had 31 million dollars, over the last number of years they gave him 31 million dollars. No. They paid him his contractually negotiated salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Robert Long said: the 2016 free agent year was a mother&^@#er for a lot of teams. Epically bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, qwijibo said: No. They paid him his contractually negotiated salary. Yeah yeah, don't really care to be honest. Doesn't change my point at all. The guy is up 31 million and that last 5 million will be a real kick to the nards to the team who PAID (happy?) him 31 million bucks. If I was in that position, I would retire with all that money instead of likely riding a bus for a year Edited September 18, 2020 by shayster007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) Arizona is going to lose out on Hall and then probably trade one of their goalies and possibly OEL. They'll have cap space and need to recoup prospects (thanks Chayka). Might be another potential partner. Edited September 18, 2020 by Down by the River Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, oldnews said: yes yes. and a lovely place to leisurely skate with your kids on the canal. you can't do that in Vancouver! I hear interest rates are low as well..... and tulips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldnews Posted September 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Cap circumvention. You’re not allowed to pay more than the going rate for a position btw - don't talk to Vancouverites about cap circumvention. we don't gaf. between the archipelago Robidas, the comical equipment allergies, the selectively enforced Luongo recrap... the NHL can jog on if it believes it could occupy any high ground about 'cap circumvention' 2 4 6 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkSave Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 34 minutes ago, nux4lyfe said: Honestly, At this point I'd give up a first to unload him..Dude has no value but a price tag. But we can't... There is that damn Miller trade coming back to bite us. I hate his compete level alongside his skill mixed with sand paper. We are not unloading a 1st round pick simply to rid ourselves of him. A trade is possible based on the info LeBrun shared in his article. Throw in a prospect a team likes and it could happen. (Just not one of our high end prospects). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, shayster007 said: Yeah yeah, don't really care to be honest. Doesn't change my point at all. The guy is up 31 million and that last 5 million will be a real kick to the nards to the team who PAID him 31 million bucks. Part of the business. You get some contracts that are sweetheart deals (like only having to pay Pettersson on Hughes the ELC Max) and you have contracts that turn out to be poor value. Quit acting like its more than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, oldnews said: I think Ottawa is the most obvious option. With the wildcard there being how cheap ass whatshisface is. In real, economic terms LE represents cold, hard cash savings via his 2.5 million for 6 million cap hit. Everyone may perceive the leverage to be in Ottawa's hands, but realistically, there may be some underlying demand for these type contracts particularly under the economic circumstances. Personally - I think there 'should' be a compliance buyout under the circumstances - to keep teams icing better products where it matters. Ottawa has 5 forwards under contract at this point. And 4 defensemen. Both Anisimov and Gaborik also only have 1 year of term remaining. So there could be the possiblity of doubling up - adding Benn, for example, to a deal. Best case scenario they could move LE, Benn and a Roussel in one go....if it took adding a good prospect or decent pick, so be it. On the other hand, if the team manages to sign their 3 UFAs within the cap, is there really much need to spend a lot? Not necessarily. Beyond our 3 I'd really only be looking at a depth signing like Richardson - perhaps dumping a moveable contract for next to nothing. I think the pickle Benning is supposed to be in might be a bit overstated in general. I'm not sure they have to bother moving LE to get it done. What about Roussel and Benn to Ottawa for a minor leaguer.....that imo is/could be easy enough - and gain them the space they need, with replaceable veteran depth. He's so cheap, when he flatulates, loonies come out of his butt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: He's so cheap, when he flatulates, loonies come out of his butt. I've been theorizing for a while now that that cheap weirdo is going to try to be a cap floor team. @mll is going to owe me a coke if it happens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Down by the River said: Arizona is going to lose out on Hall and then probably trade one of their goalies and possibly OEL. They'll have cap space and need to recoup prospects (thanks Chayka). Might be another potential partner. Was listening to Gus Katsaros yesterday on TSN1290, and he was talking just how bad the financial situation is in Arizona, which may be the driving force behind moving OEL and Clayton Keller. He was saying that their owner, Alex Meruelo, who owns several businesses, has obviously taken a massive hit financially to his two casinos in Reno and Vegas. The Coyotes, which we've all known for a long, long time, have had huge financial troubles; but this even extended to their current players now receiving their bonuses paid later than the normal expected date. Understandably so, this would make any current and future player unsure of signing in Arizona. Edited September 18, 2020 by Monty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, oldnews said: yes yes. and a lovely place to leisurely skate with your kids on the canal. you can't do that in Vancouver! I hear interest rates are low as well..... But you can leisurely skate at Roger's areana... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IBatch Posted September 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2020 To me this is nothing more then JB a doing his job and kicking some tires. The bright side of LE and Luongo is money in the bank for after our core is set....next season is when the real magic is required and hope whatever is done this off-season is with that in mind. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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