IBatch Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Right now, in our lineup Tyler Myers won the Calder as a rookie Thanks ...ha ha. Really was stumped. I almost had a stroke thinking I’d forgotten someone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I think Hughes should have won based on better overall stats and not having MacKinnon and others help carry. I wouldn't say he was robbed and fully expected this. No way they wanted to give us 2 in a row.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Makar was way too hyped not to win this. Doesn't hurt him that he plays on a stacked team that the media anointed the next cup winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, IBatch said: Thanks ...ha ha. Really was stumped. I almost had a stroke thinking I’d forgotten someone. In all fairness, it was a while ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tystick Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Disappointing but you can't say Makar doesn't deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Jon Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Slegr said: Hughes deserved it. But on the bright side, it might bring his impending contract down a few dollars next year? HA! Nice try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Provost said: I have heard the radio guys ask a lot of their guests who they would want out of the three young elite D and every one of them said Makar, even the ones who said they would have voted for Hughes as the Calder winner this year. We don't have to get upset that there are other great young players out there or that it minimizes the fact Hughes is already the best defenceman that has ever been on the team. For sure. It’s been close to 40 years since I’ve seen this sort of young D talent take the league by storm. Heiskanen, Dahlin, Hughes and Makar - what a great time to be hockey fans. Coffey’s comparisons have been made to Heiskanen this playoffs - he’s just that good skating effortlessly with the puck ... Dahlin didn’t disappoint as an 18 year old ... Makar shot from the middle of the top 100 best prospects right to near the top before the season started and also came as advertised - and Hughes blew expectations out of the water with his record breaking post season. Best thing is we have one of these crazy good players on our team. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I would have given Makar my vote too. He had the better season. With that said if I'm building a team I'm rakjng Hughes over Makar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Tystick said: Disappointing but you can't say Makar doesn't deserve it. Totally. I love Hughes but he didn't get robbed Makar is plain better. Edited September 22, 2020 by Chris12345 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, MystifyNCrucify said: For what its worth, Gretzky didnt win the Calder either. because he wasn't eligible. He was considered a professional player prior to his firt NHL season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Bang Boogie Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, bree2 said: the way i look at it is Hughes was played on all four lines to help the lines out, Makar played solely with MacKinnon, who helped their team the most and that would be Hughes, but its done and i am sure Hughes will keep making history he is that good! This is exactly what somebody who's never seen Makar play would say. Both are fantastic young players and already stars in the NHL. Only one of them could've won it. Let's just enjoy their careers, it's going to be fun to watch both of them for a long time. Edited September 22, 2020 by Bang Bang Boogie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) Nothing wrong with finishing 2nd in the vote for Calder. Both players were fantastic choices.... 2 future hall of famers.... Makar is a year older so pretty amazing for Hughes to be that close.... Edited September 22, 2020 by kingofsurrey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 No unexpected. Makar was pumped a lot more than Hughes. Sometimes it's just name recognition that garners more votes. The only way Quinn could have won is if Makar was out longer and Quinn pulled ahead in terms of points by like 15 points or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Makar is a year older than QH... Just sayin..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Oh my god people. This thread reaks so much of homerism that its embarrassing. Did i actually see one poster say Hughes can be the best player in the NHL? I understand this city is desperate for an elite dman but the fans need to put the breaks on hyping Hughes into something hes not. Makar was a force everytime he stepped on the ice. He had the better year and defends better than Hughes will ever be able to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 This is like a FOX/CNN headline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Sean Monahan said: He did, but the analytics favor Quinn. QoC, oZone/dZone starts, shot metrics, etc. I thought it might give Quinn a bit of an edge. Makar scored more goals, a higher ppg average, and was +12 to Quinns -10. I'm not the least surprised Makar won. Production almost always determines the winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, Baggins said: Makar scored more goals, a higher ppg average, and was +12 to Quinns -10. I'm not the least surprised Makar won. Production almost always determines the winner. I never denied the raw totals favoured Makar. I said the analytics and the impact the player had on their team (IMO) favour Hughes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: Oh my god people. This thread reaks so much of homerism that its embarrassing. Did i actually see one poster say Hughes can be the best player in the NHL? I understand this city is desperate for an elite dman but the fans need to put the breaks on hyping Hughes into something hes not. Makar was a force everytime he stepped on the ice. He had the better year and defends better than Hughes will ever be able to. That's a stupid thing to say. If the comment that Hughes can be the best player in the NHL is so embarrassing, then your claim that Makar defends better than Hughes will ever be able to is on par, if not even more embarrassing. How do you know? You've been to the future? Makar didn't look great on that goal he served up against Dallas. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 21 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: Oh my god people. This thread reaks so much of homerism that its embarrassing. Did i actually see one poster say Hughes can be the best player in the NHL? I understand this city is desperate for an elite dman but the fans need to put the breaks on hyping Hughes into something hes not. Makar was a force everytime he stepped on the ice. He had the better year and defends better than Hughes will ever be able to. Maybe - that said Makar only had 13% more voting points then QHs, one of the closer Calder’s the last few decades. Can get that we all watched QHs a lot more then Makar - they were leaps and bounds ahead of anyone else in their class. Saying he will defend better then QHs will ever be able too is going a little further then you need too. Like a lot of folks you have to wonder if the roles were reversed and they were on opposite teams, would QHs have taken this one home. They are both incredible talents. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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