Provost Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Crimson-JH said: I think this is really a slap to face for Brock Boeser, and Connor McDavid. They were injured during their rookie year and didn’t win the Calder. Cale was injured and still won it. Ridiculous logic to me. McDavid missed almost half the season, so the sample size was just too small. Boeser missed a big chunk and was out scored by 30 points and even in PPG by Barzal (who deserved to win). Even if you extrapolated Boeser’s numbers to a full season, he doesn’t come close to Barzal. Hughes had just 3 more points and 4 less goals than Makar who played 11 less games. I would have voted for Hughes, but Makar is a legitimate winner and came in with a bigger name. Using terms like “slap in the face” and “robbed” are genuinely just ridiculous. Makar is a deserving winner, and Hughes would have been. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Crimson-JH said: I think this is really a slap to face for Brock Boeser, and Connor McDavid. They were injured during their rookie year and didn’t win the Calder. Cale was injured and still won it. Or Patrik Laine, who lost to Auston Matthews even though he had more points per game. How appropriate that Eastern media decided it mattered more to be able to prove you can stay healthy that year, and this year it was more about PPG. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 14 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: It was Murat Ates who gave a first-place vote to Adam Fox. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RUV95kCzXunhJgyQP4Qi4TwsR7kB4Oy9/view Now I understand why the writers had different opinions. They're not completely out to lunch. Adam Fox (defenseman) was producing a lot of points on a terrible NYR team. Dominik Kubilik's first NHL season was a 30 goal season. I think Makar was the correct choice in general, but an argument definitely could be made for Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) Offensively Makar was better. Defensively Makar was better. Physically Makar was better. Makar is an all around player and the only chance Quinn had was to outscore him which he really didn't do when you look at the games played. Hughes had a great year but Makar was better. The only reason this was as close as it was is because of Makars injury. Edited September 22, 2020 by peaches5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Good. He'll only come back next year with a chip on his shoulder trying to prove how wrong these guys were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I am a huge fan of Quinn Hughes. I think he is going to be our best D ever, and have his jersey retired one day. He had a ridiculous rookie season, one of the best ever by a D. Makar is also all of those things to Colorado. He was very deserving, it could have gone either way. Hughes was not robbed, he lost a close vote against another stud D. This doesn't take anything away from Hughes season. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 Upon further reflection, I’ve changed the title of this topic and removed “robbed”. He should have still won in my opinion.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I really don't like the title...HE didn't do anything, they got it wrong. He really did deserve it but he'll show them all why they were wrong next year. Look out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 17 hours ago, IBatch said: 2 winners? Hmmm. Bure was awhile ago. Three finalists in a row. Can’t remember a team that’s done that before - but maybe I’m not paying enough attention. He's referring to Myers and Pettersson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samgagner'sface Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 14 hours ago, stawns said: because he wasn't eligible. He was considered a professional player prior to his firt NHL season I think Crosby not winning the Calder might be a more fitting comparison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 This was really about as close as it can get. Happy for Hughes to achieve this much in his first year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 14 hours ago, stawns said: because he wasn't eligible. He was considered a professional player prior to his firt NHL season But, yet, Makarov wasn't. Go figure (an "amateur" who just happened to be a "soldier" in the Red Army team) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Provost said: Ridiculous logic to me. McDavid missed almost half the season, so the sample size was just too small. Boeser missed a big chunk and was out scored by 30 points and even in PPG by Barzal (who deserved to win). Even if you extrapolated Boeser’s numbers to a full season, he doesn’t come close to Barzal. Hughes had just 3 more points and 4 less goals than Makar who played 11 less games. I would have voted for Hughes, but Makar is a legitimate winner and came in with a bigger name. Using terms like “slap in the face” and “robbed” are genuinely just ridiculous. Makar is a deserving winner, and Hughes would have been. Well there are a few other considerations favoring Makar other than ppg. Per 60 minutes Makar also outhit Hughes, had more takeaways, fewer giveaways, and blocked more shots. While averaging slightly lower ice per game. It's not that Hughes wouldn't have been a good choice to win, overall Makar was the better choice. As I said earlier, I expected Makar to win. I don't think the decision had to do with having the bigger name given their stats, but I agree it doesn't fall under the robbery label. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS4quality Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I was more surprised that he didn't get few more first place votes. He was pretty noticeable playing in the all-star game. I'm not saying Makar was the wrong choice for Calder, I just expected more votes for Hughes. That being said, I hope he uses this as motivation to dominate the league next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirston Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Unbelievable the whiners who think he was robbed lmfao. It was very close race and probably the current best player was makar. We’ll see in few years who the true best player is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) Good take on this by The Hockey Guy Grrr - link won't paste Edited September 22, 2020 by Googlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I’m surprised that some are surprised by this. Wasn’t this leaked weeks ago that it was all but Makar’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogy Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) My bias is that age must be the primary tie breaker in a close contest. Hughes is 12 months younger than Makar and therefore should be the winner. I also think that what Rasmus Dahlin did when he was 18 was more impressive than what Hughes and Makar did in their 20's Edited September 22, 2020 by Maddogy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetterssonOrPeterson Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 15 hours ago, Heretic said: I was going to say, if Makar was a Canuck and Hughes an Av - Hughes would have won it. I agree. Because Hughes would've played with better point producers and likely wouldn't have a -10 on the Avalanche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Now we need to cram a candidate in for the 4th consecutive freeken' YR, eh?! That would be nice. Imagine if OJ suddenly went beast-mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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