Rush17 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 33 minutes ago, x00x said: with this atttitude, no team will want lou , u have to sweeten the deal or why would any GM want lou, JB come on bro Good. Will just tell him he's going to the Ahl next season. He can either show up in the A at a lower cap hit then a buyout.. or he can refuse to show up and he ends up getting terminated. His agent has been given permisson to talk to teams. No one wants him at his current cap hit. He can choose what he wants to do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I think in general, if fans are worried about not being able to sign our UFA's, they should have a look around the league on CapFriendly and notice exactly what position all teams are in, and what might be available during the off season. It would really suck losing Tanev etc, but at the same time, we have some really good prospects in our system who can step in as well as the fact that there are going to be more players than there are dollars to go around out there. There will be a lot of teams that set internal caps for next season that are below the flat cap. My personal guess is, as many as 15 - 20 teams may refuse to spend to the cap and set internals. That equates to a LOT of players not being renewed as teams shift to more guys on ELC to fill the gaps or go hunting for bargains. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, Teemu Selänne said: Eriksson for Stralman exactly. realistic? no, not really. Stralman, imo is not negative cap value - but whether LE's cap savings make enough sense for a team to return a more serviceable player (and cap hit) in exchange for the cash savings - is the challenge Barry faces imo. you've shown a good example imo. you never know - it could work. but the process of searching for that magical, acceptable deal ought to give LE a realistic estimation of his market value (how negative it probably is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) I really hope Benning doesn't think he can move Eriksson without doing one or the other. 6mil for a 4th liner is ridiculous. Even if it's for the ever popular "future considerations". It's gonna cost a high pick and/or a really solid prospect to move him. Or retaining half and throwing in a 2nd rounder+. If he or whoever can pull it off. Bless their soul. Edited September 23, 2020 by N7Nucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) I would totally trade lou for lucic ( Atleast with lucic, he plays a tough rough style ) , since both make similar salarys .... and both would benefit a new team lol Edited September 23, 2020 by x00x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I can't see them ripping up the contract without the NHL creating cap penalties against the Canucks. LE has made more than his cap hit of $6M/yr up to date based on the payout. The only option is to trade the cap hit in my mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 So essentially we are likely not trading him unless it's for an similarly bad player at a similarly bad contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, x00x said: I would totally trade lou for lucic ( Atleast with lucic, he plays a tough rough style ) , since both make similar salarys .... and both would benefit a new team lol Nope! Lou can at least kill a PK in the playoffs. Lucic puts you on the PK in the playoffs at terrible times! Plus....isn't Lucic's contract an extra year longer? Edited September 23, 2020 by NHL97OneTimer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 43 minutes ago, EP40. said: I don’t understand why people think Rick is not a trustworthy insider anymore when he reports on bad news for the team. He literally has contacts and gets in touch with them that no others in the business do. It’s coming from Eriksson’s agent having spoken with him. Don’t get this at all. Good news = he’s great. Bad news = he’s a troll. Pick one b/c imo, he’s doing the same as he’s always done and he’s respected among all his peers for it. Dhaliwal began to lose trust when he started trying to become a radio personality instead of a journalist. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: So essentially we are likely not trading him unless it's for an similarly bad player at a similarly bad contract. I don't see a trade on Loui. I said earlier here, I like Benning's approach here, he's putting Loui in a box and forcing him to find a way out. This team has been incredibly patient with Loui, we vastly overpaid him vs how he has actually performed for us. My guess is, Benning has set a deadline for Loui's agent, to find a suitable solution, or Benning will assume that Loui is just going to spend the next 2 seasons in the AHL, probably riding the press box down there. If this is what Benning is doing, I can't tell you how much I love it. I would do cartwheels right now if I could. We don't save enough if we buy him out this season, we get more cap relief sending him to Utica. Its time for Loui to do this team, which has been unbelievably good to him, a favor and either terminate the remainder of the contract or just retire. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, NHL97OneTimer said: I can't see them ripping up the contract without the NHL creating cap penalties against the Canucks. LE has made more than his cap hit of $6M/yr up to date based on the payout. The only option is to trade the cap hit in my mind. The player is placed on unconditional waivers. LE in all likelihood, clears. LE then either does not report, or he files a grievance. If he has agreed, he's unlikely to file - the contract terminates. If not, he is welcome to report to Utica. Edited September 23, 2020 by oldnews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat land fish Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Why pay a sweetener when we know 2021wont be a traditional season. The league claims that they will trove for 82 games but reality is an abbreviated season if there are no fans. MLB couldn’t play in Canada this year how will they make things work with 7 Canadian teams. Save assets to protect around expansion if needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Maybe we can all start tagging him in posts if he has a twitter handle asking him, as a city, please retire!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, oldnews said: exactly. realistic? no, not really. Stralman, imo is not negative cap value - but whether LE's cap savings make enough sense for a team to return a more serviceable player (and cap hit) in exchange for the cash savings - is the challenge Barry faces imo. you've shown a good example imo. you never know - it could work. but the process of searching for that magical, acceptable deal ought to give LE a realistic estimation of his market value (how negative it probably is). Florida would save 10M in real dollars, which would, in theory, be important for them. Canucks get slight cap savings and a player who can still log 20 minute nights, in a position where they will need to eat cap anyway - 3rd pairing RHD. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 is jim smoking that herb, dude no team is taking erikkson of our hands for free. what a incompetent gm 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 If he goes it was always going to be for another bad contract and there just aren’t a lot of similar dollars and length. if Benning has a dollar he spends it and not always terribly well. Better to have a salary cap space holder for when Quinn and Elias need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, EP40. said: I don’t understand why people think Rick is not a trustworthy insider anymore when he reports on bad news for the team. He literally has contacts and gets in touch with them that no others in the business do. It’s coming from Eriksson’s agent having spoken with him. Don’t get this at all. Good news = he’s great. Bad news = he’s a troll. Pick one b/c imo, he’s doing the same as he’s always done and he’s respected among all his peers for it. That’s your take on it, which is erroneous. It’s his personal conjecture that he slips into his tweets that are unnecessary. His peers are the same. A bunch of clowns looking to make a career off of speculation and conjecture, while once in a blue moon providing actual fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post D.B Cooper Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Squamfan said: is jim smoking that herb, dude no team is taking erikkson of our hands for free. what a incompetent gm Did you enjoy watching the Canucks make it to game 7 of the 2nd round this year? Without JB and his “incompetence” we wouldn’t be close to where we are. we have an awesome young team because of him. The cap situation will be fine by the time Petey and Quinn need extensions. There is no reason to sell the farm to get rid of LE right now. There is some incompetence going on, but it’s not JB..... 7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Teemu Selänne said: Florida would save 10M in real dollars, which would, in theory, be important for them. Canucks get slight cap savings and a player who can still log 20 minute nights, in a position where they will need to eat cap anyway - 3rd pairing RHD. Florida would still have to pay LE over those two years though - so don't you have to subtract LE's salary from what remains owing on Stralman's (10 of 11 million). LE is still 'owed' 1 million base salary this year, and 3 next, +1m signing bonus...so wouldn't Florida gain 5 million dollars, plus 2 x .500 in cap space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Squamfan said: is jim smoking that herb, dude no team is taking erikkson of our hands for free. what a incompetent gm As usual, you make me laugh. Edited September 23, 2020 by PhillipBlunt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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