HorvatToBaertschi Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 13 hours ago, EP40. said: Rick Dhaliwal on TSN1040: “Here’s an update on Loui Eriksson - no trade. What a shock. JP Barry is not a miracle worker, he’s not Houdini. Jim Benning has been trying to move him for 2+ years. The Canucks won’t pick up any part of the cap hit or add a sweetener.” ...this is why we may lose Tanev or/and Marky both to Free Agency. This is supposed to be competent GMing? Look I’m proud of where JB got this team to but if the league has transitioned to winning with young players on ELC’s, then having kept Eriksson this long and still not finding a suitor only means our window to win is dented and closed that much more. Playoff experience was great and all for the young guns to rally around and improve on. But how can the team get better if you don’t have available funds to be able to strengthen around them when in fact you’ll be doing the opposite actually by having quality roster casualties as a consequence? Eriksson’s cap is preventing a lot this team can do and it’s ability to improve. He wasn’t even played during the playoffs until necessary to fill-in for others so let’s not talk about him being a good role player for the bottom6...he’s not paid to and call a spade a spade, is a buyout worthy player holding this team back. So illogical that this is the stance management is taking Because giving up a 1st to get rid of Marleau's contract has worked out so well for Toronto right? Funny how that move was also considered terrible GMing. No matter what JB does, fans like yourself will find something to complain about. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Provost said: He just isn’t attractive to any team. No teams need help getting to the cap floor, and you can pick up better players on the open market for less than $2.5 million. He is overpaid for what he brings, even in just real dollars and ignoring the cap hit. That's the thing, even at leugue minimum he's not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Nuckle Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Provost said: He just isn’t attractive to any team. No teams need help getting to the cap floor, and you can pick up better players on the open market for less than $2.5 million. He is overpaid for what he brings, even in just real dollars and ignoring the cap hit. I guess I just dont understand what this means then. Luckily we have you to fill me in: Edited September 23, 2020 by Moose Nuckle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 28 minutes ago, rekker said: That's the thing, even at leugue minimum he's not worth it. I think thats a bit too far. If you look at his contribution its still pretty good n some areas. A league min + bonus deal would be useful to some teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 7 hours ago, King Heffy said: Yep, his positioning is so good he doesn't even need to break a sweat. If so the team could have dealt with Vegas easy. Teach 'em to not spend any more energy than necassary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Does not include Ferland 4.5 cap hit. Lol and people think he is a good GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Nuckle Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Squamfan said: Does not include Ferland 4.5 cap hit. Lol and people think he is a good GM This is what Linden wanted to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Moose Nuckle said: This is what Linden wanted to avoid. then why did he OK signing Loui, Baer and Sutter? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Moose Nuckle said: This is what Linden wanted to avoid. and he got stabbed in the back by Bening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Moose Nuckle said: I guess I just dont understand what this means then. Luckily we have you to fill me in: I guess you DON’T understand what that means. Go look at those few teams that are currently under the cap floor. They have very few players signed and signing their RFAs easily gets them to the floor. They don’t need to take on money to get there. Ottawa is the best example as they are the lowest cap hit right now. They only have 10 players signed. They need to spend just $18 million to reach the cap floor. Re-signing Connor Brown and Chris Tierney will cost in the $7-8 million range at a minimum. Leaving $11 million to reach the floor, and needing to sign 11 more players for a 23 man roster.... so just $1 million average. They are also missing a starting goalie and 2 top 4 D out of those 11 remaining players. Filling any of those slots even with low end guys is going to cost well over a million dollars. So reaching the cap floor is a certainty. They don’t NEED help getting to the floor, they will reach it easily without taking on bad contracts. Maybe they will take on bad contracts, but not because they need them... because they get a good sweetener. Edited September 23, 2020 by Provost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Nuckle Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, Robert Long said: then why did he OK signing Loui, Baer and Sutter? Rumour was Linden didn't want to rush and Benning did. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) Just now, Moose Nuckle said: Rumour was Linden didn't want to rush and Benning did. Simple as that. then Linden was a very weak boss. Edited September 23, 2020 by Robert Long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 38 minutes ago, Robert Long said: I think thats a bit too far. If you look at his contribution its still pretty good n some areas. A league min + bonus deal would be useful to some teams. If they don't have some youth they'd rather develop, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, Robert Long said: then why did he OK signing Loui, Baer and Sutter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Nuckle Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, Provost said: I guess you don’t know what that means. Go look at those few teams that are currently under the cap floor. They have very few players signed and signing their RFAs easily gets them to the floor. They don’t need to take on money to get there. Ottawa is the best example as they are the lowest cap hit right now. They only have 10 players signed. They need to spend just $18 million to reach the cap floor. Re-signing Connor Brown and Chris Tierney will cost in the $7-8 million range at a minimum. Leaving $11 million to reach the floor, and needing to sign 11 more players for a 23 man roster.... so just $1 million average. They are also missing a starting goalie and 2 top 4 D out of those 11 remaining players. Filling any of those slots even with low end guys is going to cost well over a million dollars. So reaching the cap floor is a certainty. They don’t NEED help getting to the floor, they will reach it easily without taking on bad contracts. Maybe they will take on bad contracts, but not because they need them... because they get a good sweetener. They arent signing all those rfa. Ottawa is promoting batherson, brown at least and they are picking high again this year so probably slot in another rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, rekker said: If they don't have some youth they'd rather develop, I suppose. you need a mix of vets and youth for proper development. Loui would help on the PK for a lot of teams.... but with all the baggage and the covid crunch it looks like we'll be eating Loui's salary this year almost certainly. Which may not be a bad thing if it keeps us from signing even more long term 30+ contracts tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Nuckle Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Robert Long said: then Linden was a very weak boss. Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Moose Nuckle said: Sure. well how else do you explain it? he was the president, but his report forced him into decisions he didn't want? for 4 years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) Only sensible thing is if there is a termination if there was guaranteed contract elsewhere. At 6 million cap hit he just isn’t worth it. If he was at 2M cap hit you could still get a couple more pieces and still have cap to spare of that 6M. Edited September 23, 2020 by Junkyard Dog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Robert Long said: well how else do you explain it? he was the president, but his report forced him into decisions he didn't want? for 4 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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