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24 minutes ago, Phil_314 said:

One man's trash, amirite?  Exhibit A for classic CDC trades.

Someone call Raymond and Ballard out of retirement for this.

 

Raanta is a good backup who is playing in a contract year just like Robin Lehner did and will have a good year to prove he can be a 1a and beat out Demko plus you get rid Sven Baertshi contract for Raanta essentially that's a steal.

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23 minutes ago, CanuckFan1123 said:

I was too busy noticing that you spelled 3 of the 5 Canucks players names wrong to actually decide if I had a real opinion on this trade. I just feel like if you spell that many names wrong it’s hard to take the proposal seriously. 

Sorry grammar nazi, go back to grading your exams professor 

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9 minutes ago, qwijibo said:

Jesus.  Just when you think things can’t get any more lopsided in Vancouver’s favour.....

So you said it’s lobsided for Vancouver while Arizona is over a barrel with needing to get out from OEL contract and if Vancouver is one of only two teams he will go to that puts the price down.

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4 hours ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said:

Arizona trades

OEL

Anti Raanta

Vancouver Trades

Troy Stetcher

Jake Virtanen

Oli juolevi 

Loui Ericksson 

Sven Baertschi 

 

OEL = BB plus a pick. 

Raanta = JV plus  Bear

 

Maybe they take Bear to help with our cap given OEL is about one million overpriced.   That’s closer to what a real trade with these two guys looks like, and still this could be viewed as lopsided in our favour, Raanta when healthy is one of the leagues better goalies, he’s a pending UFA so JV has a little more value.  OEL has more value then BB at the moment, top pairing defenseman compared to wingers and all.      No thx. 

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2 hours ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said:

So you said it’s lobsided for Vancouver while Arizona is over a barrel with needing to get out from OEL contract and if Vancouver is one of only two teams he will go to that puts the price down.

It puts the price down....it doesn't crash the economy

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THG has a pretty good summary of the situation.  New GM Bill Armstrong wants to make a splash.  OEL has a full no movement clause for the entirety of his 7 years remaining on his $8.25 Cap Hit salary.  The next 3 years is the max payable of $10.5M. 

 

Arizona got slammed by the league for illegally interviewing players eligible for the draft.  The penalty was in terms of draft picks lost was a 2nd this year and a 1st next year so they don't have a 1st, 2nd or 3rd pick this year or a 1st or 3rd next year.  Surely Armstrong would want draft picks and to shed salary. 

 

So OEL will waive but to only 2 teams, Boston or Vancouver and neither have picks or appropriate low salary players to move back.  Vancouver is of course going to want to get out from under Eriksson.

 

OEL is a LHD and if he became a Canuck, they surely wouldn't be signing RHD Tanev.  So there's that too.

 

I really think there is no deal here.

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1 minute ago, Crabcakes said:

 

THG has a pretty good summary of the situation.  New GM Bill Armstrong wants to make a splash.  OEL has a full no movement clause for the entirety of his 7 years remaining on his $8.25 Cap Hit salary.  The next 3 years is the max payable of $10.5M. 

 

Arizona got slammed by the league for illegally interviewing players eligible for the draft.  The penalty was in terms of draft picks lost was a 2nd this year and a 1st next year so they don't have a 1st, 2nd or 3rd pick this year or a 1st or 3rd next year.  Surely Armstrong would want draft picks and to shed salary. 

 

So OEL will waive but to only 2 teams, Boston or Vancouver and neither have picks or appropriate low salary players to move back.  Vancouver is of course going to want to get out from under Eriksson.

 

OEL is a LHD and if he became a Canuck, they surely wouldn't be signing RHD Tanev.  So there's that too.

 

I really think there is no deal here.

They could still re-sign Tanev if LE is included in the deal and Stecher walks.

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7 hours ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said:

Arizona trades

OEL

Anti Raanta

Vancouver Trades

Troy Stetcher

Jake Virtanen

Oli juolevi 

Loui Ericksson 

Sven Baertschi 

 

A big no to OEL for me.

 

Ekblad or Carlo for me.  
 

Boeser for Carlo or Boeser++ for Ekblad.

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I'm not sure VAN will be sending such a package to ARI, why would they? OEL wants out of ARI, and he wants to go to VAN. Their GM doesn't have a lot of leverage. And because OEL is so expensive, ARI will have to take cap back.

 

Eriksson, Sutter and Juolevi

OEL

 

ARI deals with the rest of Loui and Brandon's' contracts (2 years), but they get a top LD prospect to replace OEL for years. Whether Juolevi will be anywhere as good, is yet to be seen. I think Olli will become a very good Dman. 

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28 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

I'm not sure VAN will be sending such a package to ARI, why would they? OEL wants out of ARI, and he wants to go to VAN. Their GM doesn't have a lot of leverage. And because OEL is so expensive, ARI will have to take cap back.

 

Eriksson, Sutter and Juolevi

OEL

 

ARI deals with the rest of Loui and Brandon's' contracts (2 years), but they get a top LD prospect to replace OEL for years. Whether Juolevi will be anywhere as good, is yet to be seen. I think Olli will become a very good Dman. 

I’d take that deal.   It would fix a lot of things for us - guess it’s how high they are on OJ.   He’s almost certainly going to make it as a bottom pairing guy, he’s already a depth injury replacement at the minimum.   Pretty much ever expert review has him as a middle pairing player with upside.   Stecher would be a good comparable as a safe bet - with more size obviously.    Really comes down to how bad Armstrong wants out under this contract. 

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I really like the idea of having OEL but he has 7 years at 8.25 and is a lefty top pair dman.  We already have our lefty top pair dman.  We don't want to pay 8.25 for him when he is 34 and up.  We do not want to handcuff ourselves anymore with huge contracts to guys on the downside of their prime.

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31 minutes ago, DarkIndianRises said:

A big no to OEL for me.

 

Ekblad or Carlo for me.  
 

Boeser for Carlo or Boeser++ for Ekblad.

It really comes down to what the cost is. It’s a bit of a cap dump for ARI, could be an opportunity to get a lot better, it would give us Edlers long term replacement... and possibly not cost us much in return where as losing BB would suck - even with Ekblad coming our way I’d miss the guy.   BB has leadership qualities and is our pick ... makes it tough to consider parting with him.   He’s a huge part of our existing core.   Carlo id pass on for BB, want to see what we have in both Rafferty and Woo before we make a deal like that.   Now if we could package JV plus for Carlo or Cernak - what a coupe.   Also Cernak is doesn’t look to be available - both him and Sergachev look to be part of TB long term plans.   I wouldn’t be surprised if Point ends up getting squeezed out of Tampa to keep that engine running...

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44 minutes ago, Dixon Ward said:

I really like the idea of having OEL but he has 7 years at 8.25 and is a lefty top pair dman.  We already have our lefty top pair dman.  We don't want to pay 8.25 for him when he is 34 and up.  We do not want to handcuff ourselves anymore with huge contracts to guys on the downside of their prime.

Edler has 1 year left and is 34. He might get an extension of a couple of years, maybe around $5. Re-sign Fantenberg cheap, he was good in the playoffs. Give Rafferty his shot, and he's cheap. Hughes is a top pairing Dman and can play the right side, upside, downside, inside, outside, he's all over the place. I think a OEL - Hughes top pairing would be great.  If Tanev agrees to $4.5 or under $5, he and Edler would form a great 2nd pairing. Assuming Juolevi and ?? are gone.

 

Ekman-Larsson ($8.25) - Hughes ($10)

Edler ($5-6) - Tanev - $4.5-5)

Fantenberg ($1.5) - Rafferty (under $1)

Benn ($2)

Chatfield (under $1)

 

Seems doable to me

 

 

 

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