Popular Post Odjick the Warrior Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) Arizona trades OEL Anti Raanta Vancouver Trades Troy Stetcher Jake Virtanen Oli juolevi Loui Ericksson Sven Baertschi *2020 3rd Round pick *2021 3rd round pick Sorry I undervalued Raanta the first time but 2 3rds should even things out Edited October 6, 2020 by IjustNEEDaTROYgamble 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phil_314 Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) One man's trash, amirite? Exhibit A for classic CDC trades. Someone call Raymond and Ballard out of retirement for this. Edited October 2, 2020 by Phil_314 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 maybe if u throw markstrom in there aswell LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, Phil_314 said: One man's trash, amirite? Exhibit A for classic CDC trades. Someone call Raymond and Ballard out of retirement for this. Raanta is a good backup who is playing in a contract year just like Robin Lehner did and will have a good year to prove he can be a 1a and beat out Demko plus you get rid Sven Baertshi contract for Raanta essentially that's a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckFan1123 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I was too busy noticing that you spelled 3 of the 5 Canucks players names wrong to actually decide if I had a real opinion on this trade. I just feel like if you spell that many names wrong it’s hard to take the proposal seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Jesus. Just when you think things can’t get any more lopsided in Vancouver’s favour..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, CanuckFan1123 said: I was too busy noticing that you spelled 3 of the 5 Canucks players names wrong to actually decide if I had a real opinion on this trade. I just feel like if you spell that many names wrong it’s hard to take the proposal seriously. Sorry grammar nazi, go back to grading your exams professor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Jesus. Just when you think things can’t get any more lopsided in Vancouver’s favour..... So you said it’s lobsided for Vancouver while Arizona is over a barrel with needing to get out from OEL contract and if Vancouver is one of only two teams he will go to that puts the price down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 4 hours ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said: Arizona trades OEL Anti Raanta Vancouver Trades Troy Stetcher Jake Virtanen Oli juolevi Loui Ericksson Sven Baertschi OEL = BB plus a pick. Raanta = JV plus Bear Maybe they take Bear to help with our cap given OEL is about one million overpriced. That’s closer to what a real trade with these two guys looks like, and still this could be viewed as lopsided in our favour, Raanta when healthy is one of the leagues better goalies, he’s a pending UFA so JV has a little more value. OEL has more value then BB at the moment, top pairing defenseman compared to wingers and all. No thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 hours ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said: So you said it’s lobsided for Vancouver while Arizona is over a barrel with needing to get out from OEL contract and if Vancouver is one of only two teams he will go to that puts the price down. It puts the price down....it doesn't crash the economy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Can I make a request that proposals do not include the word "blockbuster"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 What, we don't get Kessel and negotiating rights to Hall as well? Then forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 THG has a pretty good summary of the situation. New GM Bill Armstrong wants to make a splash. OEL has a full no movement clause for the entirety of his 7 years remaining on his $8.25 Cap Hit salary. The next 3 years is the max payable of $10.5M. Arizona got slammed by the league for illegally interviewing players eligible for the draft. The penalty was in terms of draft picks lost was a 2nd this year and a 1st next year so they don't have a 1st, 2nd or 3rd pick this year or a 1st or 3rd next year. Surely Armstrong would want draft picks and to shed salary. So OEL will waive but to only 2 teams, Boston or Vancouver and neither have picks or appropriate low salary players to move back. Vancouver is of course going to want to get out from under Eriksson. OEL is a LHD and if he became a Canuck, they surely wouldn't be signing RHD Tanev. So there's that too. I really think there is no deal here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Crabcakes said: THG has a pretty good summary of the situation. New GM Bill Armstrong wants to make a splash. OEL has a full no movement clause for the entirety of his 7 years remaining on his $8.25 Cap Hit salary. The next 3 years is the max payable of $10.5M. Arizona got slammed by the league for illegally interviewing players eligible for the draft. The penalty was in terms of draft picks lost was a 2nd this year and a 1st next year so they don't have a 1st, 2nd or 3rd pick this year or a 1st or 3rd next year. Surely Armstrong would want draft picks and to shed salary. So OEL will waive but to only 2 teams, Boston or Vancouver and neither have picks or appropriate low salary players to move back. Vancouver is of course going to want to get out from under Eriksson. OEL is a LHD and if he became a Canuck, they surely wouldn't be signing RHD Tanev. So there's that too. I really think there is no deal here. They could still re-sign Tanev if LE is included in the deal and Stecher walks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, IjustNEEDaTROYgamble said: Arizona trades OEL Anti Raanta Vancouver Trades Troy Stetcher Jake Virtanen Oli juolevi Loui Ericksson Sven Baertschi A big no to OEL for me. Ekblad or Carlo for me. Boeser for Carlo or Boeser++ for Ekblad. Edited October 2, 2020 by DarkIndianRises 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I'm not sure VAN will be sending such a package to ARI, why would they? OEL wants out of ARI, and he wants to go to VAN. Their GM doesn't have a lot of leverage. And because OEL is so expensive, ARI will have to take cap back. Eriksson, Sutter and Juolevi OEL ARI deals with the rest of Loui and Brandon's' contracts (2 years), but they get a top LD prospect to replace OEL for years. Whether Juolevi will be anywhere as good, is yet to be seen. I think Olli will become a very good Dman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I'm not sure VAN will be sending such a package to ARI, why would they? OEL wants out of ARI, and he wants to go to VAN. Their GM doesn't have a lot of leverage. And because OEL is so expensive, ARI will have to take cap back. Eriksson, Sutter and Juolevi OEL ARI deals with the rest of Loui and Brandon's' contracts (2 years), but they get a top LD prospect to replace OEL for years. Whether Juolevi will be anywhere as good, is yet to be seen. I think Olli will become a very good Dman. I’d take that deal. It would fix a lot of things for us - guess it’s how high they are on OJ. He’s almost certainly going to make it as a bottom pairing guy, he’s already a depth injury replacement at the minimum. Pretty much ever expert review has him as a middle pairing player with upside. Stecher would be a good comparable as a safe bet - with more size obviously. Really comes down to how bad Armstrong wants out under this contract. Edited October 2, 2020 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I really like the idea of having OEL but he has 7 years at 8.25 and is a lefty top pair dman. We already have our lefty top pair dman. We don't want to pay 8.25 for him when he is 34 and up. We do not want to handcuff ourselves anymore with huge contracts to guys on the downside of their prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 31 minutes ago, DarkIndianRises said: A big no to OEL for me. Ekblad or Carlo for me. Boeser for Carlo or Boeser++ for Ekblad. It really comes down to what the cost is. It’s a bit of a cap dump for ARI, could be an opportunity to get a lot better, it would give us Edlers long term replacement... and possibly not cost us much in return where as losing BB would suck - even with Ekblad coming our way I’d miss the guy. BB has leadership qualities and is our pick ... makes it tough to consider parting with him. He’s a huge part of our existing core. Carlo id pass on for BB, want to see what we have in both Rafferty and Woo before we make a deal like that. Now if we could package JV plus for Carlo or Cernak - what a coupe. Also Cernak is doesn’t look to be available - both him and Sergachev look to be part of TB long term plans. I wouldn’t be surprised if Point ends up getting squeezed out of Tampa to keep that engine running... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 44 minutes ago, Dixon Ward said: I really like the idea of having OEL but he has 7 years at 8.25 and is a lefty top pair dman. We already have our lefty top pair dman. We don't want to pay 8.25 for him when he is 34 and up. We do not want to handcuff ourselves anymore with huge contracts to guys on the downside of their prime. Edler has 1 year left and is 34. He might get an extension of a couple of years, maybe around $5. Re-sign Fantenberg cheap, he was good in the playoffs. Give Rafferty his shot, and he's cheap. Hughes is a top pairing Dman and can play the right side, upside, downside, inside, outside, he's all over the place. I think a OEL - Hughes top pairing would be great. If Tanev agrees to $4.5 or under $5, he and Edler would form a great 2nd pairing. Assuming Juolevi and ?? are gone. Ekman-Larsson ($8.25) - Hughes ($10) Edler ($5-6) - Tanev - $4.5-5) Fantenberg ($1.5) - Rafferty (under $1) Benn ($2) Chatfield (under $1) Seems doable to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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