Provost Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I said a long while back that this is the most important offseason for Benning. If he can exit the bad deals he signed and that lets us re-sign our own players or other players, he deserves a lot of credit. If those bad contracts end up costing a bunch of good players and mean we step back for two years until the money clears... he should be fired. The clock is running, he still has time to pull something out his rear, but if we start training camp with all of Eriksson, Sutter, Baertschi, Roussel, Ferland and Beagle on the payroll (instead of a top 6 winger, two top 4D’s, and two good goalies).... that is a big condemnation of his work so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Eriksson needs to take page out of Niskanen's books. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMelvin Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Alain Vigneault said: I'm okay with this. We already have Boeser who can't skate for his life, I don't see why we need Toffoli taking up 5M to do the same thing. I like Toffoli but we shouldn't be comitting money and term to him with Pettersson and Hughes not signed. IMO Toffoli is the better passer...the guy can thread a needle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick29willkillyou Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Oh the irony if TT goes back to LA and Madden somehow makes it as their 3rd line C with TT on his wing where he puts up career #s. It would be quite fitting for the Nucks although doubt it will actually happen since Madden needs some time lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 If they set aside some rubles for return of The Tree..all is forgiven! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Vancouver just needs to clear out the contracts in 2 years. Unfortunately I think this means Vancouver will take a step back until they clear those contacts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Boy have the bad contracts come back to bite us (with a vengeance). At this point you gotta think they'll exercise a buyout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogy Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Perfect! More cap space for upgrading D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gaudette Celly Posted October 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, Squamfan said: Canucks make it to the playoffs, to game 7 from reaching the final 4, with a 20 and 21 year old leading the way, meanwhile free agents and a top-pairing defenceman are wanting to come to Vancouver, and that's the best the HFBoards crew can come up with? 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: Which of: Ferland, Virtanen, Roussel, Eriksson, Leivo, Sutter, Gaudette, Motte, Lind, Hoglander, MacEwen, exc. Would u take over those guys (when PIT had them in their prime) to be in a top 6. Those are the current options. Maybe you'd quibble with Virtanen & Sheary, if he's even back. I doubt we get Tanev done unless he really wants to leave $$$ on the table. Other teams will offer him more than what makes sense for us. You're forgetting Miller, Toffoli, Pearson, etc, but I'll digress from that. Some of those players you mentioned have actually played well for us. Gaudette could do well. Lind or Hoglander might prove to be a solid replacement for all we know. Pittsburgh went through a lot of players that did well and didn't do well either (ie. Galchenyuk). It's going to happen. Not everyone's going to pan out. You have to kind of throw things and see what sticks, which is what causes the carousel. So honestly, don't think of the carousel as a bad thing as it's not necessarily. Evidently, we've found right fits so it's just a matter of time for another fit to come along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, CanuckFan1123 said: Why would you be disappointed about keeping Boeser over Toffoli? Boeser is several years younger, knows how to score, and already has more 50 point seasons than Toffoli. Boeser is way more valuable. I’ll never understand the hate Boeser gets around here. 3 minutes ago, Millerdraft said: I don’t hate Boeser at all. Period. Full stop. I also do not hate Boeser. Looking at the situation from a "what can the Canucks trade, what can they get for that asset, and how does it help the team?" perspective, Boeser is a very good trade chip. This does not mean that I hate him, nor do I think he is trash. It does not mean that I do not value his contributions, however, if the Canucks wanted to do something to shore up the defense (for example) then trading Boeser for a young(ish) defenseman is one way to achieve that goal. Chances are they could also get a break on some cap space. Also, as lots of folks keep going on about, there's Podkolzin and Hoglander who are going to show up and fill those empty spaces...... regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 45 minutes ago, Squamfan said: they also forgot ass ferland 4.5 cap hit 3.5 cap hit for ferland but most likely coming off the books if he goes on LTIR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, captainhorvat said: 3.5 cap hit for ferland but most likely coming off the books if he goes on LTIR He wants to come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Toffoli is a foundational player the Canucks can use rather than Sutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, captainhorvat said: 3.5 cap hit for ferland but most likely coming off the books if he goes on LTIR Just now, Squamfan said: He wants to come back Kick his ankles.... regards, G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVasili Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I think anyone who refuses to acknowledge that the flat cap was an unexpected development is not exactly being genuine in their criticism of Benning (let along the Luongo penalty). The fact of the matter is Vancouver has set themselves up to be a desirable destination and I imagine Benning is playing hardball on some of these contracts, as he very well should at this point. Just because a player goes to free agency doesn't mean they will find a better offer elsewhere. There will be high quality players wanting to come here. Not worried about it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, Nucksfollower1983 said: I blame LE. If he had lived up to his contract we would never have needed TT to begin with. I blame the Sedins. If they hadn't jelled so well with LE on Sweden's national team, Benning never would have signed him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsbutcher Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I think JB might have something else up his sleeve. Im not so sure that Marky and Tanev will be staying put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey God Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 If Toff is hitting free agency and the end result is we're getting OEL and keeping Jake instead ... I think this is a misstep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said: Not upset, Toffoli is a pretty good forward, but I'd rather the Canucks solidify the D and goaltending. Yup, i would like to see Tanev signed... a cheaper replacement 1B 2 yr contract to replace Marky.. and let Toffee walk... Canucks have enough forward to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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