Moose Nuckle Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Provost said: If we miss out on Tanev too, it will be a tough road to replace the right side. For me, it is who you think you can win with. Qualify Virtanen and don't qualify Stecher... both local kids, one has had a poor work ethic for years and the other one would chew through a wall to win. Both have scary arb cases. I reverse who I qualify out of those two, or more likely I trade Virtanen before it comes to that. This is a function of bad cap management, I am sure Stecher signs if you give him some term with a 3 year, $2.5 million AAV deal. If you can't afford that, then it is the fault of the wasted money everywhere else. Ya, and Megna was better than the Sedins combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 to bad we couldn't trade him for a 6th or 7th but if benning tried and nobody wanted him to bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Moose Nuckle said: Ya, and Megna was better than the Sedins combined. Have you ever provided any actual content in your posts, or is it just trolling idiotic remarks? PS. That was a rhetorical question,we all know the answer to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 He's a good quality teammate that will be missed in the locker room, I like him as a bottom pairing and it'll be sad if he can't get a deal gone with Vancouver. He has value unlike the overpriced 4th liners that are eating up all the cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 He gave 100%, but I'm happy there will be changes to the D 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Nuckle Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Provost said: Have you ever provided any actual content in your posts, or is it just trolling idiotic remarks? PS. That was a rhetorical question,we all know the answer to it. Just doing my job calling out terrible insights and using their exact same logic against them. You just don't realize I'm saying exactly what you said back to you. I have seen only hate for certain players come from you. I guess that's considered "actual content". Edited October 7, 2020 by Moose Nuckle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 The biggest issue is the flat cap. If we weren't dealing with the possibility of arbitration, I'm pretty sure we could have found another team to take him. In the NHL for the next 2 years, your 3rd pairing D are probably capped around 1 - 1.5 million, and we can sign someone easily in that range, or give guys like Chatfield and OJ a chance to balance our defensive pairings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Moose Nuckle said: Just doing my job calling out terrible insights and using their exact same logic against them. You just don't realize I'm saying exactly what you said back to you. Anyone who uses the Sedins as a comparison to Virtanen in terms of work ethic doesn't warrant taking seriously... even remotely. Edited October 7, 2020 by Provost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Nuckle Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, Provost said: Anyone who uses the Sedins as a comparison to Virtanen doesn't warrant taking seriously even remotely. You compared a defenseman to a forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 48 minutes ago, grandmaster said: He is a good 7th defenceman at no more than 1M. You should try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, Moose Nuckle said: You compared a defenseman to a forward. OK, sorry... I gave you too much credit. Your point is even dumber now. Comparing work ethic and will to win between players can't happen if they play different positions. Got it. "Great point"... I sure feel "called out" for my bad take on that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsbutcher Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Pretty sure they will try to sign Stetch in a few days as a UFA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownky Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 36 minutes ago, CanuckGAME said: Don't quote that dumb **** as if he knows anything. Why would the Canucks trade Stecher? We needed him. This guys flapping his lips without seeing the end result either. For all we know Benning is just going to offer him a lower salary, but numwits like this guy in the media do nothing but criticize. I should put "theFerrariGuy" in my twitter handle despite the fact I've never owned nor repaired a Ferrari, and then rave about its' reliability and cheap cost of ownership. It would be about the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screw Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Man... the cap sucks sometimes. Tony is a heart and soul player. I hope.JB can find a way to bring him home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) Word from Dhaliwal who spoke with his camp is that there was no attempt to renegotiate his deal for lower. He wasn't given an offer at all even at a lower numbers. If that is true, itis ridiculous, he a a player that you could do well by offering a little term for a reduced cap hit. Edited October 7, 2020 by Provost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) Well this makes me sad. Don't know what to say. Stecher does play his heart out. But on the other hand, him being a #4, #5 guy for us on a 3mil plus contract, with his size. Doesn't seem like a good fit. Edited October 7, 2020 by Drakrami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Nuckle Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Provost said: OK, sorry... I gave you too much credit. Your point is even dumber now. Comparing work ethic and will to win between players can't happen if they play different positions. Got it. "Great point"... I sure feel "called out" for my bad take on that. You think Stecher is better than Virtanen. Megna thought he was better than the Sedins. You are as intelligent as Megna. Congrats. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Screw said: Man... the cap sucks sometimes. Only sucks when there's multopmr bottom 6 players or bottom pairing defenseman getting paid between $3M-$6M, which Vancouver has in spades. Guys like Stetcher and Toffoli are casualties of this. And perhaps Tanev and Markstrom, as well. Edited October 7, 2020 by Monty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 The guy plays hard, and he’ll find a home somewhere for sure. I’m okay with this (in)action though. We’ve got talent coming up on defense, and we may still land a Coyote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 38 minutes ago, apollo said: Damn that makes me sad... I'm very hopeful they still get a deal done. One or two year at ~1.5mill perhaps? There are probably hundreds of kids who never made it who have similar photos. It does suck that Troy might not be coming back though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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