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I just noticed

Holtby will be paid $5.7M for next season! :shock:

$5.7M for a backup Goalie! :picard: :picard:  (when 1 facepalm isn't enough)

 

SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT q2.svg AAV q2.svg P. BONUSES q2.svg S. BONUSES q2.svg BASE SALARY q2.svg TOTAL SALARY q2.svg MINORS SALARY q2.svg
2020-21 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $500,000 $2,400,000 $2,900,000 $2,900,000
2021-22 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $0 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 $5,700,000
TOTAL   $8,600,000 $8,600,000 $0 $500,000 $8,100,000 $8,600,000 $8,600,000
CLAUSE DETAILS: Player submits a 4 team no trade list.
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8 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said:

I just noticed

Holtby will be paid $5.7M for next season! :shock:

$5.7M for a backup Goalie! :picard: :picard:  (when 1 facepalm isn't enough)

 

SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT q2.svg AAV q2.svg P. BONUSES q2.svg S. BONUSES q2.svg BASE SALARY q2.svg TOTAL SALARY q2.svg MINORS SALARY q2.svg
2020-21 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $500,000 $2,400,000 $2,900,000 $2,900,000
2021-22 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $0 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 $5,700,000
TOTAL   $8,600,000 $8,600,000 $0 $500,000 $8,100,000 $8,600,000 $8,600,000
CLAUSE DETAILS: Player submits a 4 team no trade list.

You also realize that that was done intentionally to make him less attractive in the ED, correct?

 

Also doesn't hurt Benning's owner by keeping the actual cash low, in the midst of a pandemic...

 

But dim Jim.. am I right? :rolleyes:

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3 minutes ago, gurn said:

did you also notice that he is paid $2.9M this year?

Then how when you add this years salary and next years salary, then divide by two, you get the cap hit of $4.3 per year for 2 years?

8.6 divided by 2 = 4.3

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13 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said:

I just noticed

Holtby will be paid $5.7M for next season! :shock:

$5.7M for a backup Goalie! :picard: :picard:  (when 1 facepalm isn't enough)

 

SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT q2.svg AAV q2.svg P. BONUSES q2.svg S. BONUSES q2.svg BASE SALARY q2.svg TOTAL SALARY q2.svg MINORS SALARY q2.svg
2020-21 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $500,000 $2,400,000 $2,900,000 $2,900,000
2021-22 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $0 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 $5,700,000
TOTAL   $8,600,000 $8,600,000 $0 $500,000 $8,100,000 $8,600,000 $8,600,000
CLAUSE DETAILS: Player submits a 4 team no trade list.

2019-2020: SV 0.897

2020-2021: SV 0.893

 

Jim signed a hell of a goalie, no doubt about it. Is Holtby overpaid? No, not in Jim's world. Many fans thought that Clarke can fix Holtby's game once the canucks announced this signing. Obviously he couldn't.

Great signing, like lots of others.

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1 minute ago, Wolfgang Durst said:

Many fans thought that Clarke can fix Holtby's game once the canucks announced this signing. Obviously he couldn't.

Bit early to say he couldn't fix Holtby.

Minimal practice time, condensed schedule.

Clarke didn't fix Markstrom in 26  team games, why expect insta cure with Holtby?

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59 minutes ago, gurn said:

Bit early to say he couldn't fix Holtby.

Minimal practice time, condensed schedule.

Clarke didn't fix Markstrom in 26  team games, why expect insta cure with Holtby?

Because in Canuck-land, 7 years is a long rebuild, 11 games with almost no practice time is a large sample size and enough time to completely revamp a vet goalies game etc, etc...

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2 hours ago, Mackcanuck said:

I just noticed

Holtby will be paid $5.7M for next season! :shock:

$5.7M for a backup Goalie! :picard: :picard:  (when 1 facepalm isn't enough)

 

SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT q2.svg AAV q2.svg P. BONUSES q2.svg S. BONUSES q2.svg BASE SALARY q2.svg TOTAL SALARY q2.svg MINORS SALARY q2.svg
2020-21 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $500,000 $2,400,000 $2,900,000 $2,900,000
2021-22 M-NTC $4,300,000 $4,300,000 $0 $0 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 $5,700,000
TOTAL   $8,600,000 $8,600,000 $0 $500,000 $8,100,000 $8,600,000 $8,600,000
CLAUSE DETAILS: Player submits a 4 team no trade list.

He can be bought out this summer with a cap hit of only $500,000 for 2021. And Benning can go find a backup for $800k to sign for the expansion draft.  But thanks for your extensive research...

 

Braden Holtby Buyout Details

Cost Calculations
BUYOUT DATE BASE SALARY REMAINING S.BONUS REMAINING YEARS REMAINING BUYOUT LENGTH AGE BUYOUT RATIO TOTAL COST TOTAL SAVINGS ANNUAL COST
Jun 15, 2021 $5,700,000 $0 1 2 31 2/3 $3,800,000 $1,900,000 $1,900,000
Cap Hit Calculations
SEASON INITIAL BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT SIGNING BONUS BUYOUT COST POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS SAVINGS CAP HIT (VANVAN)
2021-22 $5,700,000 $4,300,000 $0 $1,900,000 $1,900,000 $3,800,000 $500,000
2022-23 $0 $0 $0 $1,900,000 $1,900,000 -$1,900,000 $1,900,000
TOTAL $5,700,000 $4,300,000 $0 $3,800,000 $3,800,000 $1,900,000 $2,400,000

 

 

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2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

But thanks for your extensive research...

Thanks for your response

I had no idea how complicated contract buyouts were

Maybe Cap friendly isn't so friendly

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5 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

He can be bought out this summer with a cap hit of only $500,000 for 2021. And Benning can go find a backup for $800k to sign for the expansion draft.  But thanks for your extensive research...

 

Braden Holtby Buyout Details

Cost Calculations
BUYOUT DATE BASE SALARY REMAINING S.BONUS REMAINING YEARS REMAINING BUYOUT LENGTH AGE BUYOUT RATIO TOTAL COST TOTAL SAVINGS ANNUAL COST
Jun 15, 2021 $5,700,000 $0 1 2 31 2/3 $3,800,000 $1,900,000 $1,900,000
Cap Hit Calculations
SEASON INITIAL BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT SIGNING BONUS BUYOUT COST POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS SAVINGS CAP HIT (VANVAN)
2021-22 $5,700,000 $4,300,000 $0 $1,900,000 $1,900,000 $3,800,000 $500,000
2022-23 $0 $0 $0 $1,900,000 $1,900,000 -$1,900,000 $1,900,000
TOTAL $5,700,000 $4,300,000 $0 $3,800,000 $3,800,000 $1,900,000 $2,400,000

 

 

I don't understand how the buyout is so low but that does make me feel better about the contract.

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https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/indigenous-artist-designs-another-mask-for-goalie-after-vancouver-canucks-controversy-1.5343311

 

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another new mask for Holtby.

almost as nice as the Swedish designed one he couldn’t use.

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On 3/5/2021 at 2:26 AM, Wolfgang Durst said:

2019-2020: SV 0.897

2020-2021: SV 0.893

 

Jim signed a hell of a goalie, no doubt about it. Is Holtby overpaid? No, not in Jim's world. Many fans thought that Clarke can fix Holtby's game once the canucks announced this signing. Obviously he couldn't.

Great signing, like lots of others.

Lol, typical Canucks fan, sigh

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Holtby was never going to be a good goalie for us, it was a recipe for disaster. 2-3 seasons off some decent hockey, he was sheltered in Washington and even then was pretty average the last 2 years. Now he's older, coming into a team which leaks A-grade chances, it was never going to be pretty.

 

JB probably knew this too, we could have signed a better goaltender, sure. He's gotten Holtby in for 2 reasons:

1) Expansion draft eligible (and hopefully picked as a 3rd goalie is a juicy MAF-like target).

2) Cup winner, playoff warrior, he can mentor Demko better than anyone about how to play long regular seasons and perform in the playoffs

 

We can see on-ice how bad he is and how bad is value is, but we won't know of how important he'll have been to Demko's development until the next deep Demko playoff run. Demko had Marky to mentor him up until now and is not ready to be mentor-free just yet, but he's looking like he's turning that corner this season. Even if we have Holtby next season, he'll provide a useful mentor to sit on the bench and help Demko out in tough situations. Is that worth the money he's getting paid? Absolutely. Is it worth his cap hit? That's a tricky one but I think yes - he's an investment for Demko's on-ice performance.

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