2021 NHL Entry Draft

[R3aL]

34 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said:

I know 90% of you have seen these already, but for those that haven't...  they are a good watch.  

 

Weird seeing linden and bracket now lol. This was good hope they release soemthing like this for this years too but probably not

[YearoftheNuck]

2 hours ago, Isam said:

Guenther is a better forward than what people on here are giving him credit for. His overall body of work has established that. Problem is recency bias and one tourney might devalue him and raise up someone like cuelmans who had a great u18 which is allowing alot of people to ignore alot of problems he has had with brooks in the ajhl.

I agree. Recency bias is truly a powerful factor in decision making. These two write ups about him from http://www.mynhldraft.com/2021-nhl-draft/player-profiles/Dylan-Guenther really make me believe that he’s a far more well rounded player than just the goal scorer that myself and some others have been pegging him as:

Dylan Guenther's Player Profile

Steve Kournianos - The Draft Analyst - May 24th: "He may look wiry, but this dual-threat from the flank is an excellent penalty killer who also plays with snarl."

Sam Cosentino - Sportsnet - May 12th: "Thinks the game at a high level and is constantly utilizing all resources to improve his game. While offence is what jumps out, the proficiency in his game extends the length of the ice."

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, R3aL said:

Weird seeing linden and bracket now lol. This was good hope they release soemthing like this for this years too but probably not

Yeah it is weird seeing them...  but even though those two guys were important, Benning is still the one that runs the show.  I'm sure that some of the newer guys like Ryan Biech for example will have a louder voice and new scouts will step up.  

 

They will probably release something again.  This is the one from last year. 

 

 

[Herberts Vasiljevs]

5 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said:

Yeah it is weird seeing them...  but even though those two guys were important, Benning is still the one that runs the show.  I'm sure that some of the newer guys like Ryan Biech for example will have a louder voice and new scouts will step up.  

 

They will probably release something again.  This is the one from last year. 

 

 

I've always enjoyed these. The 2017 draft one is legendary.

Edited June 6, 2021 by Herberts Vasiljevs

[R3aL]

4 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said:

Yeah it is weird seeing them...  but even though those two guys were important, Benning is still the one that runs the show.  I'm sure that some of the newer guys like Ryan Biech for example will have a louder voice and new scouts will step up.  

 

They will probably release something again.  This is the one from last year. 

 

 

I actually never saw last years thanks. Wasn’t that into the draft. And Biech will be good to see in thst capacity for sure thanks

[R3aL]

Going to take a stab at a mock draft for fun to look back on draft day and see how I did!

 

1. BUF - POWER

 

Eating big minutes playing with men and nhlers at his age this will probably cement him in at 1 on most draft boards. They will probably trade Eichel and Reinhart for packages that include top 6 forwards so having Dahlin and Power on the back end is pretty lucky.

 

2. SEA - BENIERS

 

Could see them playing it safe and taking the highest floor C available. Nice way to start off the franchise by making the first selection your potential future captain as well.

 

3.  ANA - GUENTHER

 

Seems like a ducks pick. And would look great flanking Zegras.

 

4. NJD - EKLUND

 

Lots of people have them taking Hughes but I think Eklund  will be their top ranked forward and bpa when they go up seeing as they’ve scouted him heavy.

 

5. CLB - EDVINSSON

 

I feel like they are going to take a European player. Could see them trading down and taking Raty as well. 

 

6. DET - WALLSTEDT / COSSA

 

They need a stud goalie, think they go with Wallstedt. Stud goalies have been picked before 6 before. Just not common. But this draft is far from usual anyways. Could also see them trading down 1-3 spots as long as they pick before Ottawa.

 

7. SJS - JOHNSON

 

I think there are going to really like his game  and have him ranked above Clarke and Hughes. Could also see them going with McTavish.

 

8. LAK - HUGHES / CLARKE

 

They have such a loaded prospect cupboard and especially at forward. Whoever they have ranked higher between Hughes and Clarke they take. Let’s say they have Hughes rates over Clarke. 

 

9. VAN - CLARKE

 

This is my dream draft day outcome, Clarke slips to us at 9 just like Hughes slipped to us. PLEASE 

 

10. OTT - COSSA / WALLSTEDT

 

Think they take whatever goalie of these two Detroit doesn’t take.

 

11. CHI - MCTAVISH

 

Totally a Chicago pick. And with Toews career ending the way it is a two way pivot with some snarl is exactly what they need.

 

12. CGY - LUCIUS

 

Saw enough, see the upside and aren’t worried about the injury.

 

13. PHI - SILLINGER

 

Seems like a PHILLY pick to me. 

 

14. DAL - RATY

 

Tempted to take Lysell but they roll they go with Raty. With their scouts seeing what he can become.

 

15. NYR - SVECHKOV

 

again tempted by Lysell but they take Svechkov having a good experience with Russians and loving the way he plays the game and what he projects to be he is their BPA.

 

Honourable mentions:

 

LAMBOS

LYSELL

 

Hard to predict / project this years draft. Expecting surprises, perceived reaches as rankings are all over the place.

 

Looking forward and hope we walk away all feeling happy!

[Nurnge]

BPA every team see's it differently and so does every scout . they will each values things differently . No team has ever said after the Draft that they thought somebody they pasted up was better at the time . They will always say they valued them as equal or very close to it with other factors . Nashville brings along Defensemen extremely well so when they look at a " D" man they probably think his trade value will be higher than many other teams  would . Many GM's appear to draft from the same league year after year near the top end of the draft . And don't get me started on " Wingspan " hahahaha although  height , weight . birthdate [ Closer to 17 or 19 at time of the draft ] these things all play a small part in each teams BPA . Positioning would come into it if other things are equal [ No team is going to draft a left winger 5 years in a row under normal circumstances ] . With Jake's ongoing off ice dealings my next statement might sound off But Character seems to be very high on there determination of BPA . It is usually one of the first things stated when they take top end talent . 

[Herberts Vasiljevs]

I will cry tears of joy if Clarke slips to us.

[Herberts Vasiljevs]

Watching the World's I can totally see why Power is #1 on most boards. I'm 50/50 on Craig Button (pretty annoying dude), but I liked his assessment on Power. He doesn't have Hedman's skill or Pronger's nastiness, but he controls the game like them. I'd say that's fair.

[Isam]

1 hour ago, Alflives said:

Not the same as when the league produced guys like Trevor.  Fewer farm boys.  

Weak argument alf especially when there some killers like bedard, geekie, and yager in the league

[DeNiro]

2 minutes ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said:

Watching the World's I can totally see why Power is #1 on most boards. I'm 50/50 on Craig Button (pretty annoying dude), but I liked his assessment on Power. He doesn't have Hedman's skill or Pronger's nastiness, but he controls the game like them. I'd say that's fair.

Yea I could see him being just good at everything but not elite at one thing.

 

Might be similar to Erik Johnson going 1st overall in 2006. Not a game changing type defenseman but one that can help you win.

 

That being said I have a feeling he won’t end up being the best defenseman in the draft. Maybe not even the second best.

[Stierlitz]

Nice list of 2021 draft picks by team - Detroit has 12, Montreal 11, Buffalo 10. Vancouver 8. Also shows probability of expected NHL stars and NHL players from those picks

 

 

[JM_]

3 hours ago, Isam said:

Guenther is a better forward then what people on here are giving him credit for. His overall body of work has established that. Problem is recency bias and one tourney might devalue him and raise up someone like cuelmans who had a great u18 which is allowing alot of people to ignore alot of problems he has had with brooks in the ajhl.

its not so much that, as decently skilled guys dominating in the WHL that then can't translate to the NHL, and I'd put Hayton in that category for now. It worries me a bit going off WHL performance this year in particular like Arizona did with Hayton, and they reached for him too. 

 

I'm not pre-claiming the kid is a bust, just that I'd rather look at a body of work from the SHL e.g. on such an important pick. Its more about the ability to assess players and what league they've been in this year. 

[JM_]

3 hours ago, AK_19 said:

 

 

He's definitely not the same caliber of player. Guenther literally has double the PPG pace as Virtanen and Hayton at the same age and league while being defensively sound. Height wise they are also the same. I'm still shocked how highly ranked Virtanen was his draft year based on his numbers (not blaming Benning, everyone but Button basically had him a top 10 pick).

I'm quite high on Guenther, the only issue I have is we are probably more stacked at RW than any other position. However, we should be drafting BPA first round so it shouldn't matter. Pick up the RHD and centres in the later rounds. 

not that I'd want to, but if he's as good as you think he'd make it easier to trade a guy like Boeser, which may have to happen for cap reasons down the road. 

 

I just don't know if we can look at WHL experience in the same way as SHL for top prospects. Wouldn't a good performance in the SHL be a better indicator of the ability to translate to the NHL? We can also put the pick into Abbotsford right away, vs. needing to either rush the pick of leave them in the WHL where they won't really get better. 

 

 

[Nicklas Bo Hunter]

Honestly if the only option of the top 9 left is evidinsson I say just take a big swing on raty

[S N Y P E R S 7]

Zach Dean has definitely caught my eye with his skating. So smooth and naturally speedy, all he needs to do is fine tune his offensive thought process. Just the little things. I feel like his mind is a step behind his actual footspeed. But if he's able to put the whole package together, he could be one of the most gifted skaters in this draft...

 

Very, very fast.

[S N Y P E R S 7]

20 hours ago, R3aL said:

Stankoven on a goal streak / heater would be lots of fun!

 

well I think you nailed ehlers tbh he would have been a great pick for us.

 

i remember I was huge on Nick Ritchie and Nylander wasn’t so keen on ehlers but I was wrong.

 

 

ya Holtby would just be a dream it seems now. Lind seems to be the most desirable. Be nice if we could protect him. to Try and force them taking someone with salary implications .
 

Well I look forward to seeing how stankoven turns out and where he goes in the draft! Thanks for sharing mate 

 

Honestly, in a perfect world, Pearson would be exposed. He would be another guy the Kraken have their eyes on, for sure. However, I believe there's something in his contract that stated he wouldn't be exposed to Seattle. 

[Nucker 67]

6 minutes ago, S N Y P E R S 7 said:

 

Honestly, in a perfect world, Pearson would be exposed. He would be another guy the Kraken have their eyes on, for sure. However, I believe there's something in his contract that stated he wouldn't be exposed to Seattle. 

They re-signed Pearson strictly for Bo. I don't get it, but whatever makes the captain happy.  

[HockeyHarry]

2nd Round Right Dman maybe?

I seen Morrow listed as late 1round but ive seen other lists where hes not listed in the top 32. So maybe he’s close to Canucks 2nd pick at 41.

im sure theres probably better options at the 41 spot but he is a much needed Rt Dman.

[flickyoursedin]

6 minutes ago, HockeyHarry said:

2nd Round Right Dman maybe?

I seen Morrow listed as late 1round but ive seen other lists where hes not listed in the top 32. So maybe he’s close to Canucks 2nd pick at 41.

im sure theres probably better options at the 41 spot but he is a much needed Rt Dman.

RHD are hard to come by so I see him going in the bottom of the 1rst round. If he makes it to our 2nd round pick he very well could be the BPA.