Beary Sweet Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Not that we should be concerned since he’ll most likely go #1 to Buffalo but looks like he’ll be heading back to Michigan rather than suiting up for the NHL. Strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Cameron whynot for the win in the second round. He is actually pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Beary Sweet said: Not that we should be concerned since he’ll most likely go #1 to Buffalo but looks like he’ll be heading back to Michigan rather than suiting up for the NHL. Strange That's the smart move, gives him time to develop properly away from that cess pool. Michigan will be stacked next year, probably favourites to win a NCAA title, not going to win $&!# in Buffalo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: That's the smart move, gives him time to develop properly away from that cess pool. Michigan will be stacked next year, probably favourites to win a NCAA title, not going to win $&!# in Buffalo. If Buffalo takes him he may as well stay 4 years and pull a Vessey and go some where good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 6 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: So don't take this too literally, but, what I find Benning not be able to do, is spend asset..... Example.............Nate Schmidt was a hell of a deal, but ultimately, he does not fit our long term plans So, trade him to Ottawa at $2,000,000 retained and get Ottawa's 2 early 2nds......I am good with that and would accept the retention I would also accept an over payment Schmidt 2 million retained and a 2022/2023 3rd for the 2-2nds The point is, again.........just like Vegas moved solid asset at a cost......sometimes you have to do it to move forward....... Schmidt is probably at least our mid term 2LD. What you are only saying becomes valid if we re-sign Edler to more than 1 year. Of course many argue its time to move on now... We needed, still need as u mention, a RHD. But Schmidt was what was available playing MoneyPuck. The result was we received a god, but not perfect for our situation player. He is still in our plans IMO. I suppose you are arguing, if not a perfect fit why not hatch a plan for some picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 5 hours ago, R3aL said: I don’t see us taking a goalie that high with demko career just starting here Did Tampa already have Vailevski when they started playing Bishop? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: Did Tampa already have Vailevski when they started playing Bishop? Vasilevskiy drafted in 2012. Didn't come over for a couple of seasons. Back-up for a couple of seasons behind Bishop, then took over the starter role. Eventually moved Bishop for the main target Cernak, Budaj and a 7th rounder. Clear example of drafting not for need, but BPA, then utilizing that strength to fill a positional need. Thanks for bringing this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 minute ago, theo5789 said: Bishop for the main target Cernak, Budaj and a 7th rounder Whew, slaughter deal for one side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Looking at the Canucks depth... LW / RW - Podkolzin, Lind, Lockwood, Gadjovich, Plasek C - Focht, Costmar D - Juolevi, Rathbone, Woo, Utunen, Jurmo, Persson G - DiPietro, Silovs ...they need a quality C, badly Beniers Johnson McTavish Sillinger Lucius Svechkov Raty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, R3aL said: Well wasn’t the report about some attitude/off ice maturity issues? i believe that and his production are his biggest red flags. scouchs report explained the production well enough for me. And on sn650 interview he went on to say there are some rumbles of maturity issues. and honestly maybe I’m guessing but I’d have to think that must stem from frustration of playing with an old school shl team that hasn’t been using him properly or sharing the puck with him even on the ice. and he is a kid. but I’m not sure! agree 100% with your rankings of those 7 being locks in our teams top 9. and with gradin influence on Edvinsson / lysell I hope edvinsson is gone before our pick though and same with Kent Johnson. Interesting. I wasn't aware of any off-ice issues with Lysell, and haven't got around to watching the Scouching report everyone is talking about, but I watched him about 7 or 8 times between the two U17 tournaments and U18s, plus a couple more in SHL. As far as attitude and maturity, from what I've seen I've been generally pretty impressed. On-ice compete and effort level look good. And I had major concerns early on about his pro-adaptabilty - trying to do too much and be too flashy, forcing things offensively, challenging defenders needlessly. But when I saw him in SHL it was clear he was making every effort to get his $&!# together, to the point that he sometimes looked timid with the puck. To me this shows how much he cares and how badly he wants to be a pro hockey player. It will take him some time to sort out, but far as I can tell the hockey IQ is there. The bigger concern for me lately has been more with the size. For a guy who likes to drive the inside and challenge defenders, he is very easily removed from the puck at the pro level right now, which compounds the issues with his lack of pro-style game because he has very little margin for error to take bumps and win battles to hold on to the puck in traffic. I dunno, all in all, I have my various concerns with both Johnson and Lysell, but I think we shouldn't lose sight of just how talented they are and just how good they could be. I'd be pretty excited for the Canucks to draft either one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: Whew, slaughter deal for one side. Which side? Cernak is a pretty good get for a pending UFA you're not going to re-sign. Not like L.A. did anything with him either. Edited June 11, 2021 by HighOnHockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Marv-the-wet-bandit said: Edvinsson scares me, I think we need to take someone with a good hockey sense and IQ. He has the tools to be a top 10 pick but the toolbox is scary. Lambos is another guy I don’t think is a top 10 guy but I’d be really happy with any of the forwards you have listed there! I think too much hoopla is being made about his IQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Interesting, was looking at the mock draft at The Draft Analyst https://www.thedraftanalyst.com/2021-nhl-draft/2021-nhl-mock-draft-post-lottery-edition-round-1/ Could be great if it works out this way: 1. BUF - Power 2. SEA - Beniers 3. ANA - Eklund 4. NJ - Hughes 5. CBJ - Edvinsson 6. DET - Wallstedt 7. SJ - Johnson 8. LA - Clarke 9. VAN - McTavish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 minute ago, NUCKER67 said: Interesting, was looking at the mock draft at The Draft Analyst https://www.thedraftanalyst.com/2021-nhl-draft/2021-nhl-mock-draft-post-lottery-edition-round-1/ Could be great if it works out this way: 1. BUF - Power 2. SEA - Beniers 3. ANA - Eklund 4. NJ - Hughes 5. CBJ - Edvinsson 6. DET - Wallstedt 7. SJ - Johnson 8. LA - Clarke 9. VAN - McTavish I think there are likely 10 that will go in a scrambled order, but they will be (barring an off the board pick) the first 10 selected. The guys left at 9 (imo) could be Johnson, Wallstedt, or Hughes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: I think there are likely 10 that will go in a scrambled order, but they will be (barring an off the board pick) the first 10 selected. The guys left at 9 (imo) could be Johnson, Wallstedt, or Hughes. Hughes would be amazing at #9, like previous drafts with Quinn and Podkolzin falling to the Canucks. I can't see VAN taking a goalie with the #9, too important a pick, and they already have DiPietro and Silovs developing. I'm leaning towards them drafting a C (Johnson, McTavish) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv-the-wet-bandit Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, hammertime said: I think too much hoopla is being made about his IQ. With his size and skill set he’d be an option for number 1 in a draft year like this if he had high hockey IQ. After the way I’ve seen things shake out with JV18 I don’t want anyone that lacks hockey IQ if we are picking in the top 12-15. I think it’s an appropriate amount of hoopla haha. But we are free to feel differently about it. Neither of us will truly know for another few years if not longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Hughes would be amazing at #9, like previous drafts with Quinn and Podkolzin falling to the Canucks. I can't see VAN taking a goalie with the #9, too important a pick, and they already have DiPietro and Silovs developing. I'm leaning towards them drafting a C (Johnson, McTavish) Yup. It’s pretty much a group of about 4 guys who could be there at 9. Hughes, Edvinsson, and Clarke will highly likely be gone. Eklund might fall, and that guy at 9 would be a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Marv-the-wet-bandit said: With his size and skill set he’d be an option for number 1 in a draft year like this if he had high hockey IQ. After the way I’ve seen things shake out with JV18 I don’t want anyone that lacks hockey IQ if we are picking in the top 12-15. I think it’s an appropriate amount of hoopla haha. But we are free to feel differently about it. Neither of us will truly know for another few years if not longer Man....... really I dont think the 2 are comparable at all. JV has rocks in his head that is obvious. I dont think edvinsson is a dummy or a party boi. He is just a normal 18 YO who often gets thrown in the deep end of the pool due to his size. He defends the rush really well. He does some risky stuff and gets lost in the ice sometimes but I dont think for a second he is un teachable like Jake. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: Yup. It’s pretty much a group of about 4 guys who could be there at 9. Hughes, Edvinsson, and Clarke will highly likely be gone. Eklund might fall, and that guy at 9 would be a steal. I think the d’s and centre’s go. I think we’ll probably see the wingers or guys that might not become centre’s further on. McTavish might not be there. I think Guenther, Johnson, Lysell and Wellstedt are the guys available at our pick. Jim not wanting a goalie I think he goes with one of the other 3 guys. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: I think the d’s and centre’s go. I think we’ll probably see the wingers or guys that might not become centre’s further on. McTavish might not be there. I think Guenther, Johnson, Lysell and Wellstedt are the guys available at our pick. Jim not wanting a goalie I think he goes with one of the other 3 guys. If those are the guys left, I think Benning goes for Cuelemans or Lambos. Not much of a stretch for either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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