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2 minutes ago, Alflives said:

How do the first 8 shake out if Wallstedt goes in that group?

power

beniers

edvinson

wallstadt

Eklund

Hughes

Clarke

Mctavish

I see these guys as the top eight.  Their order might move around but I think they are all gone before we pick.  

Who are the highest ranked guys left for us?  Johnson, Gunther?  Who might we pick that’s a bit lower ranked, if not those two:  Lambos, Ceulemans?  

if all those are gone by 9, I'd be fine with Jim trading down later in the 1st if he could pick up some extra 2nds. 

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8 minutes ago, Alflives said:

How do the first 8 shake out if Wallstedt goes in that group?

power

beniers

edvinson

wallstadt

Eklund

Hughes

Clarke

Mctavish

I see these guys as the top eight.  Their order might move around but I think they are all gone before we pick.  

Who are the highest ranked guys left for us?  Johnson, Gunther?  Who might we pick that’s a bit lower ranked, if not those two:  Lambos, Ceulemans?  

Been told kings are very high on both johnson and gunther. 

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3 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Or Wallstadt is Markstrom, who was said to be great when very young, and he doesn’t mature until he is 28.  Really don’t want us to draft a goalie with our top pick.  

There are plenty of examples that are successes of first round goalie picks. All four goalies left in the playoffs are 1st round picks. There's risk for any other positional pick as well to become duds.

 

Wallstedt's ceiling is a #1 goalie, which would be very good value if he reaches that, where the other positions are available could just be middle pair dmen or middle 6 forwards. They may fill more of a "need", but then you're not potentially looking at BPA value.

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7 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

if all those are gone by 9, I'd be fine with Jim trading down later in the 1st if he could pick up some extra 2nds. 

I'd agree if there's a willing trade partner, otherwise, I'd be fine picking Benning's 9th guy that he likes also.

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Just now, Bertuzzipunch said:

Id be very surprised if wallstead isnt picked before our pick.

I agree, but if he's available at our pick, I think he would be BPA.

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15 minutes ago, hammertime said:

I mean if we are really boiling it down what the canucks really need is.....

1: Stay home RHD..... Jake Martin, Roman Schmidt.

2: Checking 3C..... Salminen, Helenius, 

3: Playmaker Pastujov, Koivunen

 

Several of these guys will likely be there for our 2nd. 

Wouldn't mind Red Savage as well for a potential "3C". Hopefully he's available with our 4th rounder. I think our 3rd round pick may be too high to select him.

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2 minutes ago, theo5789 said:

I agree, but if he's available at our pick, I think he would be BPA.

In that scenario do we trade dipietro for a late first or a second and a third?  

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13 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Or Wallstadt is Markstrom, who was said to be great when very young, and he doesn’t mature until he is 28.  Really don’t want us to draft a goalie with our top pick.  

Big difference in talent. Also Wallstedt apparently has the technical side already down which is where I believe most goalies need time to improve. If anything it means that Wallstedt will be NHL ready a lot sooner than most goalies.

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1 minute ago, theo5789 said:

Wouldn't mind Red Savage as well for a potential "3C". Hopefully he's available with our 4th rounder. I think our 3rd round pick may be too high to select him.

Draft him for his name.  That’s a great name - Red Savage.  

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Just now, TGokou said:

Big difference in talent. Also Wallstedt apparently has the technical side already down which is where I believe most goalies need time to improve. If anything it means that Wallstedt will be NHL ready a lot sooner than most goalies.

Wasn’t Wallstedt kind of bad this season though, including the U18s?  

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I really didn't think Wallstedt would be considered, but maybe he's one of Benning's Top 9? 

 

I just figured since VAN has Demko, and DiPietro and Silovs are developing, they would be set up for years, but those two might not ever become regular NHL players, let alone good enough top become starters. 

 

Wallstedt would ensure their goaltending is secure for many years. Teams won't do squat in the playoffs without great goaltending. 

 

If not Wallstedt, could they get Cossa with the 2nd?

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6 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

I really didn't think Wallstedt would be considered, but maybe he's one of Benning's Top 9? 

 

I just figured since VAN has Demko, and DiPietro and Silovs are developing, they would be set up for years, but those two might not ever become regular NHL players, let alone good enough top become starters. 

 

Wallstedt would ensure their goaltending is secure for many years. Teams won't do squat in the playoffs without great goaltending. 

 

If not Wallstedt, could they get Cossa with the 2nd?

Well going by what ian clark thinks hes pretty convinced that both goalies will be NHL goalies. Id take his word over most

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15 minutes ago, Alflives said:

In that scenario do we trade dipietro for a late first or a second and a third?  

Then we see how things play out in 2-3 years time. I'd like to see DiPietro get some NHL time to hopefully boost his value. But if a team is willing to pay a late 1st, I'd take it and run. Or perhaps a team is willing to move a player of positional need for us that is more of a known commodity.

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So Wallstedt is available at 9 Vancouver trades 9OA to Detroit

 

We get

23OA Aatu Raty

Det 2nd Heimosalmi 

We can afford to take a swing for the fences draft Stankoven/Rosen with our 2nd.

Rags 2nd  Jake Martin/Roman Schmidt (Shut down RHD)

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8 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said:

Well going by what ian clark thinks hes pretty convinced that both goalies will be NHL goalies. Id take his word over most

You'd think Clark would publicly suggest that any of our goalies are potentially not NHL goalies? Also an NHL backup is technically an "NHL goalie" as well. With that said, I think DiPietro has what it takes as well, but I wouldn't skip on BPA because of it. If one of Benning's other "9 guys" that he likes is available as well because other teams took other players not on our list, then I guess depends on how Benning has them ranked.

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9 minutes ago, hammertime said:

So Wallstedt is available at 9 Vancouver trades 9OA to Detroit

 

We get

23OA Aatu Raty

Det 2nd Heimosalmi 

We can afford to take a swing for the fences draft Stankoven/Rosen with our 2nd.

Rags 2nd  Jake Martin/Roman Schmidt (Shut down RHD)

I think if we are moving down from 9th to 23rd, we should be getting more of a known commodity that can help us sooner.

 

Maybe the 23rd, a 2nd rounder and Antti Tuomisto.

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1 hour ago, hammertime said:

He will be 30 with a 6m cap hit for 4 more years. If you look at it from an asset MGMT standpoint it cost a 3rd to protect the rest of our kids from seattle. JB gets 6m back in the palm of his hand to put towards Pete and Huggy. Maybe JB can swing a move for Foote or Fabbro's rights and re sign Hammonic. 

 

IMO Schmidt makes sense for the Canucks to expose and would also make the most sense for Seattle to take. 

 

Don't think GMJB gives up on him that easily after 1 year with the team.

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