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4 minutes ago, 73 Percent said:

Petey miller boeser

Pearson horvat hoglander

Podkolzin random disappointing UFA virtanen (for now)

Motte beagle highmore

 

 

That's my take on it anyway 

Yup and that's what we'll probably see - which will be a really nice Top 6 finally. But the 3rd still feels like a disaster

 

- but -

 

Hoglander Miller Boeser

Random UFA Pettersson Podkolzin

Pearson Horvat Lind

Motte Sutter Highmore

 

Could be even better

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30 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said:

If mctavish and wallstead are both picked before our pick i can truly see clarke being there for us to draft.

Man, I get a sneaking suspicion one of Clarke or Hughes will be there for us... for some inexplicable reason.

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35 minutes ago, nzan said:

Yup and that's what we'll probably see - which will be a really nice Top 6 finally. But the 3rd still feels like a disaster

 

- but -

 

Hoglander Miller Boeser

Random UFA Pettersson Podkolzin

Pearson Horvat Lind

Motte Sutter Highmore

 

Could be even better

I just dont see an affordable UFA center that would outscore and out matchup horvat.

 

Did you have someone in mind?

 

Top 5 UFA centers

Danault

Krejci 

Stastny 

Getzlad

Bozak

 

 

Edit: nevermind I completely misread.

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Sorry retarded
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4 hours ago, hammertime said:

Are they??? Is he???? 

 

Ill use 2020 stats because EP missed more games than he played this year. 

 

JT Miller took 718 faceoffs winning 59.2% 

EP took a whopping 141 faceoffs winning 41.8% 

 

IMO EP is far from ready to handle 1C duty without a dedicated C riding shotty with him.  

B I N G O, to me its time to move EP to the wing full time. Unfortunately in the NHL his lanky frame is just not going to be able to hold up over an 82 game schedule let alone the even more intense post season series...

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4 hours ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said:

I mean, many projected Petey to play wing once he got to the NHL. Boy am I glad they were proved wrong!

He can play the position, but is a low 40% face off rating really what you want out of your so called #1C who is likely going to be your highest paid player at some point. Don't get the barzal or Point comparisons myself when it comes to similar contracts... Show me a year that Petey scored over 70 points in a season, 0 times is your answer. Barzal has an 85pt season under his belt while proving to be durable and Point has a 90pt plus season under his belt, while EP has been injured almost every year with a high of 66pts on 2 occasions. AND NO you can't say well his ppg was this or that cause its not what your pt projections would have been when you get paid its how durable you are as a player and what your actual stats show. I do NOT want to pay EP like those 2 other guys they have a 80 and 90 pt plus season under their belts each, EP does not and that is just the COLD HARD Facts cdc.

 

It is called being a realist when it comes to contract negotiations, the team can play hard ball and sure a player can sign a offer sheet but that is so rare to be successful it barely every happens and when it does there are usually reprocussions that come from it, Canucks had it happen to them in the past.Same goes for QH he has no arb rights so the Sergachev deal should be all JB offers him, won't make that kind of dough if he jumps ship to europe...

 

We should try to add to our C depth in this draft as well as the RHD spot in the first couple picks then venture more to BPA or an area of need again with the remaining picks. Looks like a decent RHD prospect will be available with our 2nd round pick so maybe go C with the 9th or as i would prefer trade down and try to add another 2nd or 3rd rounder depending on how far down we trade or we do multiple trade downs if we are high on a guy that slides or is under the radar.

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3 hours ago, 73 Percent said:

I want miller to C and petey to play wing. I dont know why everyone is so obsessed on moving our leading scorer to 3c

Cause they don't know hockey...if you play your 1st line the most and PP unit #1 and they take lots of draws in the hopes of winning the face off in the opponents end. The Canucks aren't going to win much more than maybe 45% of those draws if EP40 is your #1C, I don't know if its his lack of weight that allows others to win the draw from him or just bad timing/technique on his part but its a pretty important role for any C let alone your #1C who will be paid handsomely to be very proficient in the face off circle if you want to give your team the best chance at scoring in those situations, which would lead to more victories. What concerns me more is he got to work with Malhotra on those issues but we never saw an improvement or the coach trust him to be the C taking those key draws, they got supposed LW JT Miller to do most of them.

 

Anyone on here suggesting JT Miller as a #3C for the Canucks right now is delusional in my mind! Much smarter to take the defensive part of the C fully away from EP40 and allow him to focus on just scoring and scoring and breaking ankles in the process!!

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3 minutes ago, theo5789 said:

He seemed to handle the playoffs just fine. Teams couldn't really shut him down and he had 18 points in 17 games in his first stint. He needs to be stronger on faceoffs, but that's about it. He's a good 200ft player and his "lanky" frame isn't as big of a deal down the middle unlike on wing where he would have to do more board battles. He's up to almost 180lbs, which was Henrik Sedin's weight in the NHL.

 

So for me, just more work on faceoffs. And he's driven to improve in the area. Perhaps someone like Beagle despite being injured could continue to help him along in a Malhotra type capacity.

Henrik Sedins skeleton is made of adamantium though. I don't recall the actual figure but wasn't his ironman streak nearly 700 games.

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3 hours ago, nzan said:

How about moving our leading scorer to 1c?

And Petey to 2c where he could assumedly find easier minutes with Bo and Pearson playing hard 3c offensive/match-up minutes

Just not sure who all the wingers are on both those top 2 lines

Why, he still will lose nearly 60% of any draws (EP) takes so why do that, just means any offensive zone opportunity will be nullified right when the puck is dropped, around 60% of the time anyways 

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2 hours ago, Bertuzzipunch said:

If mctavish and wallstead are both picked before our pick i can truly see clarke being there for us to draft.

Wishful thinking but I doubt it. Can't see 8 teams passing on a possible top pair RHD, I think teams have changed their philosophy some when it comes to top picks. Look at Cale Makar, everyone was like who is that kid, he is a smurf he played the the AJHL against crap competition...Fast forward to now, Colorado took him and he was a Norris Finalist at age 22 and won the Calder already too!

 

You think if a team believe Clarke can round out his game they won't take a chance on him with a top 8 pick considering he is a RHD who has good instincts and offense in his game??

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5 minutes ago, hammertime said:

Henrik Sedins skeleton is made of adamantium though. I don't recall the actual figure but wasn't his ironman streak nearly 700 games.

That streak started when he was 24. So there's still time for Petey to get one going. Or we need to get some Vibranium for Petey.

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15 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said:

Wishful thinking but I doubt it. Can't see 8 teams passing on a possible top pair RHD, I think teams have changed their philosophy some when it comes to top picks. Look at Cale Makar, everyone was like who is that kid, he is a smurf he played the the AJHL against crap competition...Fast forward to now, Colorado took him and he was a Norris Finalist at age 22 and won the Calder already too!

 

You think if a team believe Clarke can round out his game they won't take a chance on him with a top 8 pick considering he is a RHD who has good instincts and offense in his game??

Theres been way crazier things happen on draft day so why not

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3 hours ago, Alflives said:

If Clarke falls to us at 9 i will give up booze for a week.  Okay a day.  Okay an hour.  Okay I'll give up my Vegan diet.  There, that's it.  

Thought you ate " Cats " 

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4 hours ago, NUCKER67 said:

It's all good, some of these players are hyped right before the Draft because of a few good games in the U18. McTavish, for example, wasn't near the Top 10 before, but now he could go Top 3 lol

 

And reverse - Lucius and Lambos were in the Top 10 at one point too, but dropped down. They're still very good players! Edvinsson was also in the Top 5 conversation, but a mediocre U18 and he's dropped out of the Top 10. 

 

Do we rely a little too heavily on the U18 and World Championship?  (rather than the entire body of work)

 

 

 

Depends who you mean by "we". NHL scouts have been watching McTavish all season. They will have known for a while how good he is. Just wasn't until U18s that a bigger audience was able to see it too. Similarly with Edvinsson. I have to admit, I was way behind on McTavish too, but I've been talking about Edvinsson's defensive struggles for over a year now. I actually thought he looked a lot better at U18s.

 

Heimosalmi is another one. Put himself on the map in a big way with his U18s. NHL teams' Finnish scouts will have been telling their scouting directors and GMs about how good Heimosalmi is, but now because of U18s everyone knows it.

 

Lambos has always had question marks, but the upside was high enough that he was ranked high anyway. He just never really got a good chance to dispel the concerns this season, so he's too much risk. U18s actually could have done a lot for him. Ceulemans is another one who's draft ranking U18s actually did likely have significant impact on. He only played 8 games in a relatively low level league this season, so this tournament was crucial for him. And for Lucius, I didn't realize he was considered to be falling? But it's true for him too, U18s would have been a little higher level competition that could have helped answer some questions regarding his play off the puck.

 

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7 hours ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said:

Is Sillinger a projected C too? I was under the impression that he wasn't a pure centre like Beniers or McTavish.

 

edit: same with Raty.

Not a pure C, but Sillinger will be able to play both C and LW in the NHL. My feeling is that he'll be primarily a center, but he's a swiss army knife, and I believe he is a guy who will take great pride in being versatile and playing wherever he's needed in the lineup.

 

Lucius is another one who is up in the air, but my suspicion is that if he pans out to something close to his ceiling, I actually think he'll be a center. One thing I've always loved about his game is that for all the goal-scoring he does, kid is a playmaker - things run through him when he's on his game. Doesn't have Zibanejad's power element, but reminds me of that style a little bit the way he carries it up the middle, kicks it out to his wingers and gets to the net.

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