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3 hours ago, Bertuzzipunch said:

Theres been way crazier things happen on draft day so why not

Maybe. But I still don’t see 8 teams before we select, passing on Clarke. RHD don’t grow on trees, and they are far too expensive to acquire in a trade. 

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6 hours ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said:

Do you think there's a team in the top-10 that will take a "chance" on him, whether it's Detroit, SJ, LA, Vancouver, etc.?

Well in Doug Wilson's 20 years in San Jose they've never picked a goalie earlier than the third round, so I can't see that happening. Neither has Rob Blake, but in a much smaller sample size. I don't see any strong reason L.A. would or wouldn't pick him. They've had some success from Sweden under Blake. Detroit makes the most sense, as they have a heavy scouting presence in Sweden, and Yzerman has picked a goalie high before - Vasilievsky 19th overall. But 6th overall seems like a bit of a stretch to me; I can't imagine there won't be better players available. Vancouver would surprise me; I know BPA over everything, but the one time positional needs does seem to come into play with high picks is when it comes to goalies. And I'm pretty sure they don't want another Luongo-Schneider fiasco.

 

Ottawa is an interesting one. Most of their primary scouts were former goalies - Bob Janecyk, Don Boyd, Trent Mann. So if anyone was going to trust their scouts to take a goalie super early, it would be them. All in all though, I dunno, for right now my guess is no to Wallstedt going top ten.

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56 minutes ago, N4ZZY said:

Maybe. But I still don’t see 8 teams before we select, passing on Clarke. RHD don’t grow on trees, and they are far too expensive to acquire in a trade. 

I see a lot of people speculating that Clarke may be available to us and I think they’re gonna be very disappointed come draft day 

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1 hour ago, N4ZZY said:

Maybe. But I still don’t see 8 teams before we select, passing on Clarke. RHD don’t grow on trees, and they are far too expensive to acquire in a trade. 

Some teams dont need a RHD like detroit for example. Top 2 teams most likely gonna take power and benier so really its just 5 teams not 8 that will pass on him lol

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21 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said:

Some teams dont need a RHD like detroit for example. Top 2 teams most likely gonna take power and benier so really its just 5 teams not 8 that will pass on him lol

The Wings have Hronek and Seider on the right side with Stetcher signed for another year. They could definitely still take Clarke, you don’t pass on Clarke just because Stetcher is on the team. Clarke, Seider and Hronek for the long term would be huge for them on the right side 

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5 minutes ago, Marv-the-wet-bandit said:

The Wings have Hronek and Seider on the right side with Stetcher signed for another year. They could definitely still take Clarke, you don’t pass on Clarke just because Stetcher is on the team. Clarke, Seider and Hronek for the long term would be huge for them on the right side 

Okay but the thing is they are extremely weak on the left side for defenseman. Why take a Clarke when u can take hughes or eviddson? 

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7 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said:

Okay but the thing is they are extremely weak on the left side for defenseman. Why take a Clarke when u can take hughes or eviddson? 

It just depends who they’re highest on. I think they’d be foolish to leave Hughes on the table if he isn’t snatched up by 6 but I think they’d be just as foolish taking Edvinsson over Clarke. I think Hughes is going to play with his brother in Jersey but who really knows

 

 

Also they have some prospects coming up on the left side in Albert Johansson and William Wallinder. Jared McIsaac also plays the left side but I don’t know how high they are on him at the moment

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1 hour ago, HighOnHockey said:

Well in Doug Wilson's 20 years in San Jose they've never picked a goalie earlier than the third round, so I can't see that happening. Neither has Rob Blake, but in a much smaller sample size. I don't see any strong reason L.A. would or wouldn't pick him. They've had some success from Sweden under Blake. Detroit makes the most sense, as they have a heavy scouting presence in Sweden, and Yzerman has picked a goalie high before - Vasilievsky 19th overall. But 6th overall seems like a bit of a stretch to me; I can't imagine there won't be better players available. Vancouver would surprise me; I know BPA over everything, but the one time positional needs does seem to come into play with high picks is when it comes to goalies. And I'm pretty sure they don't want another Luongo-Schneider fiasco.

 

Ottawa is an interesting one. Most of their primary scouts were former goalies - Bob Janecyk, Don Boyd, Trent Mann. So if anyone was going to trust their scouts to take a goalie super early, it would be them. All in all though, I dunno, for right now my guess is no to Wallstedt going top ten.

I can see Wallstedt going to Ottawa. Man, they are beginning to form a pretty strong core of young players moving forward. They’re going to be good. The question is whether they can retain all of their young talent when it’s time. 

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1 hour ago, Marv-the-wet-bandit said:

I see a lot of people speculating that Clarke may be available to us and I think they’re gonna be very disappointed come draft day 

Yeah. I agree. I think he’s gone probably in the 3-5 range. I can’t see him dropping that much farther down. 

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17 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said:

Okay but the thing is they are extremely weak on the left side for defenseman. Why take a Clarke when u can take hughes or eviddson? 

Because Clarke as a RHD is a better commodity. A RHD and a good player at that? So talent, and positional need? Detroit can afford to develop him, and then use him as trade chip down the road (or another player on their roster and organization) if need be. Pick BPA. Yzerman seems to be the kind of GM who will do that. 

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Just now, N4ZZY said:

Because Clarke as a RHD is a better commodity. A RHD and a good player at that? So talent, and positional need? Detroit can afford to develop him, and then use him as trade chip down the road (or another player on their roster and organization) if need be. Pick BPA. Yzerman seems to be the kind of GM who will do that. 

Detroit needs forwards and goalies they have a lot of picks later on for defenseman. Id be very surprised if stevie doesnt draft Eklund  or johnson

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9 hours ago, HighOnHockey said:

I think P.L. Dubois is a better comparison, in that Hayton was a surprise right up until the draft. Dubois flew up the rankings late in the season and ended up ranked first in N.A. according to Central Scouting (Matthews was listed as Europe). Nobody who was paying attention was surprised when Dubois went 3rd. McTavish ends up ranked 2nd in N.A. according to Central this year. Nobody who is paying attention this year will be surprised if McTavish goes top five or close.

 

Edit: oh, wait, that's exactly what you were saying. This is what happens when you jump into the middle of a discussion half-cocked.

Haha yes exactly! 

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Lots of talk that Clarke is a Klingberg clone and I personally don’t see a need for that on our team. If he’s there at 9 take him due to the RHD aspect of it, but I personally think we need to go big and mean with our right side since our whole left side in the future consists of PMD in Hughes, Rathbone, Juolevi. 
Id go for high end talent to play on the top line like a Johnson or Guenther, of course Eklund is a pipe dream but those three guys I’d target on draft day. No way Pearson should be in our top 6 and Piggy is still a bit of a question mark (I think he will be awesome) but you never know. 
 

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4 hours ago, Bertuzzipunch said:

Detroit needs forwards and goalies they have a lot of picks later on for defenseman. Id be very surprised if stevie doesnt draft Eklund  or johnson

What pick does Detroit hold in the first round? 

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2 hours ago, KyGuy123 said:

Lots of talk that Clarke is a Klingberg clone and I personally don’t see a need for that on our team. If he’s there at 9 take him due to the RHD aspect of it, but I personally think we need to go big and mean with our right side since our whole left side in the future consists of PMD in Hughes, Rathbone, Juolevi. 
Id go for high end talent to play on the top line like a Johnson or Guenther, of course Eklund is a pipe dream but those three guys I’d target on draft day. No way Pearson should be in our top 6 and Piggy is still a bit of a question mark (I think he will be awesome) but you never know. 
 

Who’s piggy? LOL. 

 

Eklund won’t drop down to 9th. There is 0 percent chance of that happening. He’s too good to drop that far down in the draft. 

 

Who’s saying Clarke is a Klingberg clone? 

 

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3 hours ago, R3aL said:

Not for me

 

McTavish would be my guy

Yeah. Love Wallstedt, but I think we need some grit, and if McTavish has that and great shot, and who can put up points. I think you gotta go with a player like that. We have Demko for the next five years, and there will be plenty of opportunity in that time frame to draft and develop a goalie. Maybe not as good as Wallstedt, but hey, takes more than one player to make a team. 

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