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3 minutes ago, HighOnHockey said:

Lucius is a kid I haven't seen mentioned a lot here, but I think there's a pretty legit chance he is the Canucks' guy. We'll see where he ends up on McKenzie's final list, but he was 9 at mid-season. And Canucks have had huge success out of USHL/NTDP in Benning's time there: Thatcher Demko, Brock Boeser, Quinn Hughes.

Yeah I agree. Honestly there’s so many guys that could legitimately go in that 9 spot, it’s an extremely intriguing draft. I’m excited to see how it all shakes out 

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29 minutes ago, HighOnHockey said:

Lucius is a kid I haven't seen mentioned a lot here, but I think there's a pretty legit chance he is the Canucks' guy. We'll see where he ends up on McKenzie's final list, but he was 9 at mid-season. And Canucks have had huge success out of USHL/NTDP in Benning's time there: Thatcher Demko, Brock Boeser, Quinn Hughes.

 

25 minutes ago, Marv-the-wet-bandit said:

Yeah I agree. Honestly there’s so many guys that could legitimately go in that 9 spot, it’s an extremely intriguing draft. I’m excited to see how it all shakes out 

I don't see Lucius as the kinda play driver the Canucks need.  The Canucks have guys that can shoot the puck in Petey, Boeser, Miller, Bo and even Hogz to a certain extent.  The Canucks need someone that can drive the play and be creative with the puck to get it to these guys. 

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8 minutes ago, appleboy said:

Players who could be selected much higher then the main draft boards suggest.

 

Lambos

Sillinger

Svechkov

Ceulemans

Lysell

Lucius

And if even just a couple of these two get picked top 8 then two of the guys ranked high fall to us.  We are in a very good position to get an excellent prospect, who could be contributing to our lineup (on an elc) inside of two years.  

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2 hours ago, Alflives said:

What league is it that Sillinger did so well in this past year?   USHL?  Is that a good league?

High school league.  Worrisome indeed...easy to dominate for a bigger dude. 

 

Good bloodlines though.  Dad Mike had a great career for sure!

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33 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

You know, I know I should let it go

 

But I just can not understand why those last few wins were so important.

 

4 friggin points

 

How much did it really help their development?

Horvat, Demko, Quinn and company don't care about the draft pick that's coming in.  It probably doesn't even register with them, so it is what it is....  

 

We will get a good player at 9 and at 40, don't worry! 

 

Btw how do you think Ottawa fans feel?  They were looking at the 2nd overall pick for most of the year and then went on a very good run to get them up to 11th or wherever they're picking now. 

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3 hours ago, Dats hockey said:

I recommend watching a highlight reel of the kid, he’s kinda nasty if he get faster maybe a Barzal comparable 

Ya I was leaning more that direction. This young man has some game and is a highly driven, motivated and skilled player. 

Not sure why the negative conotations popping up recently but whoever gets Johnson will at worst gets a version of Nug-kins and could hit a Homer's and get Petey-light.

 

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1 hour ago, janisahockeynut said:

You know, I know I should let it go

 

But I just can not understand why those last few wins were so important.

 

4 friggin points

 

How much did it really help their development?

I played a lot of hockey in my life and I have yet to learn how to learn how to play to lose. The competitive nature just takes over.

This is even harder for the top pros in the world. I doubt the coaches know how to coach to lose either. Especially considering Green was without a contract. 

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27 minutes ago, shayster007 said:

Gotta let it go Jan. Those wins weren't for the fans, the coaches, management, nothing. Those last few wins were for the team, and they earned him. I would have been embarrassed to be a Canuck if they mailed it in for a draft pick. The kids want to win, we can only respect that and support them. We are going to get a hell of a player at 9.

Especially in a year where the draft is going to be extremely unpredictable. Hard to get a proper read on most of them. 

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2 hours ago, J-Dizzle said:

what’s the deal with Raty… guy seems to be ranked all over the place depending who you’re looking at?

I'm still pretty high on this guy - He could be a hell of a player if he pulls it all together. Skill, size, speed, all round game - He was an early pick for #1 for a reason. 

The kids just had a very average second year - didn't make a impact once playing against men in Finland and his game kinda stalled - especially offensively. Kinda looked a bit like Podkolzin in his D+1 in some ways. Then there was the strange affair of why he didn't get re-invited to World Jnrs by Finland - was it just politics or much more likely they didn't like the player - huge alarm bell. 

If Salo really likes the player and they can get to the bottom of the issues and believe the upside is really there - i wouldn't hate the pick. But i think at this time there is a lot less risk in McTavish, Sillinger, Johnson, Lucius etc.  

Could be this years Chychrun - lots of teams regret not taking that risk. 

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3 hours ago, NUCKER67 said:

I won't claim to be an expert or know all about Johnson, I just have my own opinions. My first impression of Johnson is: super skilled, high risk/high reward, will take time to develop properly

 

Do the Canucks want to develop their #9 overall player for the next 2-3 years, like Jake and Olli? (and even then, will Green trust him enough?)

 

Or do they want a McTavish or Sillinger, to add to their group when they compete for playoffs in a couple of years?

 

 

I do think that McT and Sillinger will be our best bets to contribute in what is hopefully the upcoming start of our cup contention window. 

While i'm pretty high on Johnson, i think him, and a few of the D ( Luke Hughes inc) could be looking at 2-3 years before they make a team. I think even Owen Power really should take another year before playing in the NHL - #1 pick or not... you gotta remember how little some of these guys have played in the last year.  That probably is gonna be a factor for us and Benning when they are looking at prospects. 

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43 minutes ago, GarthButcher5 said:

I played a lot of hockey in my life and I have yet to learn how to learn how to play to lose. The competitive nature just takes over.

This is even harder for the top pros in the world. I doubt the coaches know how to coach to lose either. Especially considering Green was without a contract. 

Losing is for losers. And we don’t want losers

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2 hours ago, HKSR said:

 

I don't see Lucius as the kinda play driver the Canucks need.  The Canucks have guys that can shoot the puck in Petey, Boeser, Miller, Bo and even Hogz to a certain extent.  The Canucks need someone that can drive the play and be creative with the puck to get it to these guys. 

I'm not so sure. Have to admit I haven't seen him very much, but I thought I saw glimpses of what could be a legitimate play-creator. There were definitely times that he looked like he was floating a bit waiting for the puck to come to him, but there were other times, especially at the U17s, where it looked like the offense was running through him. You tend to see the label "playmaker" associated with players who rack up assists, but what I thought I saw at U17s was a guy who creates plays from start to finish - give-and-go setups where the whole thing would run through him, except it would finish with him too. I've made the comparison to Zibanejad as a guy who is at his best when he's driving the puck up the middle, kicking it out to his wingers and driving the net. But Lucius doesn't have that power element driving the net. Maybe Brayden Point would be a better comparable - a guy who can make plays and finish through the middle of the ice, perhaps a specialist in the bumper position on the powerplay.

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