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2 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

I'd rather lose a second than Gadjovich or Lind, both of whom are second rounders with years of development.  My concern is more regarding what they'll pick instead rather than the cap savings.

Both Gadgy & Lind ''might'' be NHL players.  If I had my prediction cap on? They don't currently project to be 200 game NHL players. Currently project to 3rd line ceilings. If they continue to develop as they did last year?  Just look like guys who will get a shot. I do agree that is better than a lot of 2knd round picks.

 

Which by the way, is what you normally ask for from their draft position.     

 

Hoglander, however, as a 2knd was an elite athlete.  Similar skills at draft age. Could compete and battle with pro's right away based on strength, endurance.  Had more upside because he could power away from battles with the puck. Every 2knd or 3rd year there is one or two out there who has that type of upside. More than we will get from Gadgy or Lind.  Who have to find another gear still to jump to the NHL.  

 

I am happy to keep picks.  But I see why you could view it that way.

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3 hours ago, Alflives said:

Maybe we could get both Rhino and Risto in the same deal?  

What would the Canucks be offering in return? 

 

9OA definitely would have to be included. 

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30 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

Might need a sweetener depending on what Boston is offering.  This would be the best case scenario for the expansion draft.

If Boston wants him, they can make it work. We shouldn't need to add. If Seattle ends up taking someone else, then we can make a trade with Boston after expansion.

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1 minute ago, N4ZZY said:

What would the Canucks be offering in return? 

 

9OA definitely would have to be included. 

and loui would have to dissapear too! we cant afford them both even if we traded away schmidt or myers.

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1 hour ago, HockeyHarry said:

As always Interesting Friedman on D&D yesterday.

 

 

end part about Holtby going to Seattle then traded to Boston.

 

Canucks cant trade Holtby directly to Boston (who apparently want him) cause they dont have another Goalie thats expansion draft eligible. Unless they trade for another nhl goalie.

 

but at lest it would open up cap room if Holtby is drafted by the dreaded Kraken.

I thought for goalies the rule is just a signed or qualified RFA goalie. I don't think there's a criteria for games played and so on. So we could technically qualify Keilly and have him as our exposed goalie (unless I misinterpreted the rules).

 

I don't think Boston wants to spend assets now to acquire him though as Seattle could take him in the end. So I suspect they rather go through this expansion route instead if this is indeed true.

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3 minutes ago, theo5789 said:

I thought for goalies the rule is just a signed or qualified RFA goalie. I don't think there's a criteria for games played and so on. So we could technically qualify Keilly and have him as our exposed goalie (unless I misinterpreted the rules).

 

I don't think Boston wants to spend assets now to acquire him though as Seattle could take him in the end. So I suspect they rather go through this expansion route instead if this is indeed true.

Regardless of how Holtby gets to Boston we dump his cap.  Use Dipietro as the backup and save over 3 mil off our cap, right?  

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24 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Regardless of how Holtby gets to Boston we dump his cap.  Use Dipietro as the backup and save over 3 mil off our cap, right?  

Demko has had a long list of lengthy injuries.  
 

i wouldn’t feel comfortable with this scenario unless Ian Clark thinks Mikey is ready. 

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48 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Regardless of how Holtby gets to Boston we dump his cap.  Use Dipietro as the backup and save over 3 mil off our cap, right?  

Laurent Brossoit is always a cheap back-up option as well.

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18 hours ago, Dazzle said:

You're telling me that you were privy to a particular prospect more than other scouts? It would've been believable if you said Glass was 5 because a lot of mock drafts had him there. But to say you had Pettersson ranked there is not at all believable. Only one source put him at 5. The rest were quite diverse. One source didn't even put him in the first round!

 

Unfortunately for you, I did a search and saw that you didn't write a lot about Dobson OR Pettersson. :rolleyes:  Why do you have to lie?

 

 

 

 

Yawn. Just because a search doesn't have a name in it doesn't mean I'm not talking about that person. Most of my posts are quoting someone else. Here is the Caufield pick.

Posted June 8, 2019

  On 6/8/2019 at 11:23 AM, stawns said:

I'd take Caufield over any dman not named Byram.  Not even close for me.  If they get Caufield at #10, we should all be jumping for joy.

Same here. Everyone likes to make excuses for why he won't get be a good player. Ie. Skating, size, playoffs etc.  His elite talent will shine through regardless of his 'short'comings. I expect his floor to be 25 goals and potentially upwards of 40 goals in his prime as his upside. 

 

 

Here are some posts about Dobson:

 

Posted June 2, 2018

  On 6/2/2018 at 9:32 PM, Isam said:

Huh. Dobson is probably the fastest chl defenseman in the draft and probably one of the top five skaters overall. Also, what makes you think his offensive game is only gonna 30 points in his prime?

Agreed. I think 30 points is his floor...

 

Posted June 24, 2018

  On 6/24/2018 at 9:02 PM, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said:

The defining moment for me is how the draft went down and JB’s post pick reaction.  

 

I truly belive in thus clubs scouting.  JB got his guy. That was clear and that alone should speak volumes. What do I know as a fan compared to the guys who drafted Boeser, OJ, Pettersson, Gaudette etc..  since Judd Brackett this team has picked the right guy more than not. 

 

The reality is that Quinn was fully expected to be taken prior to our selection and many of us did want Dobson or Bouchard. They could still prove to be better picks. But our guy is Hughes. So enjoy his potential. 

 

JB had his choice of d man and choose Hughes over the other three.  I down with that. 

 

To the auto bashing of Bouchard and Dobson, still believe in them as a players. Don’t think anyone needs to smear other picks. 

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Dobson was my guy but I had Hughes right behind. Time will tell who will be the better defenseman but I hope both can succeed to do well in this league.

 

 

 

I couldn't find much on Pettersson so I'm gonna let you take the win on that one. I actually didn't post much that draft which is unlike me. Based on my few posts though if Makar had been available I would've picked him.

 

 

This is what I had to say about the Virtanen draft and picking Ehlers:

 

Im a little warmer to the idea of drafting Virtanen. It's not because he has a great shot, skating or tenacity. The main reason I pick Virtanen over the other prospects is that I see him at worst a really good 3rd line hockey player but most likely an upside of 2nd line winger, MAYBE a 1st line winger...hence a really safe pick. Also what intrigues me the most is that he is one of the youngest of his draft class and will have ample time to hone his skill. I think Virtanen is maybe more of a project than some of the other prospects, and I expect him to take minimum 3 years to make it to the NHL and should not be rushed. I still think his potential upside is less than Ehlers and comparable with Ritchie but is most likely the safest pick of the three.

 

I pick Ehlers if I want the most exciting game-breaker and score 70 + points. He will instantly increase the speed of the team and would likely be the team's leading scorer after the Sedins retire/fade. Would be an instant fan-favourite. On the other hand, I don't see him as a total bust but maybe 20g 20a 40 point scorer playing on second line at worst(?)

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20 hours ago, janisahockeynut said:

I keep asking................what is the one position we do not have a key player in

 

The answer is...............a Right Hand Dman

 

The next question is....................

 

When is the next time we will be in position to go after one?

 

So lets do it!

Heimosalmi it is!

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6 minutes ago, TGokou said:

Yawn. Just because a search doesn't have a name in it doesn't mean I'm not talking about that person. Most of my posts are quoting someone else. Here is the Caufield pick.

Posted June 8, 2019

  On 6/8/2019 at 11:23 AM, stawns said:

I'd take Caufield over any dman not named Byram.  Not even close for me.  If they get Caufield at #10, we should all be jumping for joy.

Same here. Everyone likes to make excuses for why he won't get be a good player. Ie. Skating, size, playoffs etc.  His elite talent will shine through regardless of his 'short'comings. I expect his floor to be 25 goals and potentially upwards of 40 goals in his prime as his upside. 

 

 

Here are some posts about Dobson:

 

Posted June 2, 2018

  On 6/2/2018 at 9:32 PM, Isam said:

Huh. Dobson is probably the fastest chl defenseman in the draft and probably one of the top five skaters overall. Also, what makes you think his offensive game is only gonna 30 points in his prime?

Agreed. I think 30 points is his floor...

 

Posted June 24, 2018

  On 6/24/2018 at 9:02 PM, Eastcoast meets Westcoast said:

The defining moment for me is how the draft went down and JB’s post pick reaction.  

 

I truly belive in thus clubs scouting.  JB got his guy. That was clear and that alone should speak volumes. What do I know as a fan compared to the guys who drafted Boeser, OJ, Pettersson, Gaudette etc..  since Judd Brackett this team has picked the right guy more than not. 

 

The reality is that Quinn was fully expected to be taken prior to our selection and many of us did want Dobson or Bouchard. They could still prove to be better picks. But our guy is Hughes. So enjoy his potential. 

 

JB had his choice of d man and choose Hughes over the other three.  I down with that. 

 

To the auto bashing of Bouchard and Dobson, still believe in them as a players. Don’t think anyone needs to smear other picks. 

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Dobson was my guy but I had Hughes right behind. Time will tell who will be the better defenseman but I hope both can succeed to do well in this league.

 

 

 

I couldn't find much on Pettersson so I'm gonna let you take the win on that one. I actually didn't post much that draft which is unlike me. Based on my few posts though if Makar had been available I would've picked him.

 

 

This is what I had to say about the Virtanen draft and picking Ehlers:

 

Im a little warmer to the idea of drafting Virtanen. It's not because he has a great shot, skating or tenacity. The main reason I pick Virtanen over the other prospects is that I see him at worst a really good 3rd line hockey player but most likely an upside of 2nd line winger, MAYBE a 1st line winger...hence a really safe pick. Also what intrigues me the most is that he is one of the youngest of his draft class and will have ample time to hone his skill. I think Virtanen is maybe more of a project than some of the other prospects, and I expect him to take minimum 3 years to make it to the NHL and should not be rushed. I still think his potential upside is less than Ehlers and comparable with Ritchie but is most likely the safest pick of the three.

 

I pick Ehlers if I want the most exciting game-breaker and score 70 + points. He will instantly increase the speed of the team and would likely be the team's leading scorer after the Sedins retire/fade. Would be an instant fan-favourite. On the other hand, I don't see him as a total bust but maybe 20g 20a 40 point scorer playing on second line at worst(?)

I'd like itnoted, in no way did I think Podz was going to be there at #10.  other than that, I wanted CC

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15 minutes ago, stawns said:

I'd like itnoted, in no way did I think Podz was going to be there at #10.  other than that, I wanted CC

ok noted.

and now?

you can jump in a time machine if you want to go back to change the pick - but ixnay on glimpsing into the future.

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1 minute ago, nzan said:

ok noted.

and now?

you can jump in a time machine if you want to go back to change the pick - but ixnay on glimpsing into the future.

no way I'd change the pick.  I expected Podz to go #3 and CC was the best player at #10 in that scenario, imo.

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3 hours ago, Alflives said:

9OA + OJ/Bone + Schmidt for Rhino and Risto?  

 

Seriously Alf

 

Can you tell me why you would move Rathbone, let alone our 9th for 2 guys that kill our cap, and take a 9th that could actually be the best guy in the draft?

 

Have you ever read Rathbone's reports from Harvard, and have you ever compared him with Fox, who just won the Norris? I am not saying he is Fox, but he has the 

 

potential to be a very good defenseman.

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