Nucker 67 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Once bitten... Drafted Virtanen - Ahhh! Don't draft Johnson, he's from here too! Drafted Juolevi - Ahhh! Don't draft Edvinsson or Hughes, Dmen rarely work out! I think VAN needs the most skilled player with speed there is. LYSELL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted July 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Once bitten... Drafted Virtanen - Ahhh! Don't draft Johnson, he's from here too! Drafted Juolevi - Ahhh! Don't draft Edvinsson or Hughes, Dmen rarely work out! I think VAN needs the most skilled player with speed there is. LYSELL Johnson being from here should not have anything to do with why fans don’t want to draft him. If there’s a knock on him it’s his strength, his play away from the puck, and his habit of holding onto the puck too long. Yes we need skill but we also need size and speed. As for D men not working out for us, we haven’t drafted enough in the first round over the last 20 years to even be able to claim that. We’ve drafted 3 defensemen in the first round in the last 20 years (Bourdon, Juolevi, Hughes) One of them died tragically before reaching his potential, one was a runner up for the Calder, and the other is just starting to become a regular NHLer. I don’t know how anyone can claim D men don’t work out. If anything it’s drafting forwards that hasn’t worked out for us. Smith, Umberger, White, Hodgson, Schroeder, Jensen, Gaunce, Virtanen. That’s almost half of the 19 first round picks used in that span that have either busted, refused to sign with us, or fizzled out. Edited July 7, 2021 by DeNiro 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNucks1 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Gawdzukes said: I believe he went first which was widely regarded as a big mistake. Obviously it's possible but I wouldn't go for it. Cossa is just not ranked that high and Wallstedt has been the best young Swedish goalie comparable to Kari Lehtonen. While good he's not top 10 worthy in my books. I believe Yzerman is a shrewd operator and what people see as an obvious pick will not be according to him. As a player he has played with Osgood, and Hasek, as well as running Tampa. He knows how valuable players are and unless he sees an absolute homerun I don't know that he adds a goalie without having many other pieces. I also don't see SJ going that route as they are constantly re-tooling and it appears that is their current desire as well. I guess if a team wants to build from the net out and do a proper, slow burn rebuild it may be the way to go. It just seems like a lot of risk in today's day and age. That would take a real gutsy approach. Here's to hoping! there top goalie prospect isnt going to sign with detroit so i could see it happening hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Jim needs to find the D gems in the later rounds, take the Forward at #9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Just now, NUCKER67 said: Jim needs to find the D gems in the later rounds, take the Forward at #9 The problem is we’ve had little success finding D gems in later rounds. Tryamkin, Forsling, Neill, Brisebois, Candella, Gunnarsson. That’s six 3rd-5th round picks during Bennings tenure used to try and find gems with nothing to show for it. Yes Tryamkin and Forsling can be considered good picks but ultimately they didn’t yield anything for us. It’s all about best player available. If Edvinsson is ranked just as a highly as a winger go with the D man. If anything we’ve had more success finding forwards in later rounds than defensemen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, aGENT said: Need to find our 'Seabrook'. Ceulemans? Lambos reminds me a bit of Dennis Potvin Edited July 7, 2021 by Alflives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Another good podcast clip with Will Scouch: Its a Blackhawks podcast who select 11th so they are talking about a lot of the same players as us wouldn’t waste my time listening to the last 25 min but overall a good listen 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 42 minutes ago, TNucks1 said: there top goalie prospect isnt going to sign with detroit so i could see it happening hopefully Yeah, it could cause a need but that guy wasn't a lock or anything. If I'm Stevie Yzerman I wasn't relying on that guy working out anyway so I don't know if that changes anything. It depends on the long range view I suppose. If he needs to get a goalie prospect in right now he drafts Walstedt, otherwise if he's patient (which I think he is) he drafts a player and picks up a goalie in the later rounds, and/or by trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Yeah, it could cause a need but that guy wasn't a lock or anything. If I'm Stevie Yzerman I wasn't relying on that guy working out anyway so I don't know if that changes anything. It depends on the long range view I suppose. If he needs to get a goalie prospect in right now he drafts Walstedt, otherwise if he's patient (which I think he is) he drafts a player and picks up a goalie in the later rounds, and/or by trade. Wallstedt is gone before we pick at nine. Stevie should take him. If he doesn’t SanJose will. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKNuck96 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 3 hours ago, N4ZZY said: For me, if those are the three guys that falls to us, I'm choosing Johnson, and praying to God that he works his ass off the next few years to be a Patty Kane like player for the Canucks. Patricia Kane?? I do think this draft though will be one of the least predictable in years. im not as well versed as some of the rest of you in the top picks but I’m hoping lower down we get some good picks. I do think someone like Canonica is worth a look in around the 4th round, as potentially filing in the beagle role going forward. Won’t turn many heads but as a no nonsense defensive hard grind centre might be worth looking at, especially if we can get a beagle type player but cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: Wallstedt is gone before we pick at nine. Stevie should take him. If he doesn’t SanJose will. Have another one Alf! I am! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 I've noticed that when I first started looking at the prospects (after Game 4 of the 2020 season, a 5-2 Loss to CGY), I wasn't too interested in any of them, except for maybe Power and Hughes. But now, I feel like there are 7 or 8 players that I really want, and the closer to Draft Day, the more I want "that player" in our lineup. I suspect by Draft Day, I'll be praying to the Hockey Gods for that player, heart rate at 120 after LA picks... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nurnge Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Alflives said: Ceulemans? Lambos reminds me a bit of Dennis Potvin Hughes reminds me of ME sitting on my couch watching my TV and Cheering !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) according to this we could get luke hughes at 9 scott morow at 41 roman schmidt in the 4th or so not to shabby https://thepuckauthority.com/north-american-independent-central-scouting-final-2021-rankings/ Edited July 8, 2021 by Bertuzzipunch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Lets play a game. Pick one.... 1 Clarke or Hughes? 2 Guenther or Johnson? 3 Beniers or Eklund? 4 Lysell or Lucius? 5 Svechkov or Raty 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, hammertime said: Lets play a game. Pick one.... 1 Clarke or Hughes? 2 Guenther or Johnson? 3 Beniers or Eklund? 4 Lysell or Lucius? 5 Svechkov or Raty Hughes Johnson Eklund Lysol Raty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Clarke Guenther Beniers Lysell Raty 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, hammertime said: Lets play a game. Pick one.... 1 Clarke or Hughes? 2 Guenther or Johnson? 3 Beniers or Eklund? 4 Lysell or Lucius? 5 Svechkov or Raty Tough but: 1. Clarke 2. Guenther 3. Eklund 4. Lysell 5. Svechkov 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beary Sweet Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 hours ago, hammertime said: Lets play a game. Pick one.... 1 Clarke or Hughes? 2 Guenther or Johnson? 3 Beniers or Eklund? 4 Lysell or Lucius? 5 Svechkov or Raty Clarke Guenther Eklund Lysell Raty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 hours ago, hammertime said: Lets play a game. Pick one.... 1 Clarke or Hughes? 2 Guenther or Johnson? 3 Beniers or Eklund? 4 Lysell or Lucius? 5 Svechkov or Raty Hughes neither Beniers neither Svechkov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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