Herberts Vasiljevs Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Imagine Lysell at 5 to CBJ. That would be one of those "WTFFFF!!!!!!!" moments where I spring off my couch and do a couple laps around the coffee table. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Bure_Pavel said: Hate to say it but I don't think Podkolzin wouldn't go top 5 in a re-draft for 2019. Id say Podkolzin at 10 is fair value. In three years Pods will be viewed as a steal at 10. Why would any Canucks fan predict our young players will be crap? That’s what other teams’ fans would do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: Imagine Lysell at 5 to CBJ. That would be one of those "WTFFFF!!!!!!!" moments where I spring off my couch and do a couple laps around the coffee table. Lysell might have top five skill, but his red flag is his heart. Does he have the character to play in the harder NHL, where he will be a target of some violent competition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, hammertime said: I'm assuming Will pick = Who Scouch would pick Gut pick = Who he thinks will(LOL) be picked. when it comes to the canucks always trust yer gut. I agree. The "gut" picks are more like his actual mock (or at least that's how I interpret it). According to his mock, we'd have the choice between Edvinsson and McTavish. There would be some interesting discussions about that one at the draft table... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Alflives said: Lysell might have top five skill, but his red flag is his heart. Does he have the character to play in the harder NHL, where he will be a target of some violent competition? I don't think his heart is an issue (AT ALL). Not sure where people were getting that from.... From what I understand, his so-called "character issues" stem from him not wanting to play U20 hockey in Sweden, because he wanted to show what he could do against grown men in Sweden. Why's that a problem? And his on-ice play certainly doesn't indicate lack of heart. Edited July 14, 2021 by Herberts Vasiljevs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pazura92 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: I don't think his heart is an issue (AT ALL). Not sure where people were getting that from.... From what I understand, his so-called "character issues" stem from him not wanting to play U20 hockey in Sweden, because he wanted to show what he could do against grown men in Sweden. Why's that a problem? And his on-ice play certainly doesn't indicate lack of heart. This! people really need to start reading and doing some research before posting and not just going off of what they read on this forum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Pazura92 said: This! people really need to start reading and doing some research before posting and not just going off of what they read on this forum Lysol is compared to Mitch Marner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: I agree. The "gut" picks are more like his actual mock (or at least that's how I interpret it). According to his mock, we'd have the choice between Edvinsson and McTavish. There would be some interesting discussions about that one at the draft table... I mean its the same discussion we have all been having for months I'm sure if we are discussing it at nauseum they have their choice made by now. 1 McT Clear #1 choice to me. 2 Lysell/Svechkov Best fit for our core 3 Guenther/Johnson Can argue BPA Edvinsson I would implicitly trust my scouts he could be the highest reward player. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, Alflives said: In three years Pods will be viewed as a steal at 10. Why would any Canucks fan predict our young players will be crap? That’s what other teams’ fans would do. Its not that anyone is thinkin Podkolzin is crap, 2019 is just shaping up to be a very strong draft year especially from the top 10 picks. Guys like Hughes, Kakko, Dach, Cozens, Seider, Byram, Zegras, Caufield look to be on their way to be top players for their teams. Other guys like Newhook, Turcotte, and Krebs are developing nicely as well. I think 8-12 spot in a re-draft is fair depending on opinion. Hoglander could past Podkolzin in a re-draft ranking soon as well. Hoglander is third in NHL goals scored from this draft behind only Kakko and Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: Its not that anyone is thinkin Podkolzin is crap, 2019 is just shaping up to be a very strong draft year especially from the top 10 picks. Guys like Hughes, Kakko, Dach, Cozens, Seider, Byram, Zegras, Caufield look to be on their way to be top players for their teams. Other guys like Newhook, Turcotte, and Krebs are developing nicely as well. I think 8-12 spot in a re-draft is fair depending on opinion. Hoglander could past Podkolzin in a re-draft ranking soon as well. Hoglander is third in NHL goals scored from this draft behind only Kakko and Hughes. As a fan it’s the hope for a better future that’s our focus, right? Saying all these other teams’ prospects are better than our guy is what another team’s fan will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: Hate to say it but I don't think Podkolzin wouldn't go top 5 in a re-draft for 2019. Id say Podkolzin at 10 is fair value. I just recall that Podkolzin was supposed to go Top 3 (as he was the BPA), but for whatever reason (wanting to play in Russia for 2 more years?) Podkolzin dropped in the rankings and VAN got lucky. I guess we'll see in a few years. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Herberts Vasiljevs Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, Alflives said: Lysol is compared to Mitch Marner. The Marner comparisons are about how he holds on to the puck in the o-zone and distributes it to his teammates, and not about how he chokes/cries during the playoffs. In fact, his heart aspect of the game is compared to that of Hoglander with his "dog on bone" approach. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sp3nny Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I just recall that Podkolzin was supposed to go Top 3 (as he was the BPA), but for whatever reason (wanting to play in Russia for 2 more years?) Podkolzin dropped in the rankings and VAN got lucky. I guess we'll see in a few years. Podkolzin was a little bit like Raty this year, in that he looked dominant early (U18 Hlinka especially 5GP-8G-11P) which raised his stock a lot, but then his other numbers were more average to slightly poor. Many questioned and still question his offensive upside, and for good reason, as he doesn't have dominant numbers anywhere else. However, Pod has a lot more to his game than offense, which is why he was still picked top 10. He is a great player overall, but I personally don't think he only dropped cause of the "Russian Factor", there were concerns offensively as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 35 minutes ago, hammertime said: I mean its the same discussion we have all been having for months I'm sure if we are discussing it at nauseum they have their choice made by now. 1 McT Clear #1 choice to me. 2 Lysell/Svechkov Best fit for our core 3 Guenther/Johnson Can argue BPA Edvinsson I would implicitly trust my scouts he could be the highest reward player. Yeah, that interesting discussions at the draft table comment was more so a figure of speech. I have no doubt that they already know which of the two players they prefer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Off_The_Schneid! Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 Compiled first round https://t.co/wRLz940OOO 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: Compiled first round https://t.co/wRLz940OOO If we get MacT I’m thinking most here will be very happy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Herberts Vasiljevs Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Alflives said: If we get MacT I’m thinking most here will be very happy. I certainly would. There's a list of a few guys I would be very happy with, and the chances are we're picking one of them at 9. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Just now, Herberts Vasiljevs said: I certainly would. There's a list of a few guys I would be very happy with, and the chances are we're picking one of them at 9. I’m thinking we are likely to draft one of: MacT, Johnson, Lysell. And I’d be happy with any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Alflives said: I’m thinking we are likely to draft one of: MacT, Johnson, Lysell. And I’d be happy with any of them. Any of them would be perfect fits as far as I'm concerned. Edited July 14, 2021 by Herberts Vasiljevs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: I certainly would. There's a list of a few guys I would be very happy with, and the chances are we're picking one of them at 9. I would be extremely happy with McTavish, Eklund, Guenther, Johnson, Power, Clarke, Hughes. Also wouldn't be upset with Svechkov, Lucious, Sillinger, or Lysell. Damn, so excited if we add one of these guys. C'mon JB if you're reading here I've given you 11 players so you gotta get one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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