2021 NHL Entry Draft

[KirkSave]

50 minutes ago, shayster007 said:

Any guy in peticular you got your eye on at 9? I got my fingers crossed one of the D or Dylan Guenther slip. That would be huge.

Honestly, if Clarke slips to us that would be nice but Johnson apparently has the highest ceiling skill wise of this draft class. And Mactavish has an enticing well rounded game. If we were able to get any one of these gems, I'd be stoked but full disclosure, when we drafted Petey I had never heard of him and what a home run that turned out to be, so whoever we get in the 1st round should be a stud! 

[MeanSeanBean]

Just now, KirkSave said:

Honestly, if Clarke slips to us that would be nice but Johnson apparently has the highest ceiling skill wise of this draft class. And Mactavish has an enticing well rounded game. If we were able to get any one of these gems, I'd be stoked but full disclosure, when we drafted Petey I had never heard of him and what a home run that turned out to be, so whoever we get in the 1st round should be a stud! 

I was all about McTavish a couple months ago, but I really don't think he will be there at 9, so I moved on. Clarke would be best case scenario for our postitial needs.

 

I was all aboard the Glass train Peteys year. Hindsight, eh?

[JM_]

2 hours ago, Patrik Laine said:

He made a statement. What else can he do give money to unicef? 

cool a statement. Man thats really impressive. 

[JM_]

1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

I'd still be ok with the Nucks drafting him, but I sure can't abide someone defending that knowing it could be my niece or daughters video being shown off without her consent or permission.

Not me. There's so many things prospects have to overcome to become good players, lets not pick one thats demonstrated some really bad judgment and from what I've seen on it, hasn't done much to make up for it yet. Maybe he will someday. 

 

Given how hard it is to judge prospects this draft I'd rather reach for a high character kid than one we know has issues. 

[Bertuzzipunch]

Hmm

 

 

[Hogs & Podz]

2 hours ago, Marv-the-wet-bandit said:

My son is only 2 so he’s a long way off from dealing with girls, but when he is of that age I’d be devastated to find out he did something like that. Those pictures need to be taken with consent of both parties and stay private. Your answer here is phenomenal and although I’m not into having the Canucks draft him I absolutely respect your position on it and you being fine with them drafting him because you know how wrong it is and aren’t just sweeping his action under the rug. I don’t think he’s a lost cause and has plenty of time to redeem himself but what an awful and stupid thing to do for the young man 

I have two grown boys.... They are both gentlemen.  I can't say the same for myself when I was younger.  It was a different time, I wasn't not a gentlemen per say but definitely not respectful at times.  Yes it was a sign if the times but also how I was raised.  My father wasn't a good partner to my mom or his other girlfriends.  As a result, he's on his own and probably should be.  I have learned along the way and have become a very good loving consistent partner... My boys though men now, see this and we all hold a lot of mutual respect for each other.  I am blessed, but I worked on it, and still do.  My boys see this, and the results are obvious by seeing how they conduct themselves with there partners and with others.  I'm very proud of them. 

Anyway, my point is, you son watch's your actions and pays attention to your every word... Way more then we may be aware of... Especially the stuff we try to hide from them.... They see or feel these things.  If you can practice what you preach and follow through with your words.... But most importantly treat your wife girlfriend, mother of your child or children, your mother, grandmother... All women you associate with the respect and compassion they deserve, then you will raise a gentlemen 99% of the time.  

Edited July 20, 2021 by Hogs & Podz

[Marv-the-wet-bandit]

13 minutes ago, Hogs & Podz said:

I have two grown boys.... They are both gentlemen.  I can't say the same for myself when I was younger.  It was a different time, I wasn't not a gentlemen per say but definitely not respectful at times.  Yes it was a sign if the times but also how I was raised.  My father wasn't a good partner to my mom or his other girlfriends.  As a result, he's on his own and probably should be.  I have learned along the way and have become a very good loving consistent partner... My boys though men now, see this and we all hold a lot of mutual respect for each other.  I am blessed, but I worked on it, and still do.  My boys see this, and the results are obvious by seeing how they conduct themselves with there partners and with others.  I'm very proud of them. 

Anyway, my point is, you son watch's your actions and pays attention to your every word... Way more then we may be aware of... Especially the stuff we try to hide from them.... They see or feel these things.  If you can practice what you preach and follow through with your words.... But most importantly treat your wife girlfriend, mother of your child or children, your mother, grandmother... All women you associate with then you will raise a gentlemen 99% of the time.  

I made mistakes when I was younger with women but I learned from my mistakes. My son won’t hear me say a bad word about women and just sees me treat them with utter respect, He will be a great man I have no doubt about that. I’m being the example I needed when I was younger. I’m not worried about him

[Hogs & Podz]

17 minutes ago, Marv-the-wet-bandit said:

I made mistakes when I was younger with women but I learned from my mistakes. My son won’t hear me say a bad word about women and just sees me treat them with utter respect, He will be a great man I have no doubt about that. I’m being the example I needed when I was younger. I’m not worried about him

Really happy to hear how you are with your family.... Like you say, you should have nothing to worry about.  Keep it going.... We need more gentlemen in this at times messed up world!

[R3aL]

8 hours ago, Alflives said:

I just can’t see Clarke falling to 9.  If it does great!  Take him for sure.  Hughes is so young still.  He’s nearly a full year younger than most of those other players.  I think he’s going to improve the most of that group because he’s still got so much maturing left to do.  Love to get him too!  Damn, so excited for Friday!  

I agree but Quinn Hughes should not have fallen to us at 7 no way.

 

so who knows! 
 

me too I’m with you!!!! So excited 

[HighOnHockey]

Think I caught a bit of the heat stroke this morning and spent the day in bed. Now I'm awake tonight so figure I'd do something fun. Expectations for next season for some of the top 2021 prospects. To be specific, this is what I would want to see from each player to indicate they are on track to eventually reaching their ceiling.

 

Owen Power: 30 points in 80 games NHL. Or a p/g NCAA.

Matt Beniers: 40 points in 30 games NCAA, 10 in 7 WJC.

William Eklund: 45 in 40 SHL, 15 in 7 WJC (he hasn't played much C lately, but Holtz-Eklund-Raymond could eat the tournament alive).

Dylan Guenther 105 in 50 WHL, 7 in 7 WJC.

Luke Hughes: 25 in 30 NCAA, 5 in 7 WJC.

Brandt Clarke: 60 in 50 OHL, 6 in 7 WJC.

Simon Edvinsson: 10 in 40, 4 in 7 WJC.

Mason McTavish: 80 in 50 OHL, 7 in 7 WJC.

Kent Johsnon: 45 in 30 NCAA, 12 in 7 WJC.

Chaz Lucius: 40 in 30 NCAA, 8 in 7 WJC.

Cole Sillinger: 90 in 50 WHL, 6 in 7 WJC.

Fyodor Svechkov: 15 in 40 KHL, 7 in 7 WJC.

Edited July 20, 2021 by HighOnHockey

[Bertuzzipunch]

Cant wait till we add all the new prospects with their own thread this weekend in this part of the forum

[ShawnAntoski]

41 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said:

Cant wait till we add all the new prospects with their own thread this weekend in this part of the forum

Only a few days left, till the drafts !

Edited July 20, 2021 by ShawnAntoski

[filthycanuck]

On 7/14/2021 at 12:32 PM, Bure_Pavel said:

Its not that anyone is thinkin Podkolzin is crap, 2019 is just shaping up to be a very strong draft year especially from the top 10 picks. Guys like Hughes, Kakko, Dach, Cozens, Seider, Byram, Zegras, Caufield look to be on their way to be top players for their teams. Other guys like Newhook, Turcotte, and Krebs are developing nicely as well. I think 8-12 spot in a re-draft is fair depending on opinion. Hoglander could past Podkolzin in a re-draft ranking soon as well. Hoglander is third in NHL goals scored from this draft behind only Kakko and Hughes.   

Team USA is looking really good going forward, the American talent in that draft, damn! I think Podkolzin will be fine, people should temper their expectations though on what hes going to do for us this season. If he plays in all key situations and hes got 15 goals, or about 30 pts, thats good enough for me. If he helps us win games thats all that matters

[filthycanuck]

7 hours ago, shayster007 said:

Any guy in peticular you got your eye on at 9? I got my fingers crossed one of the D or Dylan Guenther slip. That would be huge.

Kent Johnson looks like the safe pick but Guenther has more upside so I'd be happy with either or, of course would be great if Brandt Clarke fell to us. I have this really really bad hunch about Mason McTavish. He has Max Domi written all over him. Pretty good for a couple of years and then a nosedive

[filthycanuck]

15 hours ago, Alflives said:

And Clarke and Hughes at 7 and 8.  If Detroit or SanJose go Wallstedt, the we might actually see Hughes or Clarke fall to us.  

Id honestly be ok if Benning were to somehow jump to a few spots to grab Luke to swap picks a 2nd rounder with either Gadj or Lind.

[Hogs & Podz]

8 minutes ago, filthycanuck said:

Team USA is looking really good going forward, the American talent in that draft, damn! I think Podkolzin will be fine, people should temper their expectations though on what hes going to do for us this season. If he plays in all key situations and hes got 15 goals, or about 30 pts, thats good enough for me. If he helps us win games thats all that matters

Shoot!  I'd be very happy if Podz got 30 points this year.  I don't think many here expect him to produce much point wise this year anyway.  I would be ecstatic if he reaches more than 65 points in any season.

[Hogs & Podz]

10 minutes ago, filthycanuck said:

Kent Johnson looks like the safe pick but Guenther has more upside so I'd be happy with either or, of course would be great if Brandt Clarke fell to us. I have this really really bad hunch about Mason McTavish. He has Max Domi written all over him. Pretty good for a couple of years and then a nosedive

How does he look like a safe pick to you?  I assume you believe his skill set will translate over well?  What happens when he finds that he has less space and time and can't dangle around everyone?  My question about Johnson is, does he have the high hockey IQ?  Peteys does and that's why he can adjust.  To the elite nhl forwards and D that have a game plan to play him.  Look at Johnny hockey... Amazing skill, undersized and still very effective... Until the book was out on him and now he isn't nearly as effective as he was years past.  You have to adapt, especially if you're undersized.  I get a Johnny hockey vibe... Maybe a better attitude but nevertheless, if he doesn't have the IQ, he will fade away a few years down the line. 

[filthycanuck]

10 minutes ago, Hogs & Podz said:

Shoot!  I'd be very happy if Podz got 30 points this year.  I don't think many here expect him to produce much point wise this year anyway.  I would be ecstatic if he reaches more than 65 points in any season.

Maybe in a few years. Our calder candidate streak is BOUND to end sometime so Im keeping my expectations low

[filthycanuck]

2 minutes ago, Hogs & Podz said:

How does he look like a safe pick to you?  I assume you believe his skill set will translate over well?  What happens when he finds that he has less space and time and can't dangle around everyone?  My question about Johnson is, does he have the high hockey IQ?  Peteys does and that's why he can adjust.  To the elite nhl forwards and D that have a game plan to play him.  Look at Johnny hockey... Amazing skill, undersized and still very effective... Until the book was out on him and now he isn't nearly as effective as he was years past.  You have to adapt, especially if you're undersized.  I get a Johnny hockey vibe... Maybe a better attitude but nevertheless, if he doesn't have the IQ, he will fade away a few years down the line. 

His speed will translate in the big league. Thats the thing that stands out to me, is he going to score 30 goals? Hes got the talent to do it but having great wheels can make him a roster player, being effective forechecking, getting loose pucks etc. think Kyle Palmieri. Gaudreau has great hands but hes not exactly a burner add to him being undersized.

[Wolfgang Durst]

8 hours ago, Hogs & Podz said:

Really happy to hear how you are with your family.... Like you say, you should have nothing to worry about.  Keep it going.... We need more gentlemen in this at times messed up world!

Logan Mailloux acting as a gentlemen:

 

 

Regarding gentleman: Do you consider Nikita Kucherov being a gentleman? I assume you have watched this video after the Lightning won the cup.