smithers joe Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 5, 9, 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, HighOnHockey said: Just to add to that, it was a pretty rough transition period to the pros - not to mention he also made the jump mid-season, with the rest of the league in mid-season form and he hadnt played in 9 months - and he went pointless through his first 8 games, 1 point in his first 12. So its been 15 in his last 18, and 14 in 14. He was also -5 through those first 12, and then +11 through the last 14. I saw breakout footage too where he evaded and broke away from forecheckers clean like Quinn Hughes almost. as a kid against pro men it was impressive to me to see. love the numbers you just shared. i don’t wanna get too pumped on him cause I think he’s going to go high and after beating Edmonton today we probably will be going into the lottery at 9. Can’t imagine us not winning a game in last three vs Calgary. i don’t see Clarke slipping to 9. my internet research / gut feeling ranking on these kids: 1. Clarke 2. Hughes 3. Eklund 4. Power 5. Benier 6. McTavish 7. Guenther 8. Edvinsson 9. L’Heureux 10. Johnson but I know nothing! really only want Clarke or Hughes but whoever we get hope they end up being the best player available or wait I’ll be greedy.. hope they the best of class! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Would be very cool to see Quinn announce that the Canucks are taking Luke but I don’t see it happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Would be very cool to see Quinn announce that the Canucks are taking Luke but I don’t see it happening. That couldve happened if we didnt win today and lost the next 3 to calgary as we would be picking ahead of NJD. Not anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, DontMessMe said: That couldve happened if we didnt win today and lost the next 3 to calgary as we would be picking ahead of NJD. Not anymore Aren’t New Jersey slated to pick 4th? They’ll likely slide to 5th so I doubt Hughes is even there. Doubt we could draft him unless we won the 2nd overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, R3aL said: I saw breakout footage too where he evaded and broke away from forecheckers clean like Quinn Hughes almost. as a kid against pro men it was impressive to me to see. love the numbers you just shared. i don’t wanna get too pumped on him cause I think he’s going to go high and after beating Edmonton today we probably will be going into the lottery at 9. Can’t imagine us not winning a game in last three vs Calgary. i don’t see Clarke slipping to 9. my internet research / gut feeling ranking on these kids: 1. Clarke 2. Hughes 3. Eklund 4. Power 5. Benier 6. McTavish 7. Guenther 8. Edvinsson 9. L’Heureux 10. Johnson but I know nothing! really only want Clarke or Hughes but whoever we get hope they end up being the best player available or wait I’ll be greedy.. hope they the best of class! We NEED Edvinsson or Power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, HighOnHockey said: Just to add to that, it was a pretty rough transition period to the pros - not to mention he also made the jump mid-season, with the rest of the league in mid-season form and he hadnt played in 9 months - and he went pointless through his first 8 games, 1 point in his first 12. So its been 15 in his last 18, and 14 in 14. He was also -5 through those first 12, and then +11 through the last 14. Ya my first impression was not good he was out of sync and all over the ice . However I continued to watch him and as he settled down letting the game come to him and strated to mesh with his team he quickly layed my worries to rest and has become my #1 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: Would be very cool to see Quinn announce that the Canucks are taking Luke but I don’t see it happening. No thanks to Hughes, if they pick a dman, they need some size and grit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, hammertime said: Ya my first impression was not good he was out of sync and all over the ice . However I continued to watch him and as he settled down letting the game come to him and strated to mesh with his team he quickly layed my worries to rest and has become my #1 pick. Yeah I remember us discussing this. It's funny, because I had the opposite first impression. I saw him at U17s, and you know how it is with those international tournaments, especially when it's your first viewing on most of the kids, you're trying to watch a little bit of everyone. And what I remembered seeing from Clarke was mainly just a really good two-way defenseman. Then I watched one of his very first games in Extraliga where he was just trying to find his his place and earn minutes, so he was still playing things pretty safe. So around the time you and I first started discussing the player, we had drastically different takes. This is why I always emphasize it is so, so important to watch prospects in as many different situations as possible. Mukhamadullin from last year's draft is the perfect example of this. I remember watching him as an underage defenseman at U18s, then Hlinkas, then WJAC, and I saw an elite pure stay-at-home shutdown defenseman. Then I started seeing media scouting services talk about him as an offensive defenseman, and people criticise him for making too many bad turnovers and such. And I was simply dumbfounded, because the player I saw so many times would flip the puck into an empty space in the neutral zone or off the glass before he would ever turn it over. But then I watched him in the MHL and I understood. As an underager playing for his country he was completely committed to a team concept and just fulfilling his role. But in the MHL where he was counted on to be "the guy", he was all over the place, trying to make all kinds of plays. The story is a little different with Clarke, but in his first few games in Slovakia he was full-out benched a couple times early, to the tune of games of 3:28 and 10:52. So he knew he needed to buckle down and play the team system first, but on the other hand, he also knew he needed to put up numbers if he was going to be considered a first overall pick, so he had a bit of a line to juggle, and around that 10 game mark he was really forcing things. Anyways, what so amazed me, and cemented him as the top prospect of the draft in my eyes, was the way he so quickly was able to settle down and find that balance between being a reliable two-way pro defenseman, and then also being an gamebreaking puck-rusher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) Man I’m liking a lot of these top 15 prospects. Currently loving me some Lysell... kids got a lot of Hoglander feels... better shot tho Edited May 16, 2021 by 70seven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krinjer33 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 I think we steer clear of drafting Luke Hughes, unless he is the best player available at our pick. But I wouldn’t target him just because he’s Quinn’s brother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Win the lottery and take Clarke or Power. Come on guys we got this!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 3 hours ago, morrissex95 said: We NEED Edvinsson or Power I’m not convinced with my internet knowledge and gut feeling on them. if they the bpa when we pick and we take em awesome! Craig has them very high in his list and Power seems to be as close to a consensus first as there is. From what I’ve seen / read and gut feel I think Clarke is the best dman in the draft and I would take Hughes over edvinsson or power just because We basically know what Luke Hughes is going to be in 2/3 years. I’m very convinced Luke Hughes is going to be a very good nhl dman and the idea of always having 1 of: Q hughes L hughes rathbone sounds great to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, R3aL said: I’m not convinced with my internet knowledge and gut feeling on them. if they the bpa when we pick and we take em awesome! Craig has them very high in his list and Power seems to be as close to a consensus first as there is. From what I’ve seen / read and gut feel I think Clarke is the best dman in the draft and I would take Hughes over edvinsson or power just because We basically know what Luke Hughes is going to be in 2/3 years. I’m very convinced Luke Hughes is going to be a very good nhl dman and the idea of always having 1 of: Q hughes L hughes rathbone sounds great to me. Luke Hughes doesn't have a strong enough defensive game like Edvinsson. Edvinsson would jive well with our other young swedes like Pettersson and Hoglander. Next year, we get a center or a winger high up in the draft. We get Eriksson, Roussel, Beagle, Virtanen and Luongo all off the books. Our only bad contracts left are Ferland and Myers. Part of drafting is planning where the player fits in long-term. We need to pick a defender and there's only one righty in the top 10. Chances are, we'll be getting a lefty and I'll pray that it isn't Lambos because he'll take years to develop like Juolevi did. My D ranking is: Power Edvinsson L. Hughes Clarke Lambos We can't pick Luke just because he's Quinn's bro. Furthermore, New Jersey isn't going to trade one of their best players just because two of his brothers are on our team (I saw someone suggest this earlier. Not directing this at the quoted post.) Did New York trade Marc Staal to Carolina for Jordan and Eric? Did NYI trade R. Strome to Arizona for Dylan? Did Buffalo trade Marcus Foligno to Columbus? Did the Blues trade Jordan Schmaltz to Chicago to play with brother Nick? Did the Sabres trade Alex Nylander to Toronto to play with William? Need I go on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, morrissex95 said: Luke Hughes doesn't have a strong enough defensive game like Edvinsson. Edvinsson would jive well with our other young swedes like Pettersson and Hoglander. Next year, we get a center or a winger high up in the draft. We get Eriksson, Roussel, Beagle, Virtanen and Luongo all off the books. Our only bad contracts left are Ferland and Myers. Part of drafting is planning where the player fits in long-term. We need to pick a defender and there's only one righty in the top 10. Chances are, we'll be getting a lefty and I'll pray that it isn't Lambos because he'll take years to develop like Juolevi did. My D ranking is: Power Edvinsson L. Hughes Clarke Lambos We can't pick Luke just because he's Quinn's bro. Furthermore, New Jersey isn't going to trade one of their best players just because two of his brothers are on our team (I saw someone suggest this earlier. Not directing this at the quoted post.) Did New York trade Marc Staal to Carolina for Jordan and Eric? Did NYI trade R. Strome to Arizona for Dylan? Did Buffalo trade Marcus Foligno to Columbus? Did the Blues trade Jordan Schmaltz to Chicago to play with brother Nick? Did the Sabres trade Alex Nylander to Toronto to play with William? Need I go on? Ya hope that entire brother bit you went on about had nothing to do with what I said lolz Other than that fair points and could very well be the best dmen available I don’t know. I acknowledged they could be the best for sure and lots of scouts rankinga have them high. With most having power at 1 i see more Myers then I see hedman from the Very little I’ve seen of the big swede me liking Luke has nothing to do with being Quinn’s brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: Win the lottery and take Clarke or Power. Come on guys we got this!!! If we were ever to win the lottery I wish it would be bedard year. But if we were to ever win one it would honestly be this year where it holds the least importance maybe ever in nhl draft history lmao 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 minute ago, R3aL said: Ya hope that entire brother bit you went on about had nothing to do with what I said lolz Other than that fair points and could very well be the best dmen available I don’t know. I acknowledged they could be the best for sure and lots of scouts rankinga have them high. With most having power at 1 i see more Myers then I see hedman from the Very little I’ve seen of the big swede me liking Luke has nothing to do with being Quinn’s brother. Yeah I think Edvinsson is comparable to a guy like Ristolainen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, morrissex95 said: Did New York trade Marc Staal to Carolina for Jordan and Eric? Did NYI trade R. Strome to Arizona for Dylan? Did Buffalo trade Marcus Foligno to Columbus? Did the Blues trade Jordan Schmaltz to Chicago to play with brother Nick? Did the Sabres trade Alex Nylander to Toronto to play with William? Need I go on? But... Buuuuuuttt Brian Burke drafted the Sedin twins together 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 minute ago, DontMessMe said: But... Buuuuuuttt Brian Burke drafted the Sedin twins together That was about chemistry not about the fact that they're brothers as I'm sure you're aware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 hour ago, morrissex95 said: That was about chemistry not about the fact that they're brothers as I'm sure you're aware Tyler Seguin had a diff explanation on offer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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