kesler_sedins Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Found this Hyundai commercial with Nate Schmidt when he was in Vegas! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougieL Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 23 hours ago, N4ZZY said: haha. why can't our forwards make the jobs of their defenseman easier? LOL Playing with good players typically makes one's job easier. Is this a novel concept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 On 2/11/2021 at 11:33 PM, dougieL said: Playing with good players typically makes one's job easier. Is this a novel concept? I mean, we got some pretty good players. Horvat, Pettersson, Miller, Pearson, Hughes, Höglander, etc. They're not all bad. Defensively, yes, not as good for sure a little lacking. The team's systems, or the players haven't bought in for whatever reason, but it's not because of a lack of talent. This team has talent and game changing ability. They're just not playing like a team. Schmidt should be playing better. Our forwards for all of their talent, should be playing better. This team shouldn't be at 6-11 - hopefully not 6-12 by this time tomorrow. If they are 6-12 by this time tomorrow, I think change is coming. Someone's getting fired. It's almost next to impossible to recover from being 6 games under .500 in a really difficult division this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 How many games need a defenceplayer worth 6 million need to look great on the ice? Tanev slipped in nicely beside Hanifin in Flames. Is that because Tanev is a better defence player than Schmidt or because his surrounding players is better or because coaches strategies are better or because... How much cost a defence player that shows instantly that he's a great player when playing with the Canucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Still very unconvinced overall of Schmidt's play. Not writing him off, but that brutal own goal is making it hard to be excited about him and his long term with this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 This guy was on the top pair play against the highest QoC on one of the best teams in the NHL last season. Comes here and looks like an average top 4 guy. Is it the player or something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Also, I feel like we're not taking advantage of having two LHD on the right side. It opens such a great opportunity for one timers in the offensive zone but it seems like we never take many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, MrCanuck94 said: This guy was on the top pair play against the highest QoC on one of the best teams in the NHL last season. Comes here and looks like an average top 4 guy. Is it the player or something else? He was put into a 5v5 match up role with McNabb. Now he's giving up the puck at a higher rate than he was with Vegas/Caps. Perhaps he isn't a good fit with Edler. Perhaps the team's systems we play don't suit him. Perhaps he needs a better fit for a partner. Perhaps it's a combination of these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Watching him in Washington and Vegas, he played in solid teams with solid structure and often had a pretty decent partner. Now he's all over the place but it was from day 1 - not connecting on passes, boggling pucks and just looking a bit sluggish. I wonder if this was all more due to the lack of preparation and now exhaustion than a different system, but he's still struggling in Baumer's defensive system (as all of our defenders are). It's a hard system to play when there's zero support but even that aside, he's looked bad at times. Certainly not worth his money which is a shame because up until this season, on paper he's far superior all-around to Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 8 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Watching him in Washington and Vegas, he played in solid teams with solid structure and often had a pretty decent partner. Now he's all over the place but it was from day 1 - not connecting on passes, boggling pucks and just looking a bit sluggish. I wonder if this was all more due to the lack of preparation and now exhaustion than a different system, but he's still struggling in Baumer's defensive system (as all of our defenders are). It's a hard system to play when there's zero support but even that aside, he's looked bad at times. Certainly not worth his money which is a shame because up until this season, on paper he's far superior all-around to Tanev. Congrats has to go out to JB again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaramel MacKhiato Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I still want to see him with Hughes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTavares Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Honestly, saying Schmidt is our second most important defensemen on our team is not an indictment of his ability, but lack of quality defensemen this organization has. Both Hughes and Myers have been arguably better. Edler has been just as good as Schmidt by almost any metric out there, so the narrative that Schmidt is carrying the pairing really doesn’t hold. Schmidt leads the team with 23 giveaways, second most with 17 (Myers). Schmidt had 39 giveaways in only 59 games last year. All this along with 0 offensive production. Schmidt hasn’t been god awful, but he certainly hasn’t been great. Schmidt’s been an average top 4 defenseman so far - certainly not worth the $6M price tag. It’s possible the media overhyped him too much. His advanced stats weren’t actually relatively good in Vegas... Vegas is a possession juggernaut that dominated teams day in and day out, thus propping his numbers up. He had negative CF% and FF% during his 3 year tenure in Vegas. I think the BenningBros and media shills were jumping the gun on saying he was a surefire top pairing dman. He’s surpassed 72 games once. He’s never surpassed 36 points in his career. He’s scored only 3 powerplay goals in his career. His shooting percentages when he scored 7 and 9 goals respectively were way higher than career average. He’s a #3/4 being paid $6M right now... not a great use of cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Blankenship Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 15 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Watching him in Washington and Vegas, he played in solid teams with solid structure and often had a pretty decent partner. Now he's all over the place but it was from day 1 - not connecting on passes, boggling pucks and just looking a bit sluggish. I wonder if this was all more due to the lack of preparation and now exhaustion than a different system, but he's still struggling in Baumer's defensive system (as all of our defenders are). It's a hard system to play when there's zero support but even that aside, he's looked bad at times. Certainly not worth his money which is a shame because up until this season, on paper he's far superior all-around to Tanev. I don’t think it’s coincidence that we’ve been one of the worst defensive teams while baumer has been here. There’s a reason we look pretty good on paper but look like trash at times on the ice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I am looking forward to seeing how Jett Woo's season unfolds. So far he has been looking very good in Utica. Utica plays tonight at 4pm PST. I will watch Utica first and then just slide in for the Nucks game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) Smitty is finally looking like he is starting to fit in. His play has been rather underwhelming to start the season, but with a new team, no preseason, almost no training camp, and no time to practice or rest, that was an easily foreseeable situation. We are seeing more and more of the top quality Dman we traded for as he gets more comfortable with his new team. I have to to laugh at the posters on this page who are whining about his play and his salary, taking their last chance to hate on him, JB and Baumer while they still can, before he adapts to the point where whining about him becomes obvious trolling. Edited February 19, 2021 by WeneedLumme 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronic.Canuck Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 3 hours ago, WeneedLumme said: Smitty is finally looking like he is starting to fit in. His play has been rather underwhelming to start the season, but with a new team, no preseason, almost no training camp, and no time to practice or rest, that was an easily foreseeable situation. We are seeing more and more of the top quality Dman we traded for as he gets more comfortable with his new team. I have to to laugh at the posters on this page who are whining about his play and his salary, taking their last chance to hate on him, JB and Baumer while they still can, before he adapts to the point where whining about him becomes obvious trolling. Definitely agree. The last 4-5 games I've seen him make decisions quicker as he's getting used to new teammates, systems, and learning how TG wants him to play. My prediction at the start of the season was that it would take him and Holtby at least a month to settle in - I hope what we've seen from both of them recently is more indicative of their play going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Blankenship Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 3 hours ago, WeneedLumme said: Smitty is finally looking like he is starting to fit in. His play has been rather underwhelming to start the season, but with a new team, no preseason, almost no training camp, and no time to practice or rest, that was an easily foreseeable situation. We are seeing more and more of the top quality Dman we traded for as he gets more comfortable with his new team. I have to to laugh at the posters on this page who are whining about his play and his salary, taking their last chance to hate on him, JB and Baumer while they still can, before he adapts to the point where whining about him becomes obvious trolling. I agree with most of what you’re saying, though I still think Baumer has to go. Weird for people to complain about Schmidt’s play when you consider he had no camp and is on a new team, but complaints regarding our defensive play as a team are justifiable. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannydog Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 The passes he tries leaves me shaking my head occasionally. A lot of giveaways in our own zone have resulted in goals against or forcing the keepers to make incredible saves. There was a few times Petey converted those same bad passes into goals during the nucks vs vegas playoffs. Schmit openly chuckled about that in his welcome to Vancouver video. Other than that he's been a most welcome add to our blueline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dannydog said: The passes he tries leaves me shaking my head occasionally. A lot of giveaways in our own zone have resulted in goals against or forcing the keepers to make incredible saves. There was a few times Petey converted those same bad passes into goals during the nucks vs vegas playoffs. Schmit openly chuckled about that in his welcome to Vancouver video. Other than that he's been a most welcome add to our blueline. If he tried those plays in Vegas he'd get his knuckles wrapped. Different style and more suited to his game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannydog Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 He did those same passes in Vegas.. Stated in his video about playing here on the nucks , how petey made him pay a couple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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