nuckin_futz Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) Never underestimate how much someone would be willing to ride a bus for 2 years in exchange for $12 million. Regardless of how much they had already made. I have never seen a player who needed to become allergic to his equipment more than this guy. Edited October 14, 2020 by nuckin_futz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownky Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, grandmaster said: I’m quite sure other players looking to land here are not going to look at it that way. It’s no secret that LE is not a good player anymore and that he has been given more than his fair share of opportunities. Or another aspect - would you "want" to be his linemate as a FA signing? It's like that one guy at hockey who is so awful that his existence on a line makes the entire thing a black hole where the play goes to die, and every time it's a penalty kill in the D-zone just trying to put the tire fire out long enough to get a change. Nobody wants to play with that guy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) I believe someone stated that he would actually make more money in the AHL by not having to pay escrow. Who knows when an AHL season even starts, I believe it's a venture that relies heavily upon gate receipts which are going to be nil with no fans in the stands. So Loui's proposed punishment could be sitting at home, making more money than he would by playing all while still being a blight on our cap. I don't think that are going be any easy solutions to this, Benning will just have to find someone to take him if not this year then the next. Edited October 14, 2020 by Toews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) Just now, Toews said: I believe someone stated that he would actually make more money in the AHL by not having to pay escrow. Who knows when an AHL season even starts, I believe it's a venture that relies heavily upon gate receipts which are going to be nil with no fans in the stands. So Loui's proposed punishment could be sitting at home, making more money than he would by playing all while still be a blight on our cap. I don't think that are going be any easy solutions to this, Benning will just have to find someone to take him if not this year then the next. They can still buy him out during the second buyout window, I believe. I could be wrong but since Loui makes 6M or more, he should be eligible. That being said, how much benefit is there? Probably nothing since he is being paid performance bonuses. Edited October 14, 2020 by Dazzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I think that JB will have to make a business decision about Loui given the team cap situation and his declining abilities. This happens to many players in there twilight hockey years; it is not simply a Canucks issue. If he is not legitimately good enough to make the roster come the end of training camp then he should be waived to Utica if the AHL is up and running or loaned to a team in Sweden assuming they can still get some cap relief by doing that. Either way it will force Loui to make a decision on whether to report to the designated team; refuse to report and have his contract terminated so he can play elsewhere at a more reasonable contract, or retire. One way or another this Loui saga needs to come to a resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: Never underestimate how much someone would be willing to ride a bus for 2 years in exchange for $12 million. Regardless of how much they had already made. I have never seen a player who needed to become allergic to his equipment more than this guy. His actual salary after his bonus was paid is 5 mil not 12. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Dazzle said: They can still buy him out during the second buyout window, I believe. I could be wrong but since Loui makes 6M or more, he should be eligible. That being said, how much benefit is there? Probably nothing since he is being paid performance bonuses. Yeah, the last time I saw the buyout numbers, I wasn't impressed. I believe it will get easier to find someone to take him when there is only 1 year left on the contract. After the bonus gets paid, the amount owed should be small enough that a team might take a flyer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 There is no way he will retire and walk away from 4 million dollars. Give him a chance to make the team, he won't, then waive him. There is no AHL, so he just gets paid to stay home. We save a little over a million. Two years of that, then we are done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, BCNate said: There is no way he will retire and walk away from 4 million dollars. Give him a chance to make the team, he won't, then waive him. There is no AHL, so he just gets paid to stay home. We save a little over a million. Two years of that, then we are done. We are buying him out next year. Give us 2mil saving in cap space which at that point is worth the buyout. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I don't think there will be the option to send him to the A. Maybe loan him to Europe? IDK. But if he could be sent to the AHL next season I think he would be stoked, I believe that he then wouldn't have to pay into Escrow thereby making more money by being in the A than the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Shame we can't just make him disappear like Chicago did with Huet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: We are buying him out next year. Give us 2mil saving in cap space which at that point is worth the buyout. I'd be shocked if JB buys anyone out. We are in good shape cap wise after this year, no sense in dragging the bad money out into future years for minimal savings. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Should have been sent down immediately after he started moaning about Green. The message this sends is if you want to float around and not even put in the bare minimum of effort, you will be held accountable for playing like complete trash. Anyone who is dissuaded from signing here as a result of this wouldn't be a good fit anyway. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, 73 Percent said: Why not? 1 hour ago, kanucks25 said: Sure can, he only had an NMC for the first two years of his contract. I imagine the reason Benning doesn't do this is because it doesn't save much on the cap and it's not good for management/player relations. e/ They'd probably give him the option to just sit at home and collect the money instead and hope he retires out of guilt or something lol (which is doubtful). 37 minutes ago, canuktravella said: of course you can I should have added, can't outright them to the minors without a cost to the team. If it were that easy, every team would escape their poor contracts that way. So yes while it's an option, it's not very beneficial to the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, RonMexico said: I should have added, can't outright them to the minors without a cost to the team. If it were that easy, every team would escape their poor contracts that way. So yes while it's an option, it's not very beneficial to the team. It's very beneficial. They can bring in a player who isn't completely useless to take his spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sell.the.team Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I don't really buy this 'other FAs' argument.... did other FAs steer clear of NYR after the Wade Redden debacle..... no. Players go where they want to be, whether cause of money or other hockey/personal related reasons. Players understand it is a business and when your play doesn't justify an onerous contract, tough decisions need to be made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, King Heffy said: It's very beneficial. They can bring in a player who isn't completely useless to take his spot. And we'd save 1m I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 We just have to ask nicely. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Drive-By Body Pierce said: I believe burying him in the minors brings the league minimum in cap relief, and then that spot must be filled on the roster. And, burying NHL-capable players in the minors, just when you feel like you are done with them, is hardly a way to attract other talent to come play on your team as well. I honestly think there are better players to take his spot, it wouldn't just be out of spite. He needs to take a few bus rides this year. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR7 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Drive-By Body Pierce said: I believe burying him in the minors brings the league minimum in cap relief, and then that spot must be filled on the roster. And, burying NHL-capable players in the minors, just when you feel like you are done with them, is hardly a way to attract other talent to come play on your team as well. Burying him clears up 1,050,000. That could be filled by anyone under that amount and save us money. Loui has had multiple chances, he even skated with the Twin's and Petey for a few games. Been on Bo's wing more than others and cannot get going. Not sure any team or player would say that Vancouver didn't give him a chance. But if that's how some players feel, those are the players we don't want. We want the character guys that believe you earn a spot by your play, not granted one because of your pay cheque 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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