Lazurus Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) Well a new division for this year. All seven Canadian teams playing each other 7 or 8 times for the rankings. Won't be any expert opinions, just pure hard stats. This was a slip by Board of Governor Bill Foley Where do you think the Canucks will rank, with possible only 3 maybe 4 making the playoffs Farm teams will have to move as well. Where could the Comets play? Where will Vancouver rank for bragging rights? Edited October 15, 2020 by Lazurus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) At least they are being pro-active. This isn’t terrible for us, CAL and EDM already in our division but it doesn’t look like there are any bottom dwellers in Canada anymore other then OTT still, with MTL making a statement recently although I’m not sure they are really that much better. A little. TO improved slightly, no issues in the regular season. If I had to rank them as far as getting to the playoffs: CAL (Most improved) TO (Brodie...first round exit by our hands ha ha) VAN. (It’s a wash so far-core could be deadly after our run though) EDM (PP should be deadly) WNP (Should still be on top...but aren’t) MTL. (Sorry Bergevin, going all in isn’t helping you at this point - decent re-tool not enough) OTT. (One more year and skyward bound) Not sure of the final order but given our playoff I’m thinking we should be in the grouping. Things never go as predicted. CAL for sure is the most improved. Although they still have to re-sign Hamonic or one other guy. Brodie will help TO. Barrie and Bouchard could be exactly what they need on the R side. WNP probably deserves to be in the top group. MTL I’m not convinced they will win enough games but I suppose they could. OTT ha ha not yet. Given our playoffs and our bet gains and losses are a wash at this point I’d expect another progression as things are right now without any additions. Edit: Farm teams go to home cities. Play games against close rivals. Edited October 15, 2020 by IBatch 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR7 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Lazurus said: Well a new division for this year. All seven Canadian teams playing each other 7 or 8 times for the rankings. Won't be any expert opinions, just pure hard stats. This was a slip by Board of Governor Bill Foley Where do you think the Canucks will rank, with possible only 3 maybe 4 making the playoffs Farm teams will have to move as well. Where could the Comets play? Where will Vancouver rank for bragging rights? I believe I said this in another post, but during this time it would be cool to have the AHL team travel with the NHL team and play NHL opponents AHL team. This way they still get to play, also get the added benefit of training with the big club. Makes call ups easy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 This is actually a tough Division. Toronto is a good regular season team, like it or not, they will win some games and rack up some points. Calgary added Markstrom and we know Markstrom alone could steal a few more wins for them. They shouldn't be bad as well. Edmonton has a good powerplay and anytime there are McDavid and Draisiatl, they would drag some wins for them. Plus their PP should still be very deadly. Winnipeg has arguably the most complete top-6 in this Canadian Division now that they've added Statsny, their blueline could add another minute muncher, but Helleybuck will steal a lot of games for them and they should still be good. Montreal should improve with their additions. If Kotkaniemi and Suzuki continues their upward trajectory and now they actually have quality NHL caliber back-up goaltender for Price, this team can really be that dark horse to surprise people. Ottawa is likely the weakest team but they are not a push-over to play against. They should have Stuezele in the line up and a much of young guys making the jump to league, there is sure going to be some excitement for this team. On top of the fact their coach instilled them to compete night in and night out and if you take them lightly, you will lose to them. It will be a difficult division for the Canucks to play in. We have a horrible record against the Canadiens and Jets for the last few seasons. We seem to split our games against the Alberta teams evenly for the last couple of years. Toronto, hate those guys, but unfortunately, we no longer own them like we did from 2005-2013 (we won 11 straight against them in that time span). It will be a difficult division to compete in. I count 6/7 teams actually have a decent shot at making the playoffs if they remain in their respective divisions for next season, but now there are at most 5 teams will make the playoffs, so atleast 1 good team will be left behind the playoffs line. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davathor Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I love how Markstrom went from a question mark to a bonified top starter in one season. All it took was a move out of Van 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Davathor said: I love how Markstrom went from a question mark to a bonified top starter in one season. All it took was a move out of Van Markstrom was a bonified top starter in Vancouver last year, he finished 4th OA in Vezina voting. And his play really picked up since November of 2018. Ian Clark completely revamped his game and he really took of and took it to another level. You make it sound like he only improved after he left the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davathor Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 32 minutes ago, ruilin96 said: Markstrom was a bonified top starter in Vancouver last year, he finished 4th OA in Vezina voting. And his play really picked up since November of 2018. Ian Clark completely revamped his game and he really took of and took it to another level. You make it sound like he only improved after he left the Canucks. The rest of the league saw him as a question mark until this off season which coincidentally is when he left van. Way to miss the point entirely, but thanks for the paragraph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, Davathor said: The rest of the league saw him as a question mark until this off season which coincidentally is when he left van. Way to miss the point entirely, but thanks for the paragraph Don't know of many question marks making the all-star team. What on earth are you talking about... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Not sure this is good for Van..actually don't think it is. That said, this would be pretty cool, & I'd be on-board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vannuck59 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 This would be a tough Division all Canadian !!! Van would be in tough to make the top 4 need to add a top 6 winger that can score and another right Dman that can play big and mean. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) Last season our record was 5 - 10 vs the other 6 teams. Have we improved enough relative to their improvements? (Goals for: 36 ....... Goals against: 50) (Actually, I see that ruilin96 pretty much answered that a few posts above) Edited October 15, 2020 by Googlie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilgore Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 What an awesome silver lining to COVID. No other time could we watch a Canadian only competition. People are going to add points and declare a winner in the new "Canada Cup" whether its official or not. Still sick to my stomach over having to watch Marky play for the enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Lazurus said: Well a new division for this year. All seven Canadian teams playing each other 7 or 8 times for the rankings. Won't be any expert opinions, just pure hard stats. This was a slip by Board of Governor Bill Foley Where do you think the Canucks will rank, with possible only 3 maybe 4 making the playoffs Farm teams will have to move as well. Where could the Comets play? Where will Vancouver rank for bragging rights? Should be a competitive and entertaining division. I wonder what the alignment will look like? Canada: Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal. West: San Jose, LA, Anaheim, Arizona, Vegas, Colorado, St. Louis, Chicago East: NYR, NJ, NYI, Boston, Columbus, Buffalo, Detroit, Pittsburgh South: Tampa, Florida, Washington, Carolina, Nashville, Dallas, Washington, Philadelphia Edited October 16, 2020 by DarkIndianRises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 This division is gonna be a coin flip on who makes it out. All the teams are competitive and none really stands head an shoulders above the rest or are ants ready to be crushed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Nuck Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Hope the NHL survives the next few years of the madness we’re going through, I love hockey but I’m old school, non of my kids care even though I took them to hundreds of games and they loved it back then. Funny thing, few years back my dad said sports were becoming irrelevant and I laughed at him, crazy times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Edmonton and Calgary have gotten better, would be nice to keep praying on San Jose, LA and Anaheim instead of the Canadian teams who are all pretty decent now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, 24K PureCool said: This division is gonna be a coin flip on who makes it out. All the teams are competitive and none really stands head an shoulders above the rest or are ants ready to be crushed. A fast start with ha few wins and staying injury free will matter more than ever to get out of this division and into the playoffs. It might even come down to regulation wins vs OT wins. This is where a good goalie tandem could be ideal as well. Edited October 16, 2020 by Robert Long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazurus Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 This will cause some interesting problems for trades and the TDL. I wonder how the playoffs will be structured as well. All Canadian teams playoff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux_win Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Dumb Nuck said: Hope the NHL survives the next few years of the madness we’re going through, I love hockey but I’m old school, non of my kids care even though I took them to hundreds of games and they loved it back then. Funny thing, few years back my dad said sports were becoming irrelevant and I laughed at him, crazy times. Personally I want the NHL to die an ugly death. Good riddance. I still love hockey but I can't stand what the NHL has become. I mean really "game management" - what the heck is that? (I mean that literally - what is that?) The NHL is slowly and steadily turning pro hockey into pro wrestling right before our eyes (boiling frogs anyone?). Let the NHL die and then we can start a Canadian pro hockey league and have a Canada division all the time (for people who actually like hockey and don't need to constantly reinvent it in order to attract lukewarm fans). The Americans can do their own thing with hockey and maybe we can play games between our champions (assuming they don't change the rules too much - look what happened to rugby, they turned that into American Football through the same process). Look at football (i.e. soccer), countries who like the sport (which is most of them) tend to have their own leagues and then their champions play. Seems to work. Why do we need Americans to pollute our favourite game? We Canadians don't need Americans to enjoy hockey, especially when their overweening profit-mongering is destroying the game. Yes, there is always a business side to professional sports, but there is also a hockey side to it that some of us still care about (but the majority of big fat American owners DON'T). I think that the NHL will actually survive but I don't want it to. Go Canucks Go! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, nux_win said: Personally I want the NHL to die an ugly death. Good riddance. I still love hockey but I can't stand what the NHL has become. I mean really "game management" - what the heck is that? (I mean that literally - what is that?) The NHL is slowly and steadily turning pro hockey into pro wrestling right before our eyes (boiling frogs anyone?). Let the NHL die and then we can start a Canadian pro hockey league and have a Canada division all the time (for people who actually like hockey and don't need to constantly reinvent it in order to attract lukewarm fans). The Americans can do their own thing with hockey and maybe we can play games between our champions (assuming they don't change the rules too much - look what happened to rugby, they turned that into American Football through the same process). Look at football (i.e. soccer), countries who like the sport (which is most of them) tend to have their own leagues and then their champions play. Seems to work. Why do we need Americans to pollute our favourite game? We Canadians don't need Americans to enjoy hockey, especially when their overweening profit-mongering is destroying the game. Yes, there is always a business side to professional sports, but there is also a hockey side to it that some of us still care about (but the majority of big fat American owners DON'T). I think that the NHL will actually survive but I don't want it to. Go Canucks Go! My fear with this new alignment for next year is that the Campbell Bowl and Prince of Wales Trophy might not apply, and in that case Bettman might just do away with them going forward. Guy never cared a fart for a single hockey tradition. Never should have renamed the divisions. The old ones had character. Edited October 16, 2020 by Kevin Biestra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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