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Quick question: Is Myers next year expansion protected?

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no. He only has a 10 team no trade list. He only had a NMC for year 1 of his deal. 

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Why wouldn't the Canucks protect him? He makes $6, and for a top 4 Dman, that's pretty standard these days. It might even be a good deal in 2-3 years. He has size, skates well for a big man, right shot, good team mate.  

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No, but it doesn't matter. Seattle wouldn't take him even if he ends up being exposed.

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9 minutes ago, Monty said:

No, but it doesn't matter. Seattle wouldn't take him even if he ends up being exposed.

Lol. Who gets 1st overall pick next year?

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Depends, if there are too many players need to be protected, he will not be protected.

If there are not too many players need to be protected, he will be protected.

It is too early to discuss at this moment.

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He doesn't need to be, as only a NMC requires that. I think it would be foolish to protect him, as I doubt Seattle wants that contract.

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Ferland and Edler are the only 2 players that have NMC and Edlers contract expires after this season

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4 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said:

Ferland and Edler are the only 2 players that have NMC and Edlers contract expires after this season

Ferkies NMC expires prior to expansion so he won't need protection either. No one on the Canucks has expansion protection. 

 

https://www.vancourier.com/pass-it-to-bulis/micheal-ferland-signs-four-year-contract-with-canucks-another-move-could-be-coming-1.23881183

 

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I like what Myers brings to our D, although he's probably paid a million too much.  As we rebuild our D over the next couple of years, I feel he will become increasingly valuable to this team.  He doesn't need to be protected, but I'd protect him for sure.

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21 minutes ago, Robert Long said:

Ferkies NMC expires prior to expansion so he won't need protection either. No one on the Canucks has expansion protection. 

 

https://www.vancourier.com/pass-it-to-bulis/micheal-ferland-signs-four-year-contract-with-canucks-another-move-could-be-coming-1.23881183

 

I think the expansion draft happens before the end of the season so his NMC is in effect

 

* All players with no movement clauses at the time of the draft, and who decline to waive those clauses, must be protected and will be counted toward their team's applicable protection limits.

 

On a date just before the regular 2021 NHL Entry Draft, the yet-to-be-named-32nd-NHL franchise from Seattle will carry out its very own NHL expansion draft

 

June 30 is when contracts officially end, hence the July 1 FA period starts.

 

Even with the altered dates Seattle expansion should be one week before the entry draft, similar to the Vegas expansion.

 

The article does mention the Boeser contract which will tie the team in cap knots again. The rule of thumb is a qualifying offer is a minimum 5% raise over the last year of his salary which is 7.5 million, so his next deal will start with 7.85 million per year.

 

With the flat cap 8 million a year becomes huge money.

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5 minutes ago, Lazurus said:

I think the expansion draft happens before the end of the season so his NMC is in effect

 

* All players with no movement clauses at the time of the draft, and who decline to waive those clauses, must be protected and will be counted toward their team's applicable protection limits.

 

On a date just before the regular 2021 NHL Entry Draft, the yet-to-be-named-32nd-NHL franchise from Seattle will carry out its very own NHL expansion draft

 

June 30 is when contracts officially end, hence the July 1 FA period starts.

 

Even with the altered dates Seattle expansion should be one week before the entry draft, similar to the Vegas expansion.

 

The article does mention the Boeser contract which will tie the team in cap knots again. The rule of thumb is a qualifying offer is a minimum 5% raise over the last year of his salary which is 7.5 million, so his next deal will start with 7.85 million per year.

 

With the flat cap 8 million a year becomes huge money.

no it was well established at the signing and confirmed that Ferland is not protected. 

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1 minute ago, Robert Long said:

no it was well established at the signing and confirmed that Ferland is not protected. 

From NHL.com

Seattle was granted an expansion franchise by the NHL on Dec. 4, 2018 and will begin play in 2021-22. The Seattle Kraken will be in the Pacific Division with the Arizona Coyotes moving to the Central Division.

The 2021 NHL Expansion Draft will be under the same rules for Seattle as the Vegas Golden Knights in 2017. Seattle will select one player from each team excluding the Golden Knights for a total of 30 (14 forwards, nine defensemen and three goalies) not including additional players who may be acquired as the result of violations of the Expansion Draft rules.

 

[RELATED: Seattle NHL expansion approved by Board of Governors | Seattle expansion frequently asked questions]

 

Seattle must choose a minimum of 20 players under contract for the 2021-22 regular season and those with an aggregate Expansion Draft value that is between 60-100 percent of the prior season's upper limit for the salary cap. Seattle cannot buy out players chosen in the Expansion Draft earlier than the summer following its first season.

Current NHL teams can protect seven forwards, three defensemen and one goalie, or eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goalie, under the following conditions.

* All players with no movement clauses at the time of the draft, and who decline to waive those clauses, must be protected and will be counted toward their team's applicable protection limits.

Free agency starts July1

Signing bonuses for the next year are paid July 1

Team's trading players rights expire on July 1

 

 

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Just now, Lazurus said:

From NHL.com

Seattle was granted an expansion franchise by the NHL on Dec. 4, 2018 and will begin play in 2021-22. The Seattle Kraken will be in the Pacific Division with the Arizona Coyotes moving to the Central Division.

The 2021 NHL Expansion Draft will be under the same rules for Seattle as the Vegas Golden Knights in 2017. Seattle will select one player from each team excluding the Golden Knights for a total of 30 (14 forwards, nine defensemen and three goalies) not including additional players who may be acquired as the result of violations of the Expansion Draft rules.

 

[RELATED: Seattle NHL expansion approved by Board of Governors | Seattle expansion frequently asked questions]

 

Seattle must choose a minimum of 20 players under contract for the 2021-22 regular season and those with an aggregate Expansion Draft value that is between 60-100 percent of the prior season's upper limit for the salary cap. Seattle cannot buy out players chosen in the Expansion Draft earlier than the summer following its first season.

Current NHL teams can protect seven forwards, three defensemen and one goalie, or eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goalie, under the following conditions.

* All players with no movement clauses at the time of the draft, and who decline to waive those clauses, must be protected and will be counted toward their team's applicable protection limits.

Free agency starts July1

Signing bonuses for the next year are paid July 1

Team's trading players rights expire on July 1

 

 

Ferland has a clause that allows him to be exposed. You're barking up the wrong tree here. 

 

The Canucks have no one that needs expansion protection. 

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No need to protect Myers. Cap space is at a premium, very unlikely Seattle would want to spend 6m on any player that isn't a solid top six forward or top pair D.

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15 minutes ago, Robert Long said:

Ferland has a clause that allows him to be exposed. You're barking up the wrong tree here. 

 

The Canucks have no one that needs expansion protection. 

From the CBA, each contract year ends on June 30, Ferlands clause does not start until after the 2021 - 2022 season starts, those are the rules otherwise it would listed in the year it occurs

 

What is an unrestricted free agent (UFA)?

A player becomes a free agent when their contract expires on July 1 after the last League Year of their contract. Any player who meets the following requirements becomes an unrestricted free agent (UFA):
  1. Is 27 years of age on June 30 of the contract expiry year
  2. Has seven (7) Accrued Seasons where an Accrued Season is earned when the player was on the clubs active roster for 40 Regular Season games (30 if the player is a goaltender). Games missed due to a hockey related injury will count towards an accrued season in the season of the injury, plus one additional season after the injury.
  3. Meets the requirements for Group 6 UFA Status (See below)

An unrestricted free agent is eligible to sign a contract with any club as of noon ET on July 1 after the last League Year of their contract

 

The Seattle expansion is before the entry draft before contracts expire and players become free agents.

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1 hour ago, Mackcanuck said:

Ferland and Edler are the only 2 players that have NMC and Edlers contract expires after this season

Management should talk Edler into waiving his NMC. Reason is his contract is up at the end of the season and if Seattle picks up he can just sign with the Canucks in 2 weeks time when he becomes a UFA. Edler should understand that if he waives, we can protect another young player and he can just relax knowing that the Canucks can sign him basically in the off season if he wish to keep on playing. I don't think Seattle will pick a pending UFA with an expiring contract anyways.

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9 minutes ago, Lazurus said:

From the CBA, each contract year ends on June 30, Ferlands clause does not start until after the 2021 - 2022 season starts, those are the rules otherwise it would listed in the year it occurs

It was already clarified that it's the status at the start of the following season that applies - ie the 1 July status or whenever that is for 2021/22.  

 

Here's CapFriendly's expansion tool.  You'll notice that no player in Vancouver has an NMC because that clause will have expired for the start of 2021/22 which is the status that matters.  

https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft/seattle

 

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