rekker Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, oldnews said: I think people might be getting carried away believing this indicates the precursor to buying out Sutter, or presuming that he'll replace a Roussel.... I think what it indicates is that they've added a young player that is a good organizational fit - whether it's on the Canucks roster if he earns that spot, or in Utica. It's too early to pencil him in as a bottom six center. Same with Gaudette - it's premature to be dumping Sutter in the absence of a proven replacement. The team still needs to integrate youth - beyond EP and Hughes - and regardless, providing them with the best opportunities to succeed remains a priority imo (ie "foundation"). Imo if Hawryluk makes the team it'll likely be as a second natural center playing wing on one of the shutdown lines. The nice thing about this player - he's versatile enough to play wing, be hard to play against, has talent and upside as a base to build upon, and has the potential/possibility to develop into an NHL center - but regardless, he makes sense on each of those levels.... Fits organizational need - and he's a young forward.....I wanted Richardson, but I see Hawryluk as a potential longer term option, one that makes different sense. Richardson may have enabled another move - but I'd prefer more natural center additions.... If they're going to dump anyone, it's going to be LW imo.... Look forward to seeing guys like him and MacEwen come in and push for spots. Still hope they re-sign Leivo. The only thing I might assume at this point - is that LE is done here! LE to the minors at the very least I think. If no games there than home to do nothing. Kind of like his play here, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 189lb enforcers? Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 51 minutes ago, Comeback_Kings said: I like this signing. Abrasive with a high compete level. Likely has a scoring touch too. Had 106 pts in 58 games for the Wheat Kings in 2015-16. That with 101 PIM, +59 2015-16 Brandon Wheat Kings WHL 58 47 59 106 101 59 21 7 22 29 39 That’s not easy. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, oldnews said: I think people might be getting carried away believing this indicates the precursor to buying out Sutter, or presuming that he'll replace a Roussel.... I think what it indicates is that they've added a young player that is a good organizational fit - whether it's on the Canucks roster if he earns that spot, or in Utica. It's too early to pencil him in as a bottom six center. Same with Gaudette - it's premature to be dumping Sutter in the absence of a proven replacement. The team still needs to integrate youth - beyond EP and Hughes - and regardless, providing them with the best opportunities to succeed remains a priority imo (ie "foundation"). Imo if Hawryluk makes the team it'll likely be as a second natural center playing wing on one of the shutdown lines. The nice thing about this player - he's versatile enough to play wing, be hard to play against, has talent and upside as a base to build upon, and has the potential/possibility to develop into an NHL center - but regardless, he makes sense on each of those levels.... Fits organizational need - and he's a young forward.....I wanted Richardson, but I see Hawryluk as a potential longer term option, one that makes different sense. Richardson may have enabled another move - but I'd prefer more natural center additions.... If they're going to dump anyone, it's going to be LW imo.... Look forward to seeing guys like him and MacEwen come in and push for spots. Still hope they re-sign Leivo. The only thing I might assume at this point - is that LE is done here! agreed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, oldnews said: ? Pretty sure one of the first things he did as GM was acquire Derek Dorsett. Benning isn't just learning on the job - that's probably the fanbase projecting.... Yes Dorsett was a beaut.... would have been magic on this roster... Felt we could have done with another Motte during last play offs. Though Motte and Beagle were the stand outs on the bottom two lines. Let me rephrase this then Good to see Old JB add more hustle to the team.... Benning is doing is doing a great job... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 Motte - Beagle - Hawryluk = Pain in the ass to play against 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Motte - Beagle - Hawryluk = Pain in the ass to play against The Buttplug Line. Doesn't really have a nice ring to it though.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, theo5789 said: The Buttplug Line. Doesn't really have a nice ring to it though.... The Hemorrhoid line? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 41 minutes ago, oldnews said: I think people might be getting carried away believing this indicates the precursor to buying out Sutter, or presuming that he'll replace a Roussel.... I think what it indicates is that they've added a young player that is a good organizational fit - whether it's on the Canucks roster if he earns that spot, or in Utica. It's too early to pencil him in as a bottom six center. Same with Gaudette - it's premature to be dumping Sutter in the absence of a proven replacement. The team still needs to integrate youth - beyond EP and Hughes - and regardless, providing them with the best opportunities to succeed remains a priority imo (ie "foundation"). Imo if Hawryluk makes the team it'll likely be as a second natural center playing wing on one of the shutdown lines. The nice thing about this player - he's versatile enough to play wing, be hard to play against, has talent and upside as a base to build upon, and has the potential/possibility to develop into an NHL center - but regardless, he makes sense on each of those levels.... Fits organizational need - and he's a young forward.....I wanted Richardson, but I see Hawryluk as a potential longer term option, one that makes different sense. Richardson may have enabled another move - but I'd prefer more natural center additions.... If they're going to dump anyone, it's going to be LW imo.... Look forward to seeing guys like him and MacEwen come in and push for spots. Still hope they re-sign Leivo. The only thing I might assume at this point - is that LE is done here! Only reason I'm suggesting a Sutter buyout is due to creating enough cap space to sign Jake at what I think to be 2.5 million (although I've projected high compared to JB's RFA signings many times) and filling out a 23 man roster. It's the easiest solution not requiring a trade (even though it would be more ideal to make a trade). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 46 minutes ago, wildcam said: Jake will be signed for around 2.5 -- 2.7 million... With the Gaudette signing, wouldn't be surprised if he signed at like 2.15 million or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 34 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: That’s not easy. I don't expect any significant scoring from him, but if he can turn himself into Motte 2.0 that would be great for us. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, theo5789 said: The Buttplug Line. Doesn't really have a nice ring to it though.... do those come with rings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, Robert Long said: do those come with rings? Stanley Cup rings, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/19/2020 at 10:18 AM, -Vintage Canuck- said: I love this signing. Good value for a high energy gritty C/RW that will fit in well in our bottom six. Well done JB. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 2 hours ago, combover said: 7 rounds @ 6 years to fill holes present and future. He’s a fringe nhler we have those 5’11 196. Good depth for Utica I guess. hope it means JB has a plan to get rid of the Sutter and his past plug signings atleast this ones cheap. Thought you were banned. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Nice pickup. Having another guy who brings a similar game to Motte can only be a good thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -Vintage Canuck- Posted October 19, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Great pickup. Thanks Jimmy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Only reason I'm suggesting a Sutter buyout is due to creating enough cap space to sign Jake at what I think to be 2.5 million (although I've projected high compared to JB's RFA signings many times) and filling out a 23 man roster. It's the easiest solution not requiring a trade (even though it would be more ideal to make a trade). They have 14 forwards signed - and a million of cap space. They can waive both LE and Baer....replace one with a Hawryluk or other prospect - and gain a couple hundred k - and assign 1 million of that to Virtanen. Meaning they are close to being able to sign Virtanen under the cap (have about 2.3 mllion in this scenario). They then need to add a 7th D....So they are about a Juolevi cap hit over, perhaps 1 million if we factor Virtanen at 2.45 as opposed to 2.3.... They can go 10% over in the offseason. They can go with a 22 player roster to start. They may not have a healthy Ferland. They don't need to - nor is it advisable - to buyout Sutter. If they 'need' to get rid of cap - it needs to come in winger form (or Benn). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Devron Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 3 hours ago, combover said: Pointless signing. we have no bottom three forwards (Under contract) in the farm? After Six years of drafting you’d think we’d have guys that could fill this role. But if it mean the foundational sutter leaves then fantastic. if sutter stays then just another Of the many pointless Line up Plug signings. cap for JV or gaudette doesn’t look great. Pointless post 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Cheap grinder but he's still young and may not have played his best hockey yet. He had a great little handful of games after the move so let's see if that continues. I think there's a roster spot up for grabs depending on who comes ready to training camp. Most importantly though, this signing means JB is either going to have to move someone or let someone walk. Especially considering the fact that he wants a depth defenceman, you've got to think that a forward is on the way out. Eriksson's clearly immovable and Sutter still rightly holds down the 3C role so I think it's Roussel for a 5th round pick to any poor team that will take him. Then sign Virtanen for 2.5-3M and Leivo for 1M and let them all fight it out in training camp for one top 6 spot and loads of bottom 6 roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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