greensman Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: Do you think it's fair for one team to have two starters and another team to have one starter and a backup? I’ve been in this position before... it’s not always as cut and dry as you’d think. I personally approached the teams in the league without a starter, but none of them wanted either of my bonafide starters. I maintained an ongoing discussion with agents to let them know of my efforts and my attempts to rectify the situation. once there are enough games to make the true starters stand out (right now, that’s goalies playing 13-16 games already), those GM’s with two will be contacted swiftly. Edited February 22, 2021 by greensman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2xtreme Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, greensman said: I’ve been in this position before... it’s not always as cut and dry as you’d think. I personally approached the teams in the league without a starter, but none of them wanted either of my bonafide starters. I maintained an ongoing discussion with agents to let them know of my efforts and my attempts to rectify the situation. once there are enough games to make the true starters stand out (right now, that’s goalies playing 13-16 games already), those GM’s with two will be contacted swiftly. This also gets trickier once injuries, covid and just the irregularity of the season get factored in. Teams are deploying their goaltenders much differently than a usual season. However, it is definitely something we have our eye on and have been looking at already. Teams should be looking over their roster now and making sure they're not pushing the boundaries too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Romo Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Not sure if its me or sharpshooter in trouble or not, but my point was I think the current rules in place AND the salary cap do a great job at promoting parity, and we do not need a starting goalie list for that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2xtreme Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, Tony Romo said: Not sure if its me or sharpshooter in trouble or not, but my point was I think the current rules in place AND the salary cap do a great job at promoting parity, and we do not need a starting goalie list for that. I don't think it's about coming up with a list, but just having common sense. A team shouldn't be able to have 2 goaltenders who are playing 70% of their NHL teams games, or 10 forwards who are playing regularly in their NHL clubs top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Romo Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, canuck2xtreme said: I don't think it's about coming up with a list, but just having common sense. A team shouldn't be able to have 2 goaltenders who are playing 70% of their NHL teams games, or 10 forwards who are playing regularly in their NHL clubs top 6. I think there is a theoretical argument to be made that if a team can fit 12 first liners on their team under the salary cap, then tip of the cap to them, but I agree with you and the current rules in place! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Azzy Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) Just to throw my thoughts in the mix on goalies, and taking my GM hat firmly off here: Just from my perspective (and with the very greatest of respect to @Squeak), I would take the goaltending tandem of the team that's 31st in the league over the team that's 1st in the league. So the argument immediately doesn't wash. As others have said, having two elite starters clearly isn't fair - but it's also highly unlikely. I have no issues with any team's goalie tandem. Things also change very quickly, like with Demko in the playoffs last season. There are also teams who have two bonafide starters on terrible teams - their points combined won't match someone Vasilevskiy, so why make them move one when it's actually hurting them to keep both? The key to winning is to have a balanced roster with good players at every position and I'm sure that we would all want that for our teams. But on goalies, I must have discussed trading one of my goalies specifically with at least 6/7 teams for whom he would be a clear improvement, and cap / not wanting to improve and hurt draft positioning is the only reason some of these teams could have. It is very difficult to move a starting goalie on an IRL poor team because the only players that have any value to the top 25 teams in the league are those who are guaranteed to play in the playoffs. Much love to all EDIT: One additional thought - there are a few teams in the top 16 of the league who haven't been in this position for YEARS. Just wanted to say congrats to those GMs (they know who they are) and to say how happy I am for them. Edited February 22, 2021 by Azzy 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Webb Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 The Florida Panthers add both Marcus Pettersson and Steven Stamkos to the active roster from IR Ty Webb General Manager Florida Panthers Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da.moose Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Pending the IR announcement of Matt Grzelcyk Re-call: The Washington Capitals re-call Pierre Engvall and place him on the NHL roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) I have two starters. Quick didn't have to sign with me in the offseason, I really didn't offer him very much, but I did want a guy who could keep Price "well rested" so I made a pitch. He was a UFA, literally everyone had a shot at him. That said, there are goalies with more individual points than my tandem combined, so there is that. Edited February 22, 2021 by luckylager 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2xtreme Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 ASSIGNMENT: The Winnipeg Jets have assigned Thatcher Demko to the minors (no waivers required). RECALL: The Winnipeg Jets have recalled Chris Driedger to their active roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) RUMOUR Hearing the Maple Leafs have been staying busy on the phones. Theres a lot of talk they might be dangling Nolan Patrick for a high quality D prospect. This coming just 24 hours after hearing they already acquired a quality D prospect. Looks like they're trying to bolster their backend to help with the Adam Fox contract negotiations. Edited February 22, 2021 by Crabby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aGENT Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) May as well add my $0.02. I've already had heat for supposedly having 'two starters...' but unless it's a TOTAL clear cut case of two legit 1A guys on a roster, I don't particularly think heavy handed intervention is needed. I already traded away Vas because it was clear him and Hart were competing 1A guys (without any league prompting FWIW). I signed a solid 1B vet last year in Greiss and did the same this year with Khudobin (a near 35 yo, career backup) as it's a position I value. Especially this year with Covid doing a number on teams, delays, player availability etc. Ideally, I didn't want to be caught without a capable goalie, should a player or team get shut down. Real life teams do this too, just look at Montreal this year trading for Allen to play with Price. Canucks with Holtby/Demko. Teams like having solid duos. This isn't 'gaming the system', it's a management choice. If a team focuses cap on solid tending, that's their prerogative and will mean less funds to apply elsewhere and I think it's silly to nanny them unless, again, it's a BLATANT case of two 1A's (sorry, no Price-Helleybuck duos lol). In which case, the current rules already cover it IMO. This is supposed to be fun, right? I get the desire to keep things 'fair' but IMO the current rules are already there to do so. Are you going to enjoy playing GML and building your team if there's constantly someone looking over your shoulder at your roster for 'grey areas' etc? IMO, if someone has to try to 'build a case' as to why you 'might' have two 'starters' (particularly under the abnormal circumstances of this season), we've already gone past the spirit of the rule and are getting in to annoying nannying. If you don't like your own goalie situation, trade for one or target them when they're UFA. That's the game. Edited February 22, 2021 by aGENT 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Poolman injured again... Come on dude, you've played like 4 games ffs! Grumblegrumble something Winnipeg plug grumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ty Webb Posted February 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) The Florida Panthers organization has shifted its strategy to a rebuild and we have spoken to all our players and they are aware of the circumstance. Our goal is to take care of our existing players so they may have an opportunity to win a championship. The following players are available: Tyler Johnson - Willing to retain salary Steven Stamkos - Limited NTC William Karlsson - Limited NTC David Pasternak Charlie Coyle Wayne Simmonds Brian Dumoulin Nick Jensen Carson Soucy Victor Mete Leo Komarov Cal Clutterbuck Mike Smith Martin Jones Thank you for your consideration, Ty Webb General Manager Florida Panthers Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-Na Edited February 22, 2021 by Ty Webb 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethunder Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 16 hours ago, Crabby said: Thats going to be me with my Askarov/Ingram tandem someday soon In 4 years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, lethunder said: In 4 years? Ingram should be getting starts in the next 2 years, and I think Askarov has the potential to be a full time starter earlier than most. Time will tell though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sludge Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, lethunder said: In 4 years? a lot can happen in 4 years *looks at Colton Point in the corner* Edited February 22, 2021 by Sludge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreLePlum Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Updated Anaheim Ducks roster: Hall - Couturier - Palmieri Kreider - Lindblom - Byron Zucarello - Grant - Sutter Raffl - Nash - Bastian Haas Doughty - Murray Severson - Carlo Gilbert - Haakanpaa Greene Dubnyk Anderson Fear the Waddle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 16 hours ago, canuck2xtreme said: I don't think it's about coming up with a list, but just having common sense. Without digging in to any alternate subjects where this might not be the case? Common sense seems like a great position for the league to take. And even if a nudge to move a goalie (discreetly) took place? Teams also would deserve an honest chance at dealing with said situations. Like it happens in real life? How long did it take to move Schneids or Lou. Does Fleury really want to move from Vegas because they have another starter? And I mean really! Why should any team feel obligated to trade some muther pucker prima donna, disloyal, piece of ____ ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethunder Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: How long did it take to move Schneids or Lou. Does Fleury really want to move from Vegas because they have another starter? I wish he would. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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