[Fired] Mark Donnelly

[iinatcc]

4 hours ago, I.Am.Ironman said:

Not sure how I feel about this.. Donnelly was a contractor, not employee, so all the "portraying company values in the public eye" stuff doesn't hold weight. It would have been better for the Canucks if they just ignored it and kept him for playoff games. What if JT Miller is exposed as an anti masker? Same result? Don't think so. Aquilini should stay out of the political stuff, this just screams opportunism by aquilini to flaunt some moral high ground. Donnelly was one of the better anthem singers in the league, ill miss him., All that said, It would be great if Marie Hue (sp?) carried on his tradition of letting the crowd sing.. make it a Vancouver thing and not a Donnelly thing.

I think we need to stop talking about wearing mask as a political issue. It is not, for those that have visited countries in East Asia know that there are people that wear mask as a public health and science issue. Normal people don't think about warning mask because of political reasons, they wear them as a safety and health precaution. 

 

I am not saying he should have been fired or not but it does pose a dangerous public health risks for people who either refuse to wear masks during the pandemic or promote the movement. 

[filthycanuck]

2 hours ago, Squamfan said:

If u find a anti masker who played beer league hockey goalie. Ask them why u wear a mask. 100% he going to answer for my protection. Then replay my asking a n95 is for the same thing. This is how dumb those people are.

Yeah defintely, those are the flat earth dimwits, like that retard who owns a yoga studio who broke quarantine and bragging about it. That 45 year old goof deserves jail time and the 300k$ fine. Geez, 45 and still dressing up like hes a backstreet boy, real cool buddy

[filthycanuck]

7 hours ago, coolboarder said:

Being racist or opposing government policies are two different things.  Mark exercised his right as an individual to participate in a community that the government might oppose will not damage the company's reputation.  Opposing any government policy does not damage the Canucks in any way as a brand.  A murderer or a rapist or even racist do damage the reputation so protesting on something is not a crime in itself.    You have to keep in mind that the owner has other interests and his goal is to maximum his profits with other business that he invests, namely real estate business that he is doing all over the city and it is in his best interest to make more money via perks, or tax breaks by any means by scratching the government's back with some backroom deals.  It's like I'll scratch your back if you scratch my back kind of thing is disgusting.  It is not about racist.   I highly doubt that the example you cited out is just a poor example would happen.  Most government worker will not get involved that they knew that it's illegal and would rather to keep their job because they are the government worker and most often that they agree to their policies when  they are hired unless you are a leader of an official opposition party in the parliament.  Most often, the government would rather hire their own people in any government related businesses.

 

I do agree that masks is needed for protection but you cannot take away the individual's right to express his opinion on any government policies.  Going to a rally is your right for as long as it's social distance.  There are a fine line if the government seek to prevent any rallies that is related to the government policies that they try to ban the gathering is wrong.  

Thats just assuming, he could also have a family member thats high risk of getting infected, you'll never know. Either way, I agree with Francesco with canning Mark Donnelly. If you are an anti masker, you're an idiot

[filthycanuck]

7 hours ago, GarthButcher5 said:

I certainly respect the Aquilini's decision. No one would know who Mark Donnelly even is if not for the Canucks.  I am certain the pandemic has cost the Canucks millions of dollars and they have an employee seemingly flaunting the rule and potentially making it worse.

 

Mark Donnelly has not lost any of his free speech. He still has every right to attend the rally and sing if he wishes. This doesn't stop anything in this respect. Only now, he cannot do it as a representative of the Canucks whereby he is potentially making the Canucks look bad.

 

I think any company in Canada would be concerned if they had an employee doing something that would possibly embarrass the company, this would be against their standards of conduct.

Exactly. Aquallini deserves the right to run his company the way he sees fit. He didn't break any laws, theres no contract, no union involved etc. so theres no foul. Free speech doesn't mean you're free of consequences. I can say just blast this forum with cursing and foul language, you can be sure CDC moderators are going to take action

[morgo]

8 hours ago, debluvscanucks said:

Anti maskers are a joke...

The only joke is the term "anti-masker" becoming a pejorative.  Like your right to have a face and breathe uninhibited is now grounds for shaming people.
 

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they'd likely wear:  a hallowe'en mask to a party; a balaclava skiing; a full face motorcycle helmet; etc..  But this cotton piece????....don't make me do it

You wear a Halloween mask once a year, twice tops.  You wear a balaclava while your on the slopes and a motorcycle helmet while your riding your bike.  You don't wear any of these things all day, every day for 9 months and counting...  What an absolutely asinine comparison.

[morgo]

3 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

 

This is kind of reasoning I'd expect from a first grader.  The fact a supposed adult came up with this laughably simplistic analogy is much scarier than any virus.

Edited December 5, 2020 by morgo

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1 hour ago, morgo said:

The only joke is the term "anti-masker" becoming a pejorative.  Like your right to have a face and breathe uninhibited is now grounds for shaming people.
 

You wear a Halloween mask once a year, twice tops.  You wear a balaclava while your on the slopes and a motorcycle helmet while your riding your bike.  You don't wear any of these things all day, every day for 9 months and counting...  What an absolutely asinine comparison.

Exaggerations aren't facts.  NO ONE is being asked to wear a mask all day, every day for 9 months and counting and that's just dramatic.  

 

As things have escalated we've been asked to wear them in public spaces.  And when we're near others in private settings and social distancing isn't possible.

 

Throwing out things like "asanine" and first grader don't make you any smarter and is an attempt to....shame.  So double standards aren't really helping make your point.  The pee test is to give a pretty effective visual that some NEED because giving them the facts isn't enough.  Public health officials and scientists are recommending to wear masks to reduce the spread of a potentially deadly virus.   Some need it to be dumbed down.   

 

What's asinine (corrected spelling) is those arguing against wearing masks for a time to get us through a fairly unprecedented period where doing so could help save lives.    

 

Everyone has a right to breathe and if your breath potentially carries virus droplets, cover it up so it doesn't make us sick. 

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I can't help but think of the old saying..."it's over when the fat lady sings".  I normally wouldn't post that because fat shaming isn't cool, but he sings and it's over so it resonates.  And I agree with what some others are saying....the entire team made huge strides in a bubble and wearing masks in order to keep others safe and continue playing.  Following their lead seems like a no brainer.  "We're all in this together" is a powerful message and I'm proud of FA for sharing it.  In or out.

 

Those stating it's a slippery slope don't understand that a novel coronavirus that's spreading throughout the world and is killing people isn't an everyday occurrence.  Another saying that comes to mind is "desperate times call for desperate measures".  These are unusual circumstances.   People are reacting to this like it's a permanent ask, it's not.  We're being asked to TEMPORARILY do some things differently to help get us through this deal.  Until we have vaccines in place.  And the refusal to do so is questionable.  That, to me, is more fear based than the fear of the virus.  It's being sensible and taking whatever measures we can to help in a worldwide fight to combat this thing.

 

For many who are taking a stand...THEY'RE fearful that the Gov't recommendations some how mean they're trying to control us.  We shouldn't NEED controlling or enforcement but the polite "asks" have led us here.  There are some who will rise up against things just because it makes them feel empowered as they climb on their soapbox and rally the crowds.  The spotlight.  But being kind and considerate to others is also very empowering....when you don't think in terms of what you're giving up, but what you're giving to others.

 

Think of it like charity....where, sure, you can just be selfish and not worry about others.  Thank goodness many do think beyond me, myself and I.

[canuck2288]

For the clowns on here that say people should have a choice regarding wearing a mask, well aquaman has the choice to hire and fire anyone he chooses 

 

see ya Mark 

 

when Covid hits your your fat a$$, when some non mask wearing fool sprays covid on you, I hope they find a box big enough for you 

Edited December 5, 2020 by canuck2288

[Twilight Sparkle]

as someone who's had 4 close friends who've caught corona, and one of them's had it twice, because she's an essential worker, and one who committed suicide because  corona caused her so much pain she had to end it, **** you mark donnelly.

[falcon45ca]

Jesus, and I thought Kelly Sutherland was a total assface. Way to go Mark!

[canuck2288]

The Canadian and then and the Canucks will always be bigger than Mark (even being bigger than Mark is hard to do)

 

he is nothing more than a poor opera singer 

 

good riddance 

[Tracksuit]

So why aren’t they protesting “ no shirt no shoes no service”.

No mask = no treatment if you get the disease. 
Ignorance is bliss until you need a ventilator. 

 

same goes for all the albertians ontarities Nova Scotians travellers plaguing our communities no doubt collecting the CRB payments.

shouldn’t  qualify for treatment or payment outside your permanent address province. 

Someone could make a killing selling tin foil hats at these idiot rallies. 

Maybe donkey i mean Donnelly can run around and trip over a rug  and Chris Farley Fall  down while singing. Guys always be a side show clown Atleast for me.

calgary can have him but he’ll have to work on his fake southern accent and Stupid country music  themed anthems  in order to qualify. 

 

[Tre Mac]

Not a fan of ownership but that tweet was gold.  I liked how Mark would stop early and let the crowd sing 'in all thy sons' but you have to be an effin fool if you think masks are not essential during a pandemic.

[DrJockitch]

The national anthem means I tuned in too early and will be back in a bit. 
I have been saying this for a long time, these aren’t national teams and there is no reason for the anthem anyway and certainly no reason for two. The teams are made up of Canadians, Russians, Swedes, Finns, Czechs, German, French, Swedish and American, maybe we should sing all those anthems instead. 
It is a silly tradition that has been causing more trouble than good over the last several years. 
We don’t sing the anthem at movies anymore. It is time to get rid of it in professional sports. 
I guess when you are at the game it tells you it is time to get your beer and get to your seat but that is about it. 
 

I don’t think it is even worth engaging with any of the anti-mask stupidity at this point. These people know they are just being oppositional for the sake of being oppositional and are callous enough to not care about the extra number of people that die because they are snowflakes. 

[MeanSeanBean]

6 hours ago, Dumb Nuck said:

Doctors wear masks to prevent infections, viruses do not create infections, bacteria do, masks are made to stop bacteria which are way bigger than viruses. The warning label on a box of masks states “ will not prevent the spread of viruses including COVID” 

Nothing will ever change your opinion. I have had this discussion with enough people in the last year to know that. I have removed enough people from the clinic who had come seeking care to be sure of that. But again, as someone who works in healthcare you don't fully understand what you are talking about. You simply do not grasp what you are saying. It's good to hear that you wear masks and respect the mandate. But you continue to repeat this narrative which is incorrect and dangerous.

 

Continuing to repeat miss information can be just as dangerous as actions in public. l these keyboard doctors on Facebook have proven that. I want to be clear on that, because you earlier defended yourself to me. You do not get to do that if you keep spreading miss information.

[DonaldBrashear]

That is a really unprofessional way to fire someone.

[DonaldBrashear]

1 hour ago, Twilight Sparkle said:

as someone who's had 4 close friends who've caught corona, and one of them's had it twice, because she's an essential worker, and one who committed suicide because  corona caused her so much pain she had to end it, **** you mark donnelly.

How about F you to the government who LIED to us and told us NOT to wear masks for months until finally relenting and saying to WEAR masks. That's when everyone was dying. This same government who also told us eggs were bad for us for decades and had a food pyramid that caused obesity and now admits actually eggs are good for you.

[MeanSeanBean]

3 minutes ago, DonaldBrashear said:

How about F you to the government who LIED to us and told us NOT to wear masks for months until finally relenting and saying to WEAR masks. That's when everyone was dying. This same government who also told us eggs were bad for us for decades and had a food pyramid that caused obesity and now admits actually eggs are good for you.

That was the American government. Over the last few years, I think we can all agree to say F them. But even those statements, while even I disagree with, were said to attempt to preserve PPE for the people who needed it most. Again, it was a miss play by the American government. But clearly based on how Covid has gone there has been many missplays down south.

 

But disregarding someone's post who talks about deaths of loved ones so you can go on a anti-government rant about the outdated food pyramid is a beyond disrespectful thing to do.

[DrJockitch]

4 hours ago, morgo said:

The only joke is the term "anti-masker" becoming a pejorative.  Like your right to have a face and breathe uninhibited is now grounds for shaming people.
 

You wear a Halloween mask once a year, twice tops.  You wear a balaclava while your on the slopes and a motorcycle helmet while your riding your bike.  You don't wear any of these things all day, every day for 9 months and counting...  What an absolutely asinine comparison.

Anti-masker should be pejorative. It is someone that is so callous that they don’t care that they are helping to kill people. 
 

If you are wearing your mask 24/7 as you are implying than you have misunderstood the mandate. You wear a mask when you are around people that have right not to be made sick by someone ignoring simple public health guidelines. You don’t need to wear you mask all day every day for nine months.  You need to wear it in appropriate situations like wearing a balaclava while skiing. I would generally prefer a bicycle helmet when riding a bicycle but wouldn’t feel the need to wear it when swimming as that is generally not the appropriate protection for the activity.  
 

This argument is so silly and full of holes it doesn’t even make good satire.