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A local guy who does a lot of hockey related content on youtube. I keep up with the leagues on goings largely due to his channel. He typically takes a cautious approach when it comes to Vancouver. Just listening to it now myself. Figured some of you may like to hear it.

 

 

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1 hour ago, TNucks1 said:

very possible, if we need upgrades on D or cap reasons ect.

I don't see it personally. Brock is on a good deal and we have nobody that can fill Brocks shoes. I get the whole shiny new syndrome that affects many people but Podz and Hogs don't have the goal-scoring ability Brock has. Podz is gonna be a stud who I think will be more of a playmaker and defensive beast, Hogs has a high ceiling but is not a sure thing. Brock had his worst season and was still close to a ppg for most of the season. I will be shocked if healthy he doesn't blow away his numbers next season. Pearson and Sutter are gone next season Ferland is prolly done as well with Edler and Benn gone on D. Plus Spooner as well? Brock will not be a cap casualty can't see any scenario where he could be.

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1 hour ago, Alienhuggyflow said:

I don't see it personally. Brock is on a good deal and we have nobody that can fill Brocks shoes. I get the whole shiny new syndrome that affects many people but Podz and Hogs don't have the goal-scoring ability Brock has. Podz is gonna be a stud who I think will be more of a playmaker and defensive beast, Hogs has a high ceiling but is not a sure thing. Brock had his worst season and was still close to a ppg for most of the season. I will be shocked if healthy he doesn't blow away his numbers next season. Pearson and Sutter are gone next season Ferland is prolly done as well with Edler and Benn gone on D. Plus Spooner as well? Brock will not be a cap casualty can't see any scenario where he could be.

the quote was long term, but no i doubt we trade him before his contracts over.
EDIT: i also would rather keep him, if possible in the future.

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3 hours ago, N7Nucks said:

Every time he roasts the Skate logo I die a little inside :( Also his take on Brock hurts me too. I love Brock, he's a core piece in my books.

I didn't watch this video yet, but in his previous videos he was always very high on Boeser and was always irritated by all the "trade Boeser away" talks. (i guess he still browses CDC)

 

I've just seen a comment under his Holtby mask video, made me laugh out loud:

 

"Uphill skating is harder, downhill should be seen as the ice being tilted in the Canucks favor."

 

That's the good mentality :lol:

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I appreciate hockey guy's opinion, and he usually brings up good arguments, but I think he was a little contradictory in his assessment of Juolevi and Boeser. On one hand, he's giving Juolevi the benefit of the doubt that he'll turn out, due to his injury plagued start to his career. On the other hand, you have Boeser who, like Juolevi, has also battled injury through his first few pro seasons, but somehow a young player putting up a career average of 0.81 ppg, won't be part of our core longer term. You also have to consider in Boeser's rookie year, he was the most dynamic forward we had, and he was the guy to set up for the shots on the PP.

 

'17-'18 without EP: 10 ppg, 23pts. 

'18-'19 with EP: 6ppg, 15pts

'19-'20 with EP, Hughes, and Miller: 5ppg, 14pts (12 less gp)

 

This last season shows just how much this team has improved in the span of 3. Boeser is not the only option anymore, and they're consistently working for an EP one timer, while Boeser is down lower in the zone (not exactly a prime shooting location). If Newell would shift Boeser up off the half wall, that would give us both sides of the ice to work with, thus giving him more shot opportunities, it would also prevent the pk from overloading Petey's shooting lane, and keeps the goalie guessing where the shot's coming from through traffic. Alternatively, put him in the high slot, opens him up for a one timer pass from Petey in a prime spot. It's really just his utilization.

 

The same argument can be made for 5v5 play as well, it's not that he's stalled in his development, it's just that we had more offensive options last season than his first 2, with Miller shattering his career record, Hughes and his abilities, and Petey being Petey. Not as many goals, but still, 16g, 45pts in 57gp isn't bad either. If Boeser can stay healthy, I see no reason why he can't be a part of our core long term.

 

I'll disagree with him on his 'Next Big Hype' as well. Two drafted and developed goaltenders on your post expansion roster is great and all, but personally, I'm more excited to see Podkolzin and Hoglander.

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On 12/15/2020 at 2:27 AM, Crabcakes said:

Gaudette being core is his OPINION.  Gaud is going to have to have a major break thru season to gain that status imo

It is a fair assumption to say that we need Benning needs Gaudette to work out.

 

Despite us having a good prospect pool?  We do not have a single pivot who can clearly project as an NHL centreman. Never mind one who is NHL ready; with Sutter expiring next year, Beagle the year after. Next year we probably wont have cap space for another pivot. Two years from now, we  probably will. But in a perfect world we have a succession plan of products to drop in to holes.

 

But it also seems fair that Green and the coaching staff like Gaudette.  More so than, say Jake Virtanen? Based  on nothing more than Jake requiring tough love coaching.  Then we hear sound bites & snippets which, at best, question JV. And Gaudette, with holes in his game? Seems to draw their support. My inferred conclusion is they like his work rate, attention to detail. ie effort to resolve & improve game weaknesses. It seems to bear out in commentary underneath the surface when coaching staff or Benning is interviewed. Gaudette has the physical & mental skills to improve...  

 

 I suppose the real underlying theme?  With Hoglander, Podkolzin, possibly Lind on their way? We can also fallback to Miller playing pivot...

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5 hours ago, Crabcakes said:

Boeser not being a long term Canuck is his OPINION.  It's pretty clear. No evidence.

I do disagree with Shannon on this one.

 

And it bore out that Toffoli walked.

 

Boeser has a career scoring average that beats Tofolli's best year. This past year?  Boeser, stepped back from pure goal scoring.  Improved, passing, puck handling, play in corners & defensively this year.  That my opinion btw. Played 2knd line, 3rd line.  Did not get overly distracted by cat calls & trade rumors. Wants to be a Canuck, be a better player. 

 

Improved all things Tofolli did better than Boeser in the past. Maybe has room to go before he matches the intensity and detail that evryone likes about Tofu's game?  I see him having been forced by Green to improve his overall game. And that he accepted this challenge. Boes then was back to top line, and produced, in the post season as others, including Tofolli, were injured.   

 

Next year and the year after?  Hoglander is a Tofolli style energy, heart and soul player.  So is Podkolzin. F' me, the drive to forecheck, win battles, brute athleticism? Hoglander will be our best athlete.  Podz, not far behind Pettersson & Hughes. And is also 6'4''. These boys play hard! That has Horat line written all over it?  Yet neither has ever been massive scoring sensations. Save a few YouTube highlight goals? Are ever going to score as many goals and points as Boeser.  

 

Boeser is absolutely our gun long term scoring winger. 

 

All just my opinion.

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13 hours ago, N7Nucks said:

Every time he roasts the Skate logo I die a little inside :( Also his take on Brock hurts me too. I love Brock, he's a core piece in my books.

The skate logo deserves roasting, the colours may be alright but objectively it is a terrible logo. 

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7 hours ago, Crabcakes said:

Boeser not being a long term Canuck is his OPINION.  It's pretty clear. No evidence.

 

Gaudette being core is his OPINION.  Gaud is going to have to have a major break thru season to gain that status imo

Agree. Take Boeser out and all of a sudden our scoring options are thin and sparse.

 

But Gaudette is very much part of the core IMO. We need someone to anchor the third line long term. Miller could drop to that spot but he and EP have been so good together it's counterintuitive to separate them.

 

If Gaudette doesn't work out, we don't really have a center prospect and we will have to dip into free agent market. 

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Thanks for posting.  I enjoyed his take and really it was an honest one.   A lot of variables going into this season - especially going into an all Canadian division.   Glad he acknowledged both the SN and THN takes a little (second in our Pacific division and 11th overall)...like he said in a regular season that might be the best we could hope for.    Hope Holtby is ready to kick some butt. 

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