PhillipBlunt Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, coastal.view said: it has to do more with the ability to create social distance then that people go to a location in numbers a lot of those facilities can avoid crowding of attendees There are large areas within all those places where people can gather in numbers. Most do it without even realizing they're doing so. Why not shut it down and avoid the possibility? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket1994 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 minute ago, coastal.view said: it has to do more with the ability to create social distance then that people go to a location in numbers a lot of those facilities can avoid crowding of attendees Nope! I worked at the Aquarium for 10 years...there is NO avoiding crowding!! Those are places to avoid 100%!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ossi Vaananen said: I've presented facts. Irans numbers, facts. Italy's numbers, facts. YVR arrivalss, facts. ICU bed numbers from an academic source, facts. You seem more inclined to cherry pick by ignoring all these. you've also posted 'facts' from fake twitter accounts and have claimed Canada's not acting. You're on some sort of tack here, not really sure why but I suspect you're going to continue. You can feel free not to respond. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, Ossi Vaananen said: This is confounding to say the least. Yes, I believe air traffic should have been shut down, borders too. What would it have done to our economy? look at what has already been done, TSX down 20%, asinine point. So you say. But did any of the medical experts they're listening too say close the borders? Cancel travel? You think 20% is bad? Imagine 6 weeks of no inner or outer travel while this is still occurring around the globe. You can call it asinine but you can't claim it's wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, 'NucK™ said: Thank you. I do think it is just a bad flu as my cough has not been worsening. The cough doesn't need to worsen. It's defined as a dry, persistent cough. Just now, 'NucK™ said: I just find it a bit silly that people with a minor cold are telling others with a severe fever and coughing not to worry just because don't have shortness of breath.. as far as I know pneumonia would be a latter developments of the virus and that is what would cause shortness of breath. The main symptoms according to health professionals I have talked to are the aforementioned cough, shortness of breath, a temperature of at least 100.4, and body aches. Runny nose and sneezing are not related to the viral illness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 My only hope is that this crisis finally wakes Americans up to the need of having universal healthcare and the ineffectiveness of private health insurance in time of public health crisis. Not holding my breath though. God I miss our BC healthcare system right about now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 'NucK™ said: Thank you. I do think it is just a bad flu as my cough has not been worsening. I just find it a bit silly that people with a minor cold are telling others with a severe fever and coughing not to worry just because don't have shortness of breath.. as far as I know pneumonia would be a latter developments of the virus and that is what would cause shortness of breath. it is likely best not to rely on or worry too much about what others tell you unless they have proper medical training you'll stress yourself otherwise the simplest thing to do if you are sick is to get medical advise from someone trained to give it the easiest way presently is calling 8-1-1 if you do not have urgency, you can consider calling when the lines might be less busy Edited March 13, 2020 by coastal.view 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 minute ago, 24K PureCool said: My only hope is that this crisis finally wakes Americans up to the need of having universal healthcare and the ineffectiveness of private health insurance in time of public health crisis. Not holding my breath though. God I miss our BC healthcare system right about now. apparently some insurance companies are waiving the co-pay on treatment for covid19. Which is basically universal healthcare...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: There are large areas within all those places where people can gather in numbers. Most do it without even realizing they're doing so. Why not shut it down and avoid the possibility? because people need to take on some personal responsibility and change their behaviour for the time being and discipline themselves to create social distancing we can remind each other as we meet each other what the new appropriate way to socially interact is while this pandemic is ongoing everyone has the ability to learn no need to force everyone to stay isolated at home always and close down every possible form of diversion or entertainment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ossi Vaananen said: 'take out China, Iran, and Italy's numbers' you lost me right there. Talk about convenient. The Spanish flu was 2.5%, so your lower estimates don't make me feel any better. How is taking out those 3 convenient? There's 110+ other data points to work with. That tells a much better story which is also consistent with China's numbers. Italy and Iran are outliers right now. What exactly does the spanish flu have to do with a completely different virus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 For all of Canada's inability to deal with this, it does pale in comparison to assigning the task to Kushner: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/13/jared-kushner-combat-coronavirus-facebook-127941 Quote “Tonight I was asked by Jared through my son-in-law for my recommendations, that’s when I turned to you my fellow BAFERD’s for help,” he wrote using a nickname for Bad Ass &^@#ing Emergency Room Doctors. “Between patients tonight I have reviewed your responses and will summarize what I am sending to Jared for your PEER review before I send it.” “Jared is reading now,” Kloss followed up later. We'll see if this facebook group pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'NucK™ Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: The cough doesn't need to worsen. It's defined as a dry, persistent cough. The main symptoms according to health professionals I have talked to are the aforementioned cough, shortness of breath, a temperature of at least 100.4, and body aches. Runny nose and sneezing are not related to the viral illness Thank you for scaring me even more My temperature has been getting better tho, so I guess covid or not, I have managed to fight it off.. so now that makes me wonder.. can people recovered from covid still spread the virus for a few days after their symptoms go away?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, 'NucK™ said: Thank you for scaring me even more My temperature has been getting better tho, so I guess covid or not, I have managed to fight it off.. so now that makes me wonder.. can people recovered from covid still spread the virus for a few days after their symptoms go away?? Isn’t it two in isolation? Stay home, drink booze, watch porn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: you've also posted 'facts' from fake twitter accounts and have claimed Canada's not acting. You're on some sort of tack here, not really sure why but I suspect you're going to continue. You can feel free not to respond. I'm sure we'll have it out again. Do keep in mind I never levied insults or implied you were some sort of sadist that enjoyed this. No, that latter designation was reserved for me, something I won't soon forget. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, coastal.view said: because people need to take on some personal responsibility and change their behaviour for the time being and discipline themselves to create social distancing we can remind each other as we meet each other what the new appropriate way to socially interact is This isn't the time for a teaching moment. That time has passed. Relying on people to change their ingrained, subconscious habits in time is a fool's errand, and could have dire consequences. The best way to prevent a fool from cutting themselves isn't to show them how to use a knife properly, it's to take the knife away from them. Just now, coastal.view said: while this pandemic is ongoing The pandemic is ongoing because of the virulence of the virus. Just now, coastal.view said: everyone has the ability to learn no need to force everyone to stay isolated at home always and close down every possible form of diversion or entertainment Has the government stated that there is a curfew? Martial law? No. Shutting down aquariums and galleries is more than likely a necessity at this point. How that impacts someone's enjoyment at this point is irrelevant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'NucK™ Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Isn’t it two in isolation? Stay home, drink booze, watch porn. But who is going to test me for it if I'm starting to recover?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: apparently some insurance companies are waiving the co-pay on treatment for covid19. Which is basically universal healthcare...... Not really exactly... Still have deductibles to consider and some does not equal all. Guess better than nothing though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, 'NucK™ said: Thank you for scaring me even more My temperature has been getting better tho, so I guess covid or not, I have managed to fight it off.. so now that makes me wonder.. can people recovered from covid still spread the virus for a few days after their symptoms go away?? Call 811, Nuck. They'll give you the lowdown. Not trying to scare you. Just giving you the facts. The people on 811 will let you know what your best course of action is. The fact that your temperature is decreasing is a great sign though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Well, now the weekend will be a sports wasteland. BBC link Coronavirus: Premier League and EFL suspended in England - Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland halt games Elite football in Britain has been suspended until at least 3 April as a result of the spread of coronavirus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: This isn't the time for a teaching moment. That time has passed. Relying on people to change their ingrained, subconscious habits in time is a fool's errand, and could have dire consequences. T i don't agree increased hand washing is recommended and many people will adopt that habit social distancing is also recommended and people can learn that you want them to learn to not go to facilities because you want them closed people learn constantly not sure why you think people are limited in their ability to learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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