Russ Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, kingofsurrey said: Dr. B from day one was not for compulsory masks . Sad that people are not smart enough to follow experienced scientists outside of BC that supported masks earlier on.. Mandatory Mask on BC transit Horgans huge Fail of invitiing all of Alberta to come party / holiday in BC last summer Mandatory masks in public space / stores Masks , barriers and social distancing in Middle / High Schools. Improved ventilation in public offices and schools. Failure to limit / eliminate certain international flights / countries flying into BC / Did BC gov even lobby for this to happen....? All would have been usefull policy by our BC gov ... Its like Horgan refused to acknowledge that Covid was spread throught the air.... and that mandatory masks could limit the spread.... Well you should know as well as I that this is completely federal jurisdiction. Hell BC started doing the names and numbers and contact tracing well before the Feds did eventhough it was not the province jurisdictions. You got to give them some credit for getting that ball rolling before Trudeau stepped up and did it at the federal level. Also how do you improve ventilation without doing a major retrofit and reno job? I guess stick an a/c unit out a window and just keep blowing the inside air out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, StealthNuck said: Still, Global shouldn't be giving these idiots any air-time. But I want to learn about the illuminati! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swizzey Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) It’s a 99.5% survival rate if you are under 70 years old. That is higher odds than the flu. Open the country and get back to normal already. We don’t shut the country down for every flu season. Let’s move on. Edited October 20, 2020 by swizzey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, swizzey said: It’s a 99.5% survival rate if you are under 70 years old Please provide a link, backing up those numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, falcon45ca said: Dude! Me wrikey Sick eh! Stopped by Out of Bounds Sports on a whim and bumped into a 3pk of em. Way better than the Shoppers Drug Mart public shame masks I've been wearing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swizzey Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, gurn said: Please provide a link, backing up those numbers. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.krtv.com/news/coronavirus/cdc-covid-19-chronic-medical-conditions-and-survival-rates%3f_amp=true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, luckylager said: Sick eh! Stopped by Out of Bounds Sports on a whim and bumped into a 3pk of em. Way better than the Shoppers Drug Mart public shame masks I've been wearing. Nice find, seem to be sold out on a different site. Listed at $30 for 1 mask too...That said I would consider it if I could find em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Canuckster86 said: Nice find, seem to be sold out on a different site. Listed at $30 for 1 mask too...That said I would consider it if I could find em Out of Bounds in Victoria has a few 3pks left. $30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, swizzey said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.krtv.com/news/coronavirus/cdc-covid-19-chronic-medical-conditions-and-survival-rates%3f_amp=true Try this one https://nationalpost.com/health/study-confirms-massive-age-differences-in-covid-19-death-rates-middle-aged-hit-harder-than-thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, luckylager said: Out of Bounds in Victoria has a few 3pks left. $30 ahh, live in the okanagan unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Canuckster86 said: ahh, live in the okanagan unfortunately They might mail order. Most businesses do. Google em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, gurn said: Please provide a link, backing up those numbers. Case fatality rate depends on the country and age. But worst for under 70 is 3.6 percent in China for ages 60-69. 50-59 is 1.3% in China again. 40-49 is .4% and goes down .2% from 10-19 - those are point four and point 2. In some countries like Italy it is 0% for 10-19. And from 0-9 it is 0% for most countries with verified data. 70-79 it ranges from 4.8% to 12.8% depending on country. 80 years plus ranges from 13% to 20%. Italy is the highest. Edited October 20, 2020 by samurai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, samurai said: Case fatality rate depends on the country and age. But worst for under 70 is 3.6 percent in China for ages 60-69. 50-59 is 1.3% in China again. 40-49 is .4% and goes down .2% from 10-19 - those are point four and point 2. In some countries like Italy it is 0% for 10-19. And from 0-9 it is 0% for most countries with verified data. 70-79 it ranges from 4.8% to 12.8% depending on country. 80 years plus ranges from 13% to 20%. Italy is the highest. Case fatality is also a simplistic way of looking at covid data as more and more research is indicating long term health issues even with those surviving Covid. So just looking at deaths is a way for Herd Immunity advocates to push their agenda. Keep the businesses open.... no need for masks... let the over 80 yr olds face potential death.... My brother falls into this category of person that likes to discount the potential of death due to his younger age.... Edited October 20, 2020 by kingofsurrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, swizzey said: It’s a 99.5% survival rate if you are under 70 years old. That is higher odds than the flu. Open the country and get back to normal already. We don’t shut the country down for every flu season. Let’s move on. I think you're missing the fact that there could be long term health implications for people of all ages and they're still figuring it all out. Do you not have anyone in the family who's 70+? They deserve consideration in all of this too! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 36 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Case fatality is also a simplistic way of looking at covid data as more and more research is indicating long term health issues even with those surviving Covid. So just looking at deaths is a way for Herd Immunity advocates to push their agenda. Keep the businesses open.... no need for masks... let the over 80 yr olds face potential death.... My brother falls into this category of person that likes to discount the potential of death due to his younger age.... So says you, but it is a valid and useful tool. As for your conspiracy theory - no need to comment on that. However, your brother does seem to understand the concept of statistical probability - good for him. https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/estimating-mortality-from-covid-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: I think you're missing the fact that there could be long term health implications for people of all ages and they're still figuring it all out. Do you not have anyone in the family who's 70+? They deserve consideration in all of this too! See deb, that's the whole reason I wear a mask and don't cough on people. I might not be old, but I'm not new and I definitely don't wanna go around killing people with my spittle. Do you have a Canucks mask yet? Edited October 20, 2020 by luckylager 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swizzey Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 6 hours ago, debluvscanucks said: I think you're missing the fact that there could be long term health implications for people of all ages and they're still figuring it all out. Do you not have anyone in the family who's 70+? They deserve consideration in all of this too! The mortality rate for those age 70+ with influenza shows a similar mortality rate. 90% of influenza deaths are over the age of 70. If you are over the age of 75, you are 250 times more likely to we shut down the country every flu season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swizzey Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 8 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: Try this one https://nationalpost.com/health/study-confirms-massive-age-differences-in-covid-19-death-rates-middle-aged-hit-harder-than-thought Okay so you want to use the study that includes pre-existing conditions. If you had stage 4 brain cancer and happened to have COVID-19, you are including in the head count of these mortality rates. If you committed suicide and happened to have COVID-19, you are considered in this study. In the source I quoted it takes into account the primary cause of death, not every death in which they found COVID-19 in the body. Do your research. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, swizzey said: Okay so you want to use the study that includes pre-existing conditions. If you had stage 4 brain cancer and happened to have COVID-19, you are including in the head count of these mortality rates. If you committed suicide and happened to have COVID-19, you are considered in this study. In the source I quoted it takes into account the primary cause of death, not every death in which they found COVID-19 in the body. Do your research. Another one of those "Our facts are just statistics, but your statistics are facts."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Another one of those "Our facts are just statistics, but your statistics are facts."? Actually, the article supports his basic ‘facts’. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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