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Schools are incredibly important for the mental health of our children, as is their education, obviously.  Schools are the hearts of their communities, they need to function in some capacity as long as they can, safely.  What I am deeply disappointed with is how they've done it.  There are better, safer ways to do it.

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2 hours ago, janisahockeynut said:

I am more concerned with when we get our Vaccines, than any petty squabbles, that are promoted on here

 

That is where my focus is now..........it is not that we know when they will be ready

 

But why we are not first to get them, or why we do not have a company manufacturing in Canada

 

These are questions that are so important and far greater in their impact, than KOS complaints

 

The past and present Federal Governments have let us down, and now we have to wait

 

I totally find it funny that KOS is slamming a provincial health employee, instead of talking about the Federal Liberals and Conservatives miss-management

 

We should never have been placed in this position

 

 

The general public won’t get it till late Spring at the earliest, in my estimation. 
 

 

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36 minutes ago, Amebushi said:

They will do anything not to close schools. This includes spreading misinformation about the spread of disease in schools, refusing to put anything about cases in schools on the news and also blaming teachers for anything bad that happens in schools. I am all keeping hospitals from being overloaded and saving lives, but please tell me what open schools do to save lives?  How does free daycare prevent the spread of this disease?  I don’t expect a response as I haven’t had one yet. 

You’re hyperventilating and not comprehending. Your irrationality isn’t lending to listening to the health experts, let alone those who are attempting to reiterate what the health officials are proffering.  For example, no one has suggested that keeping schools open saves lives...as if that was a thing that a rational person would say or has said. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, stawns said:

on the flip side, we'll also.have a month or so of watching to see if there's issues.  Canada also was smart to get access to many vaccines, rather than just one of two that might be domestically produced.

 

I don't get the uproar about not being equipped to produce vaccine........believe it or not, we are not a major player on the international scene.  We might be a month or two behind, but we'll get it.

Now, I only say this half jokingly, but

Have you even been to a wedding and been the last table to eat?

I can't tell how many times that has happened to me....lol

 

I do not want to be the last country vaccinated, only to find that the virus has mutated and its time for a new vaccine....that would psss me off! Big time!

That is kind of how I feel about that

Years of bad policies, regarding pharma.............certainly a national agency could have been born, with development facilities

They have been warning about this type of thing for 30 years

We "could" be manufacturing vaccine under a license agreement and sending who ever $1 for $1 and we would be at the front of the line

and possibility with surplus

 

This Pandemic response will dictate how I vote both Provincially and Federally, and whether it is delayed or early (For years to come)

 

And "if" the vaccine arrives on time, then the Libs will get my vote, but if delayed then the NDP.....the Conservatives started all the bad decisions years ago,

so it aint them

 

At least we know that the NDP will put average people first.......I am not totally there yet, but close

 

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7 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

Now, I only say this half jokingly, but

Have you even been to a wedding and been the last table to eat?

I can't tell how many times that has happened to me....lol

 

I do not want to be the last country vaccinated, only to find that the virus has mutated and its time for a new vaccine....that would psss me off! Big time!

That is kind of how I feel about that

Years of bad policies, regarding pharma.............certainly a national agency could have been born, with development facilities

They have been warning about this type of thing for 30 years

We "could" be manufacturing vaccine under a license agreement and sending who ever $1 for $1 and we would be at the front of the line

and possibility with surplus

 

This Pandemic response will dictate how I vote both Provincially and Federally, and whether it is delayed or early (For years to come)

 

And "if" the vaccine arrives on time, then the Libs will get my vote, but if delayed then the NDP.....the Conservatives started all the bad decisions years ago,

so it aint them

 

At least we know that the NDP will put average people first.......I am not totally there yet, but close

 

I won't ever vote Lib

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15 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

Now, I only say this half jokingly, but

Have you even been to a wedding and been the last table to eat?

I can't tell how many times that has happened to me....lol

 

I do not want to be the last country vaccinated, only to find that the virus has mutated and its time for a new vaccine....that would psss me off! Big time!

That is kind of how I feel about that

Years of bad policies, regarding pharma.............certainly a national agency could have been born, with development facilities

They have been warning about this type of thing for 30 years

We "could" be manufacturing vaccine under a license agreement and sending who ever $1 for $1 and we would be at the front of the line

and possibility with surplus

 

This Pandemic response will dictate how I vote both Provincially and Federally, and whether it is delayed or early (For years to come)

 

And "if" the vaccine arrives on time, then the Libs will get my vote, but if delayed then the NDP.....the Conservatives started all the bad decisions years ago,

so it aint them

 

At least we know that the NDP will put average people first.......I am not totally there yet, but close

 

The thing is, Canada used to have vaccine production capability, decades ago. 
 

I haven’t looked into what happened as to why we lost that capability, but I’m betting on some kind of shenanigans. (Insert Super Trooper shenanigans gifs/quotes, if you must- - Note: I’ll reply to all of them with, “Shut up Farva”)

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26 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said:

The thing is, Canada used to have vaccine production capability, decades ago. 
 

I haven’t looked into what happened as to why we lost that capability, but I’m betting on some kind of shenanigans. (Insert Super Trooper shenanigans gifs/quotes, if you must- - Note: I’ll reply to all of them with, “Shut up Farva”)

From what I read, it was when the Conservatives were in power, that Pharma left, but I am not sure if we as a country had vaccine capability, but we should. Especially, since scientists have been warning us of this day, and with SARS, and MERS, etc.........We should be growing our own response system, and that is on the Liberals too!

 

This should not be an issue, it should have been done, and we should have been ready. We have incredible Universities, with incredible Teachers, and students, we have such an opportunity to build this, as we always have.

 

And like I say, this could have all been done by License, with any world top Pharma. You do not have to build the wheel, you just have to copy it, but with permission and monitory remuneration...............

 

We have 37 Million people.......we could be producing it for other countries.

 

That is where we should have been, before this happened........too late for this one now. 

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It will be interesting to see 5 years from now when hopefully this pandemic is behind us - what about our society and government has changed?  Certainly the issues we have come across have held up a mirror and what we've seen isn't pretty.  

 

Long term care is probably the biggest national disgrace that we as a society allowed to happen.  

Concerns about delivery of education are rampant - clearly things need to change.

In country development and production of PPE and Vaccines - we should never be at the mercy of external providers - especially when other countries can strong arm and hoard distribution and supply.  

Right wing conspiracy nutjobs - not sure that will ever wane, but it certainly seems to have been exacerbated with COVID.   Not that I like group think, I believe dissenting thought and opinion is good as it challenges all of us to look at different perspectives but complete selfishness with zero regard for how one's behaviour can negatively impact others I have no time for.  

 

What other things do you hope will change as an outcome of our experiences with COVID?  Are there positives that you have seen that you hope continue?  

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16 hours ago, Tystick said:

What a great way to frame things for those seniors.

Sorry seniors, you're going to have to stay in isolation with no human contact, we'll treat your suicidal feelings eventually, because otherwise you're going to 100% get a violent pneumonic reaction and die.

Make sure you watch lots of CNN, never question what you are told, and DON'T work towards strengthening your immune system, that's dangerous misinformation.

 

Okay I think I got it guys. Makes sense.

How would you suggest these seniors, most with pre-existing comorbidiites, strengthen their immune system?

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'Personal betrayal': Hinshaw responds to leak of secretly-recorded meetings that show tension over Alberta's COVID-19 pandemic response

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/hinshaw-meetings-leak-covid-alberta-pandemic-response

 

"At the meetings, Hinshaw relayed that she disagreed with some decisions being made by the government’s emergency management cabinet committee.

According to the CBC, the recordings show Premier Jason Kenney, Health Minister Tyler Shandro and other cabinet ministers sometimes overruled the expert advice of public servants and pushed an early relaunch strategy that appeared to prioritize concerns about the risks of public health orders negatively affecting the economy."

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21 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said:

'Personal betrayal': Hinshaw responds to leak of secretly-recorded meetings that show tension over Alberta's COVID-19 pandemic response

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/hinshaw-meetings-leak-covid-alberta-pandemic-response

 

"At the meetings, Hinshaw relayed that she disagreed with some decisions being made by the government’s emergency management cabinet committee.

According to the CBC, the recordings show Premier Jason Kenney, Health Minister Tyler Shandro and other cabinet ministers sometimes overruled the expert advice of public servants and pushed an early relaunch strategy that appeared to prioritize concerns about the risks of public health orders negatively affecting the economy."

But BC is the anti-science province, haven’t you heard!?


Percentages and NDP and Dr. Henry and no mask mandates, oh my!

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1 hour ago, skategal said:

It will be interesting to see 5 years from now when hopefully this pandemic is behind us - what about our society and government has changed?  Certainly the issues we have come across have held up a mirror and what we've seen isn't pretty.  

 

Long term care is probably the biggest national disgrace that we as a society allowed to happen.  

Concerns about delivery of education are rampant - clearly things need to change.

In country development and production of PPE and Vaccines - we should never be at the mercy of external providers - especially when other countries can strong arm and hoard distribution and supply.  

Right wing conspiracy nutjobs - not sure that will ever wane, but it certainly seems to have been exacerbated with COVID.   Not that I like group think, I believe dissenting thought and opinion is good as it challenges all of us to look at different perspectives but complete selfishness with zero regard for how one's behaviour can negatively impact others I have no time for.  

 

What other things do you hope will change as an outcome of our experiences with COVID?  Are there positives that you have seen that you hope continue?  

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8 hours ago, Sharpshooter said:

The thing is, Canada used to have vaccine production capability, decades ago. 
 

I haven’t looked into what happened as to why we lost that capability, but I’m betting on some kind of shenanigans. (Insert Super Trooper shenanigans gifs/quotes, if you must- - Note: I’ll reply to all of them with, “Shut up Farva”)

Here ya go!

Cheeky and Fun | Super Troopers | Know Your Meme   MRW too many people are saying "shenanigans" - GIF on Imgur

 

Super Troopers | The 70s 80s & 90s Amino  Shenanigans Super Troopers GIFs | Tenor

 

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11 hours ago, Amebushi said:

The rules as they sit make no sense

I'm thinking this more and more.

It's obviously a calculation of virus impact vs the strain on the economy. 

Schools are tax paid daycare and there is no argument that there is some risk to the children and their families. Sending a kid to school during this pandemic is a very heavy decision for parents. 

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