Wilbur Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Amebushi said: Thank you! This is one of the most thought out responses I have seen to anything through this pandemic. It is shining proof that people can discuss difficult topics with civility. Overall I agree with everything you said. While my opinion may be that schools should not be open if the risks are as high as they say I can understand and respect the fact that leaving them open allows others (such as health care professionals) can work and earn a living. My frustration is clearly part selfish...I don’t have children. This means when I come home I have no little fun factories to spend my time with. I have always had a very small close knit group of friends I spend most of my time with. The previous rules meant that I could follow them and stay reasonably safe. It annoys me that any household with children can interact with children, teachers and hundreds of people but I can’t see anyone except my wife. I admit this is a selfish approach but when hockey is being played at the arena (no I don’t play hockey, nor would I be going right now if I did) it seems wrong. Why can’t we all make decisions within some fair explainable boundaries of what is safe for us. I think 6 was enough...0 is draconian. I am generally a pretty level headed guy, but isolation is driving me nuts. Thanks again for a thought out response...I learned something today Truer words have never been spoken...yet at the exact same time you couldn't be more wrong. Ah, who am I kidding, you're right...just don't ask me 8 hours from now and have had a chance to change my mind 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Sharpshooter said: Yup. I mentioned that yesterday. Still don’t know why though. The PCs at the time were on a major privatization kick. Which would have been OK had the gov't supported the spin offs properly, which of course they didn't and we ended up being reliant on the US for most of our medial supplies. We're utterly dependent on the US now for everything from medical supplies to critical blood products to vaccines. We do have small start ups but as soon as they reach sales they typically get swallowed up by larger US firms. We incubate tech for Americans now. Edited November 28, 2020 by Jimmy McGill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 16 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: I wonder when will things start to go back to 'normal'? 2022 Spring/Summer? next fall probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: next fall probably. At the earliest.........even then, I think we're past the point of returning to normal. The fallout from this is going to last a lot longer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Just now, stawns said: At the earliest.........even then, I think we're past the point of returning to normal. The fallout from this is going to last a lot longer do you mean socially, or? I don't see why the usual types of things won't go back to being the same. Its not like it was hard to go to a movie. Financially tho will be interesting. Say good bye to Pharma for all, e.g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wloutet Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 17 hours ago, debluvscanucks said: So Justin's statement was that "we can expect to have half of us vaccinated by next September"??!!! Could you vaccinate my right-half. Then I'll get the other half done on the next round! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 We'll be hearing about long-haulers for a long time.. This virus is an onion, has layers. Why are they still sick? The search for answers inside Canada’s first post-COVID clinic https://globalnews.ca/news/7479200/coronavirus-post-covid-19-long-haulers-research/ ...There’s still no explanation for why some patients still feel so sick after they’re not contagious. “That’s the million-dollar question, “ said Dr. Jane McKay, an internal medicine specialist and part of the team at St. Paul’s Hospital... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 5 hours ago, skategal said: Stawns, sorry to hear about your former close friend, although I suppose this is a strong lesson in consequences. There are still so many people who don't see the risk all around them. I agree that we're probably going to end up in a shutdown now that it seems that much of the spread is in workplaces. Hopefully it may not go to a full province shutdown, maybe more regional but no matter what, it's going to be a long winter since it seems a vaccine that is readily available is still a long way off. Now that so many of us are disgusted by the rash behaviour of COVID deniers and anti-maskers, next up will be the appalling behaviour of those who will try to fabricate reasons to jump the queue for vaccines. I know we're all supposed to "love our fellow man" but damn, that's hard sometimes. She's quite sick now and is in full freakout mode. She had to phone all the places she went to when she was starting to feel sick, after knowing she'd been exposed to multiple people, and explain the situation. Now those businesses have to close up shop for a few days. I don't even feel bad for hoping she suffers a nasty bout of it. She's earned it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: do you mean socially, or? I don't see why the usual types of things won't go back to being the same. Its not like it was hard to go to a movie. Financially tho will be interesting. Say good bye to Pharma for all, e.g. Both........the financial fallout of it is going to linger for a long time, especially if we end going to full lockdown this winter (which I think we will). Socially, for sure. This virus has shown many people's true colours and I know many people who have fractured friendships because of it, myself included 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Just in time for Christmas break. Pretty sure it's going to be an extended break for all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skategal Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, stawns said: She's quite sick now and is in full freakout mode. She had to phone all the places she went to when she was starting to feel sick, after knowing she'd been exposed to multiple people, and explain the situation. Now those businesses have to close up shop for a few days. I don't even feel bad for hoping she suffers a nasty bout of it. She's earned it Yeh, Karma and all that. What I find incredulous is that even not feeling well she still went out and about. With all the communications about staying home if you're not feeling well, it's pretty freakin' selfish to go out because whether you have a cold, the flu or COVID, you know you are exposing other people to your germs. I try not to wish anyone bad things...but at the same time I feel a lot less empathy for someone who clearly doesn't give a crap about anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, wloutet said: Could you vaccinate my right-half. Then I'll get the other half done on the next round! So, if I have this right, you'd be safe from Covid-19, but dangerously susceptible to Covid -9.5? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Just now, skategal said: Yeh, Karma and all that. What I find incredulous is that even not feeling well she still went out and about. With all the communications about staying home if you're not feeling well, it's pretty freakin' selfish to go out because whether you have a cold, the flu or COVID, you know you are exposing other people to your germs. I try not to wish anyone bad things...but at the same time I feel a lot less empathy for someone who clearly doesn't give a crap about anyone else. I was stunned to hear that a group of nurses from a Nanaimo hospital went to a halloween party in Vancouver only to return and cause a covid outbreak at the hospital. If nurses don't know any better...I don't know what to think. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 11 hours ago, stawns said: Just got a call that one of my close friends (former close friend) has tested positive and is quite sick. For 6 months she's been laying heavy guilt trips on us for not socializing and living in fear of a "flu". She's been living very recklessly in the last few months. So, apparently she went out drinking with an EA from Armstrong whose kid tested positive and she works with someone who tested positive she started feeling sick, went and got a tattoo, then felt worse and got tested. Who knows how many people she's come in contact with. Luckily her son has been staying with Grandma for two weeks, but who knows. I'm so f'ing sick of these people........not only are you putting the rest of us at risk, you're hurtling us toward a long, complete lockdown. Had everyone just listened to experts and followed the directions we might have avoided it........now, I don't see us avoiding a long lockdown through the darkness of winter. Sorry to hear this too Stawns. I live down the road from you (Kelowna) and so far 95% of the people in my area are masking up and being responsible. But unfortunately there will always be the rebels in times of trouble, the ones that don't believe or care. Or they don't believe or care in others. It just comes down to selfishness, they have their ideas and will do what they want, consequences be damned. I personally am tired and sick of all of this, as I am sure most of us will be by now. I would love to just do what ever the hell I want, but I won't because I do care about humanity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 I don’t understand why they would break down Vancouver into different neighbourhoods, but leave others cities, like Surrey, combined into one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 36 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: I was stunned to hear that a group of nurses from a Nanaimo hospital went to a halloween party in Vancouver only to return and cause a covid outbreak at the hospital. If nurses don't know any better...I don't know what to think. I was a little shocked when Dad was in the hospital in October and the nursing station on his floor had 2 or 3 nurses wandering around back there without masks! At times, in close quarters. I admit...it almost gave me a false sense of security where I might have dropped my guard. I thought, momentarily, "if they're not worried, why am I so worried?". Glad I didn't loosen up on things based on their obvious decision to do so. Was confused by it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, stawns said: Pretty sure it's going to be an extended break for all. Just like Spring Break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: Yah, mexico for a month - then quarentine. Then back to twice a weeks mens rec hockey. Cactus club dinners and a few at the pub a few times a week. Suffering throught the BC pandemic.... BC's covid regs are a sad joke. But have you voiced your concerns to your MLA? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gurn Posted November 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, bishopshodan said: We'll be hearing about long-haulers for a long time.. This virus is an onion, has layers. Why are they still sick? The search for answers inside Canada’s first post-COVID clinic https://globalnews.ca/news/7479200/coronavirus-post-covid-19-long-haulers-research/ ...There’s still no explanation for why some patients still feel so sick after they’re not contagious. “That’s the million-dollar question, “ said Dr. Jane McKay, an internal medicine specialist and part of the team at St. Paul’s Hospital... "“I just hope it’s not going to be too long. You know, I’d love to go for a walk.” I'd like to give a big F. U. to all the folk that keep saying it is only a small percentage of old people dying. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 hours ago, stawns said: Both........the financial fallout of it is going to linger for a long time, especially if we end going to full lockdown this winter (which I think we will). Socially, for sure. This virus has shown many people's true colours and I know many people who have fractured friendships because of it, myself included yeah its hard to not think less of some people given how some of them are acting. I was a little worried about my brother in law in the valley, but thankfully he's not following the herd out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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