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We'll be hearing about long-haulers for a long time..

 

This virus is an onion, has layers.

Why are they still sick? The search for answers inside Canada’s first post-COVID clinic

https://globalnews.ca/news/7479200/coronavirus-post-covid-19-long-haulers-research/

 

...There’s still no explanation for why some patients still feel so sick after they’re not contagious.

“That’s the million-dollar question, “ said Dr. Jane McKay, an internal medicine specialist and part of the team at St. Paul’s Hospital...

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5 hours ago, skategal said:

Stawns, sorry to hear about your former close friend, although I suppose this is a strong lesson in consequences.  There are still so many people who don't see the risk all around them.  I agree that we're probably going to end up in a shutdown now that it seems that much of the spread is in workplaces.  Hopefully it may not go to a full province shutdown, maybe more regional but no matter what, it's going to be a long winter since it seems a vaccine that is readily available is still a long way off.  

 

Now that so many of us are disgusted by the rash behaviour of COVID deniers and anti-maskers, next up will be the appalling behaviour of those who will try to fabricate reasons to jump the queue for vaccines.  I know we're all supposed to "love our fellow man" but damn, that's hard sometimes. 

She's quite sick now and is in full freakout mode.  She had to phone all the places she went to when she was starting to feel sick, after knowing she'd been exposed to multiple people, and explain the situation.  Now those businesses have to close up shop for a few days.

 

I don't even feel bad for hoping she suffers a nasty bout of it.  She's earned it

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16 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

do you mean socially, or? I don't see why the usual types of things won't go back to being the same. Its not like it was hard to go to a movie.

 

Financially tho will be interesting. Say good bye to Pharma for all, e.g. 

Both........the financial fallout of it is going to linger for a long time, especially if we end going to full lockdown this winter (which I think we will).

 

Socially, for sure.  This virus has shown many people's true colours and I know many people who have fractured friendships because of it, myself included

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2 minutes ago, stawns said:

She's quite sick now and is in full freakout mode.  She had to phone all the places she went to when she was starting to feel sick, after knowing she'd been exposed to multiple people, and explain the situation.  Now those businesses have to close up shop for a few days.

 

I don't even feel bad for hoping she suffers a nasty bout of it.  She's earned it

Yeh, Karma and all that.  What I find incredulous is that even not feeling well she still went out and about.  With all the communications about staying home if you're not feeling well, it's pretty freakin' selfish to go out because whether you have a cold, the flu or COVID, you know you are exposing other people to your germs.  I try not to wish anyone bad things...but at the same time I feel a lot less empathy for someone who clearly doesn't give a crap about anyone else.  

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12 minutes ago, wloutet said:

Could you vaccinate my right-half. Then I'll get the other half done on the next round!

 

So, if I have this right, you'd be safe from Covid-19, but dangerously susceptible to Covid -9.5?

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Just now, skategal said:

Yeh, Karma and all that.  What I find incredulous is that even not feeling well she still went out and about.  With all the communications about staying home if you're not feeling well, it's pretty freakin' selfish to go out because whether you have a cold, the flu or COVID, you know you are exposing other people to your germs.  I try not to wish anyone bad things...but at the same time I feel a lot less empathy for someone who clearly doesn't give a crap about anyone else.  

I was stunned to hear  that a group of nurses from a Nanaimo hospital went to a halloween party in Vancouver only to return and cause a covid outbreak at the hospital.

If nurses don't know any better...I don't know what to think.

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11 hours ago, stawns said:

Just got a call that one of my close friends (former close friend) has tested positive and is quite sick.  For 6 months she's been laying heavy guilt trips on us for not socializing and living in fear of a "flu".  She's been living very recklessly in the last few months.  So, apparently she went out drinking with an EA from Armstrong whose kid tested positive and she works with someone who tested positive she started feeling sick, went and got a tattoo, then felt worse and got tested.  Who knows how many people she's come in contact with.

 

Luckily her son has been staying with Grandma for two weeks, but who knows.  I'm so f'ing sick of these people........not only are you putting the rest of us at risk, you're hurtling us toward a long, complete lockdown.  Had everyone just listened to experts and followed the directions we might have avoided it........now, I don't see us avoiding a long lockdown through the darkness of winter.

 

 

Sorry to hear this too Stawns. I live down the road from you (Kelowna) and so far 95% of the people in my area are masking up and being responsible. But unfortunately there will always be the rebels in times of trouble, the ones that don't believe or care. Or they don't believe or care in others. It just comes down to selfishness, they have their ideas and will do what they want, consequences be damned. 

I personally am tired and sick of all of this, as I am sure most of us will be by now. I would love to just do what ever the hell I want, but I won't because I do care about humanity.

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36 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

I was stunned to hear  that a group of nurses from a Nanaimo hospital went to a halloween party in Vancouver only to return and cause a covid outbreak at the hospital.

If nurses don't know any better...I don't know what to think.

I was a little shocked when Dad was in the hospital in October and the nursing station on his floor had 2 or 3 nurses wandering around back there without masks!  At times, in close quarters.  I admit...it almost gave me a false sense of security where I might have dropped my guard.  I thought, momentarily, "if they're not worried, why am I so worried?".  Glad I didn't loosen up on things based on their obvious decision to do so.  Was confused by it.

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3 hours ago, kingofsurrey said:

Yah, mexico for a month - then quarentine.    Then  back to twice a weeks mens rec hockey.  Cactus club dinners and a few  at the pub a few times a week. 

Suffering throught the BC pandemic....   BC's covid regs are a sad joke. 

 

 

 

 

But have you voiced your concerns to your MLA? 

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2 hours ago, stawns said:

Both........the financial fallout of it is going to linger for a long time, especially if we end going to full lockdown this winter (which I think we will).

 

Socially, for sure.  This virus has shown many people's true colours and I know many people who have fractured friendships because of it, myself included

yeah its hard to not think less of some people given how some of them are acting. I was a little worried about my brother in law in the valley, but thankfully he's not following the herd out there. 

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1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

I don’t understand why they would break down Vancouver into different neighbourhoods, but leave others cities, like Surrey, combined into one.

 

when there's that many cases a few blocks are probably not all that useful epidemiologically 

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5 hours ago, Russ said:

IMO won't happen.  US/UK and some other countries have already secured essentially the first years supply with their orders last I heard, Canada was lagging behind as always.  If we get 1/4 done by next September I would consider that a success.  I have no interest in being vaccinated first round, I will wait till 2nd or 3rd round of doses to come out, rather let others be the guinnie pigs in this instance (but I will get vaccinated I have zero issues with that, just not going to be first round of these ones coming out, I will shoot for early 2022 hopefully).

 

And these restrictions are crap, if they were really serious maybe they would stop people from going on vacations to other countries.  Until that happens its hard to take the government serious. 

On the other hand, the US will never use all of their vaccines, due to the +40% refusal rate...'cause conspiracy theory(s) or against their constitutional rights.:frantic:  Canada only needs to acquire 10% and Mexico can take the remaining +30%. :gocan:

 

 

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2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

yeah its hard to not think less of some people given how some of them are acting. I was a little worried about my brother in law in the valley, but thankfully he's not following the herd out there. 

But herd immunity!

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