The Lock Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: Why would covid be spreading so quickly now in other parts of BC.... ? Can they move rural populations into schools... as covid can not spread in a school. Could be a could strategy... In the past three weeks COVID-19 cases have stayed steady in Vancouver Coastal Health and doubled in Fraser Health areas — but they've gone up by nearly 500 per cent in the rest of B.C. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid-bc-beyond-hope-numbers-1.5824571 I think it's more a rural mentality of people thinking other people are "sissys" for wearing a mask and crap like that. Plus there hasn't been a lot of cases up until now, at least up here. People let their guard down a little too much. Nothing to do with schools. I know why you decided to talk about schools. We could be talking about the most unrelated thing and you'd still cling it to schools at this point. lol Edited December 4, 2020 by The Lock 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 694 new cases of COVID-19 in B.C. along with an additional 12 deaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 8 hours ago, stawns said: Honestly so many of them are so racist that Obama taking it would likely backfire and cause them to dig in deeper. Ultimately, when they're denied entry to their work, to restaurants, to theatres, sporting events, other countries etc etc, they'll have no choice. They should let Obama inoculate them all, just for s&g I would find it very hard for work and restaurants to do it. Sports/theatres/flying I can see it though. But yea Obama getting it won't change anyones mind I don't think. The people on the fence will wait to see any short term side effects first, and then you'll have your people who are already getting it and those who are hell bent on not. I don't know how you can force a vaccine when no vaccine has never been forced before. We have friends who wont vaccinate their kid at all, none of the baby/kids ones either which I find insane but all the power to them, so if they didn't have to vaccinate their kid with all those other ones how do you go to them and say they all have to get vaccinated with this one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, kingofsurrey said: Why would covid be spreading so quickly now in other parts of BC.... ? Can they move rural populations into schools... as covid can not spread in a school. Could be a could strategy... I've taken to walking through schools as often as possible. The inoculation resulting from that magical environment is almost like the fountain of youth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Hopefully in 10 days these vaccines get approved and we can start administrating them ASAP. Feels like there's light at the end of tunnel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amebushi Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Russ said: I would find it very hard for work and restaurants to do it. Sports/theatres/flying I can see it though. But yea Obama getting it won't change anyones mind I don't think. The people on the fence will wait to see any short term side effects first, and then you'll have your people who are already getting it and those who are hell bent on not. I don't know how you can force a vaccine when no vaccine has never been forced before. We have friends who wont vaccinate their kid at all, none of the baby/kids ones either which I find insane but all the power to them, so if they didn't have to vaccinate their kid with all those other ones how do you go to them and say they all have to get vaccinated with this one? This...right here. I am being told to put my faith in things like the government and Pfizer? Wackos have been refusing to vaccinate for things like polio amd measles for years. Where was the massive outcry there, how about the fines and demands for further restrictions? I know I’ll just get roasted again, but I will not be getting this vaccine in the immediate future. To those who do, I thank you. I will trust my immune system in the short term as it has been a hell of a lot more reliable to me than the government or massive drug companies for keeping up its side of a deal. Everyone can feel however they want, and I agree with Russ. His friends are insane. If people think I am because I want to see how this goes before assuming that there are not more side effects/long term implications/interaction with drugs im already on then you have that right. I’ve been called a murderer. I’ve been told my brain is melting, that I have no empathy for anyone and lost a few friends already but I’m still not doing it right away. Some will take it ASAP, many will wait a bit but in the end I’m pretty sure most will do it once it’s been around a bit. Putting a gun to my head (and many others) to force your ideas is not the great idea that some seem to think it is. Let us come to our own choices as making demands is just going to turn more relatively level headed people into conspiracy theorists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: I've taken to walking through schools as often as possible. The inoculation resulting from that magical environment is almost like the fountain of youth. Yes, of course. I am thinking of capturing school air from a Surrey portable classroom. Selling it online as a DR B miracle covid prevention substance...... 50.00 for a small container the size of a small water bottle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) Health is provincial jurisdiction so any mandatory Vax will be decided by individual provinces.. I can envision a electronic vax passport or ap on your phone. You need to show your E vax passport to enter a restaurant, store or Canucks game etc... No passport = no entry. So the vax will be optional........ but useful to most people. DR B will probably go on the record for not requiring the Vax passport in BC schools.... since she thinks covid dies when it enters a school.......... Just like kids can't transmit cold. / flu either right ??? Edited December 4, 2020 by kingofsurrey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, IRR said: Tired of the bullshiz on FB...so posted my thoughts re: the vaccine... Re: Covid Vaccine... 1) Before i say anything, of course everyone wants it to be safe / effective, first & foremost. 2) Unless you have a crystal ball (to see long term effects) & you can test it yourself, then you need to put trust / put faith in the scientist / companies / government involved. 3) Re: it's quick development...you need to keep in mind the large amount of scientist / companies working on it this time around. Also, technology is miles ahead of where it was even 5-10 years ago, let alone 25-30 years ago. We have tools we never had in the past. 4) You can talk about the potential side effects of a vaccine, but what about the potential serious side effects (long term) / potential death from covid. 5) Again, at the end of the day, it's not just about you...people have long term serious side effects from covid, people are dying from covid, people are losing loved ones to covid, doctors & nurses are struggling due to covid, teachers are struggling due to covid, kids & young adults are dying WAY to young due to covid & much more. 6) While you shouldn't assume the worst, you also shouldn't assume it'll be fine / it won't happen to me. As they say, assuming makes an a** out of you & me. 7) It's about the big picture & taking care of each other, not about being selfish / entitled! A month or two ago I was in the camp of "I'll take the vaccine but don't necessarily need to be first in line" so I really do get that perspective. However, the more I think about it, I'm fine being at the front (if I elected to be). I trust the scientific community to do it's due diligence. I'll also make the assumption that this vaccine doesn't contain anything ground breakingly different than other vaccines so that I'll guess the odds of negative long term side effects of the vaccine are vastly lower than negative long term side effects of having Covid. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, The Lock said: I think it's more a rural mentality of people thinking other people are "sissys" for wearing a mask and crap like that. Plus there hasn't been a lot of cases up until now, at least up here. People let their guard down a little too much. Nothing to do with schools. I know why you decided to talk about schools. We could be talking about the most unrelated thing and you'd still cling it to schools at this point. lol The Okanagan isn't rural, just full of god awful dbags 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, stawns said: The Okanagan isn't rural, just full of god awful dbags lol I can't speak for the Okanagan. I actually kind of look at them as not so rural outside of the obvious rural areas. I'm talking about Northern BC. Edited December 4, 2020 by The Lock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 It might be time to call in the heavy hitter 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, stawns said: The Okanagan isn't rural, just full of god awful dbags The Okanagan is as rural to me as NYC lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 694 new cases 12 deaths 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Iran, Russia and China are putting disinformation out there about COVID in Canada, spreading falsehoods and conspiracy theories to increase distrust in Government and health officials. Seems like Albertans are buying in hook, line and sinker. CSIS has identified the threat assessments (170 records). Russia's attempts are to discredit the west and China's hopping on board to protect their reputation. So don't believe everything you read...foreign actors. Was a report on Global news just now. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtis Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 For all we know Covid is still going crazy in China. I bet their deaths were A LOT more then actually reported. Maybe like the states numbers??? Now they are spreading fake news here in Canada. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, kurtis said: For all we know Covid is still going crazy in China. I bet their deaths were A LOT more then actually reported. Maybe like the states numbers??? Now they are spreading fake news here in Canada. yes, we don't need Chinese fake news here in BC.... we get enough fake news already from Dr B and Horgan...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thedestroyerofworlds Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Wearing masks costs almost nothing. Reduced cases priceless. https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/12/02/2015954117 Face masks considerably reduce COVID-19 cases in Germany 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 USA set another record for number of new cases in a day with 218,000+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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