debluvscanucks 60,868 Posted December 23, 2020 48 minutes ago, UKNuck96 said: What’s the storage temp of this vaccine? The Pfizer one being minus 80 means generally the people have to go to the vaccine whereas the Astrazenica one it’s ambient temperature for storage means it can be delivered to the patients which is more useful for the most vulnerable and isolated Quote Moderna's needs to be kept at minus four degrees for long-term storage but can be kept at around 40 degrees for 30 days Quote Shipping & Long-term Storage: For shipping and longer-term storage, Moderna expects that mRNA-1273 will be maintained at -20°C (-4°F), equal to most home or medical freezer temperatures, for up to 6 months. Using standard freezer temperatures of -20°C (range of -25° to -15°C or -13° to 5°F) is an easier and more established method of distribution and storage than deep freezing and most pharmaceutical distribution companies have the capability to store and ship products at -20°C (-4°F) worldwide. Refrigeration Storage: After thawing, to facilitate storage at points of administration, Moderna expects that mRNA-1273 will remain stable at standard refrigerated conditions of 2° to 8°C (36° to 46°F) for up to 30 days within the 6-month shelf life. The stability at refrigerated conditions allows for storage at most pharmacies, hospitals, or physicians’ offices. Room Temperature for Vaccination: Once the vaccine is removed from the refrigerator for administration, it can be kept at room temperature conditions for up to 12 hours. No Dilution Required at Vaccination Site: The vaccine will not require onsite dilution or special handling, which facilitates vaccination across a range of settings including pharmacies and physicians’ offices. 1 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mackcanuck 7,816 Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, UKNuck96 said: What’s the storage temp of this vaccine? The Pfizer one being minus 80 means generally the people have to go to the vaccine whereas the Astrazenica one it’s ambient temperature for storage means it can be delivered to the patients which is more useful for the most vulnerable and isolated See Debs post ^^ Edited December 23, 2020 by Mackcanuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUPERTKBD 27,545 Posted December 23, 2020 37 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: Or just live in Winnipeg Is it really living, if you're in Winnipeg? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kakanucks 994 Posted December 23, 2020 Has there been any updates regarding the warning Pfizer has for those with allergies?? With Moderna being approved, this gives those with allergies wary of the Pfizer vaccine another choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bishopshodan 9,928 Posted December 23, 2020 Don't know how much I agree with this... Canmore junior hockey coach suspended, fined following news interviews about team outbreak https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/canmore-eagles-hockey-coach-suspended-covid-media-ajhl-1.5851914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gurn 10,999 Posted December 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Don't know how much I agree with this... Canmore junior hockey coach suspended, fined following news interviews about team outbreak https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/canmore-eagles-hockey-coach-suspended-covid-media-ajhl-1.5851914 Story is wierdly written. I can't tell if the coach was suspended for violating the rules in place at the time, or for violating rules that were put in place after his talk with the media. Either way looks bad on the League. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
debluvscanucks 60,868 Posted December 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, Kakanucks said: Has there been any updates regarding the warning Pfizer has for those with allergies?? With Moderna being approved, this gives those with allergies wary of the Pfizer vaccine another choice. Except it likely contains the same ingredient: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12/suspicions-grow-nanoparticles-pfizer-s-covid-19-vaccine-trigger-rare-allergic-reactions Quote Severe allergy-like reactions in at least eight people who received the COVID-19 vaccine produced by Pfizer and BioNTech over the past 2 weeks may be due to a compound in the packaging of the messenger RNA (mRNA) that forms the vaccine’s main ingredient, scientists say. A similar mRNA vaccine developed by Moderna, which was authorized for emergency use in the United States on Friday, also contains the compound, polyethylene glycol (PEG). Quote Until we know there is truly a PEG [polyethylene glycol] story, we need to be very careful in talking about that as a done deal. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedestroyerofworlds 5,574 Posted December 23, 2020 Preliminary data suggests that 2020 will exceed 3 million deaths. 400,000 more than 2019. Remember when posters here asserted that there wasn't any real change in mortality in the US so therefore Covid-19 is a hoax. What do ya say now? https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/us-deaths-in-2020-top-3-million-far-exceeding-most-ever-counted US Deaths In 2020 Top 3 Million, Far Exceeding Most Ever Counted 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedestroyerofworlds 5,574 Posted December 23, 2020 THerE's ScaRY ChEmiCalS iN THa VaCcInE!!!!! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogs & Podz 922 Posted December 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: THerE's ScaRY ChEmiCalS iN THa VaCcInE!!!!! Glad you're feeling comfortable with the vaccine. So I assume you'll be getting the shot? If so, should you feel so inclined, maybe share with the rest here on cdc as to how you felt after getting it. E.g. side affects if any. I'm not nearly a brave as you so would be much appreciated. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
debluvscanucks 60,868 Posted December 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hogs & Podz said: Glad you're feeling comfortable with the vaccine. So I assume you'll be getting the shot? If so, should you feel so inclined, maybe share with the rest here on cdc as to how you felt after getting it. E.g. side affects if any. I'm not nearly a brave as you so would be much appreciated. I gladly will. And I must say, I had my first ever flu shot this year and had a bit of a reaction but even that's not enough to scare me off. This is a no brainer for me. The unknowns still to be unearthed about this novel "corona virus" are much more fear inducing to me than a vaccine formulated by scientists in a lab to help prevent against it. 2 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedestroyerofworlds 5,574 Posted December 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Hogs & Podz said: Glad you're feeling comfortable with the vaccine. So I assume you'll be getting the shot? If so, should you feel so inclined, maybe share with the rest here on cdc as to how you felt after getting it. E.g. side affects if any. I'm not nearly a brave as you so would be much appreciated. Millions of doses will have already been administered by the time that you or I get access to the shot. Someone who has already got the shot is Sir Ian McKellen, Gandalf and Magneto approves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogs & Podz 922 Posted December 23, 2020 Just now, thedestroyerofworlds said: Millions of doses will have already been administered by the time that you or I get access to the shot. Someone who has already got the shot is Sir Ian McKellen, Gandalf and Magneto approves. Yes... But I'd prefer hearing from posters here... The horses mouth so to speak.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedestroyerofworlds 5,574 Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hogs & Podz said: Yes... But I'd prefer hearing from posters here... The horses mouth so to speak.... Anecdotal evidence is alright, I guess. However, there will be millions of data points (millions of people who will have already had the vaccine) that will give you the information to make an informed decision. The number of severe allergic reactions, thus far, can be easily counted with your hands versus the million or so doses that have been administered. Compare that to the 3000ish people who died yesterday in the US from Covid. It is a no brainer which choice to take. Anecdotal evidence or not. Edited December 23, 2020 by thedestroyerofworlds 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogs & Podz 922 Posted December 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Anecdotal evidence is alright, I guess. However, there will be millions of data points (millions of people who will have already had the vaccine) that will give you the information to make an informed decision. The number of severe allergic reactions, thus far, can be easily counted with your hands versus the million or so doses that have been administered. Compare that to the 3000ish people who died yesterday in the US from Covid. It is a no brainer which choice to take. Anecdotal evidence or not. I disagree... This isn't a 'no brainer'. All the power to you, no judgement here. It's very important that we all respect our different beliefs. Judging or shaming others is not helping anything, just dividing.... We already have enough dividing going on. If you get the vaccine then those that don't will no longer pose a risk to you so no reason to be frustrated or judgmental towards them. I'm truly happy for you and others that choose the vaccine. You'll be safe from getting and spreading. You'll be at peace. I believe condemnation also acts as a virus in our society (ultimately more destructive) and probably always will but we don't have to be part if that problem. Like the vaccine, we have a choice, to judge and condemn or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedestroyerofworlds 5,574 Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hogs & Podz said: I disagree... This isn't a 'no brainer'. All the power to you, no judgement here. It's very important that we all respect our different beliefs. Judging or shaming others is not helping anything, just dividing.... We already have enough dividing going on. If you get the vaccine then those that don't will no longer pose a risk to you so no reason to be frustrated or judgmental towards them. I'm truly happy for you and others that choose the vaccine. You'll be safe from getting and spreading. You'll be at peace. I believe condemnation also acts as a virus in our society (ultimately more destructive) and probably always will but we don't have to be part if that problem. Like the vaccine, we have a choice, to judge and condemn or not. "Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and/or opinions". Thing is, not every belief is correct or right. You can say that you believe that the Earth is flat, and you would be patently false. That belief is incorrect and is based on evidence, not personal opinion. In decisions like this, critical thinking would dictate that taking the vaccine is a much better option than not and being at risk for getting Covid-19. This is a conclusion based on data and evidence. Facts don't care about your feelings as some have said. Reals vs. feels. Edited December 23, 2020 by thedestroyerofworlds 1 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stawns 22,063 Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Hogs & Podz said: I disagree... This isn't a 'no brainer'. All the power to you, no judgement here. It's very important that we all respect our different beliefs. Judging or shaming others is not helping anything, just dividing.... We already have enough dividing going on. If you get the vaccine then those that don't will no longer pose a risk to you so no reason to be frustrated or judgmental towards them. I'm truly happy for you and others that choose the vaccine. You'll be safe from getting and spreading. You'll be at peace. I believe condemnation also acts as a virus in our society (ultimately more destructive) and probably always will but we don't have to be part if that problem. Like the vaccine, we have a choice, to judge and condemn or not. You get there has to be a high threshold of people getting the vaccine for it to work, right? If a moderately high percentage of people refuse, then we're right back where we were........lockdowns, mask mandates, massive hits to the economy. There's no "just respect my opinion on this" for people, other than medical exemptions, who don't want to get the vaccine. This is, literally, a me vs we situation Edited December 23, 2020 by stawns 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skategal 1,837 Posted December 23, 2020 Personally, I'll be at the front of line with my sleeves rolled up as soon as its my turn. I've had the flu shot every year for probably the last 8 or 9 years, biggest reaction I've had was a mild fever that lasted a day. Had the two dose shingles vaccine last winter, sore arm both times and the second shot made me a bit sick for a 24 hour period. As a result I've not had any serious bouts of illness. The potential long term effects of COVID scare the crap out of me, to say nothing of the Russian Roulette of whether it might kill me. At the least I would hate to be sick and make someone else sick, that would be awful. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bishopshodan 9,928 Posted December 23, 2020 3 hours ago, gurn said: Story is wierdly written. I can't tell if the coach was suspended for violating the rules in place at the time, or for violating rules that were put in place after his talk with the media. Either way looks bad on the League. It is wonky. Sounds like the league didn't know what it should be doing. This guy pointed out some inconsistencies and he got in trouble. After that they put some procedures in place? They also think they shouldn't have to make any cases public and nobody can talk about it (gag order). Not a good look at all, given that covid is obviously a massive health concern. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogs & Podz 922 Posted December 23, 2020 Fact: fact is a fact until it's proven not to be a fact. Truth is we don't know sh!t. I'll just leave this thread... Sorry, my fault for participating. All the best to you(s). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
