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21 minutes ago, Nucksownyou said:

Why the hell is Canada taking so long with the vaccines?

It’s due to the delay awhile back in receiving the vaccines from Europe. Also, there’s been a pause on the Astra-Zeneca vaccine while reports of bloodclots are confirmed or not. 
 

Canada is receiving millions of doses in the weeks ahead. 

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6 minutes ago, gurn said:

Interesting bit about the Pfizer vaccine, had not heard that before.

 

Probably because of the political and then media pile on on AZ. 
 

the fact that it’s been supplied at cost and not for profit probably doesn’t sit well with German and American Pharmaceutical companies. There is a lot of vaccine nationalism going on out there 

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/nov/23/oxford-astrazeneca-results-covid-vaccine-developing-countries

 

just like we don’t see much of the issues of Pfizer shortfalls in production (in the EU) when they happen (and they did massively early on)!

 

Also to note the AstraZenicca isn’t in the vaccine business as they are predominantly a cancer treatment company.  The vaccine was developed by the university of Oxford and AZ while they contributed slightly to that are predominantly just the manufacturing part of it. They have had to make massive investments in order to product this and to some degree are learning the hard way about vaccine supply chains and that yield isn’t consistent. 
 

the EU seems to have wanted a scapegoat for their failure and while AZ hasn’t been perfect they seem to have been smacked around a bit because of this. 

 

 When my turn comes I’ll take whatever vaccine that’s given to me. 

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7 hours ago, UKNuck96 said:

Probably because of the political and then media pile on on AZ. 
 

the fact that it’s been supplied at cost and not for profit probably doesn’t sit well with German and American Pharmaceutical companies. There is a lot of vaccine nationalism going on out there 

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/nov/23/oxford-astrazeneca-results-covid-vaccine-developing-countries

 

just like we don’t see much of the issues of Pfizer shortfalls in production (in the EU) when they happen (and they did massively early on)!

 

Also to note the AstraZenicca isn’t in the vaccine business as they are predominantly a cancer treatment company.  The vaccine was developed by the university of Oxford and AZ while they contributed slightly to that are predominantly just the manufacturing part of it. They have had to make massive investments in order to product this and to some degree are learning the hard way about vaccine supply chains and that yield isn’t consistent. 
 

the EU seems to have wanted a scapegoat for their failure and while AZ hasn’t been perfect they seem to have been smacked around a bit because of this. 

 

 When my turn comes I’ll take whatever vaccine that’s given to me. 

30 cases in the UK in 18.1 million doses.  Statistically I believe that's far lower than in the general population.

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1 hour ago, stawns said:

30 cases in the UK in 18.1 million doses.  Statistically I believe that's far lower than in the general population.

6 of whom have died, unknown age of those people as of yet tho

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Vaccines will have side effects, just like anti depressants, diabetes medicine, anti anxiety, contraceptives, steroids, pain killers, blood thinners etc.

 

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1 hour ago, CBH1926 said:

Vaccines will have side effects, just like anti depressants, diabetes medicine, anti anxiety, contraceptives, steroids, pain killers, blood thinners etc.

 

Exactly. Mine only resulted in some minor swelling....

 

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FFS! :angry: This is just going to give the anti-maskers more ammunition.....:picard:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/health-canada-issues-recall-for-disposable-masks-with-graphene/ar-BB1fgMuP?li=AAggNb9

 

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Disposable face masks containing potentially toxic graphene particles are being recalled.

Health Canada issued the notice on Friday and said wearers could inhale graphene, which may be dangerous for the lungs.

Masks containing graphene may have been distributed in some health-care facilities.

 

More in the link.

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4 hours ago, stawns said:

30 cases in the UK in 18.1 million doses.  Statistically I believe that's far lower than in the general population.

Yep which leads me to believe it’s a mountain being made out of a molehill

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“Ninety British Columbians are in intensive care. The remaining people with COVID-19 are recovering at home in self-isolation.

"Since we last reported, we have had 709 new cases of COVID-19 in the Vancouver Coastal Health region, 1,052 new cases in the Fraser Health region, 147 in the Island Health region, 149 in the Interior Health region, 33 in the Northern Health region and no new cases of people who reside outside of Canada.

“To date, 856,801 doses of Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and AstraZeneca-SII COVID-19 vaccines have been administered in B.C., 87,455 of which are second doses.

(From Adrian Dix ^)

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18 minutes ago, UnkNuk said:

CBC's "Marketplace" did a short bit on masks and what to watch out for:

 

 

I question why media doesn’t do a better job following up on stories they air. I remember in the early days when N95 masks were so scarce Global did a story on a company that bought a machine from China to manufacture them and were pivoting to start production ASAP. To my knowledge Global never followed up to see if they have begun production and online I can only find an older story saying that they were still waiting for Health Canada approval. Do we have local production now?

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