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Just now, Petey40 said:

Lots of rumours floating around about this but currently no official word. TBH I think this should happen 

I agree. I'm facilitating a 30 person group tomorrow in a small room. If every person as 4 family members I'm exposed to 120 people.

 

It's bananas. 

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2 hours ago, Petey40 said:

That’s not entirely true, there are multiple accounts from China and Italy of healthy people passing away from this illness or needing to be hospitalized. And the mild cases can range from common cold to phenomena. I think it would be a mistake to make the assumption that you will be okay because you are young and healthy especially when dealing with a novel virus. 

What are 'multiple accounts' expressed as a statistic?   

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10 minutes ago, DonLever said:

But everyone can be affected.    There is a report from Canada that said the infection rate can be from 30 to 70% in coming months.  Just because you don't have it does not mean you won't get it.   And if you get it you can infect people over 60 who are the most at risk.

 

So it is very important to keep the virus in check.

Of course, agree, it's very important, but the data needs to be tempered with the appropriate behavior, tempered with the appropriate emotion. I'm not saying it isn't important. Of course it is. 

 

What's more important, imo, is the proper balance between data, emotion, behavior, and one's ability to assess risk based on data.

 

I went out tonight knowing the risk is still relatively low based on numbers in BC and in my local community. I didn't give in to the increasing emotion of social media. That side of social is very much like a virus.

 

Ultimately, though, you have to safeguard against the risk of "can" be infected, like you said ... the emotional component within the social collective will dictate the behavior of others. 

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6 minutes ago, samurai said:

What are 'multiple accounts' expressed as a statistic?   

0.2% is the current statistic. All I’m saying is it’s better to have a cautious approach to this situation than having a “I’m young and healthy so I can’t be affected” approach.

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37 minutes ago, Petey40 said:

CDC recommending sporting events not take place for 8 weeks. 
 

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2020-03-15/cdc-recommendation-no-sports-eight-weeks-coronavirus

 

I think playoffs are off the table this year folks.

EP you are a borderline troll.  You have no idea what is going to happen.  There are multiple options available for sports to continue.  Here let me show you

 

For example, test all players (that has been done) and keep on top of it.  In some places perhaps play in empty arenas (that is being done in Japan).  Ask people to stay away if they are sick and offer refunds.  Next clean all facilities.  Have hand sanitizer available everywhere.  Next encourage social distancing by having people enter at different times and leave at different times.  Have longer breaks so that there is no rush to the toilets.  Next limit ticket sales or use by lottery if necessary.  So at a canucks game instead of 18, 000 how about half or even less.  Limit food sales as well.  

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Petey40 said:

0.2% is the current statistic. All I’m saying is it’s better to have a cautious approach to this situation than having a “I’m young and healthy so I can’t be affected” approach.

source please - .2 percent of what age group.  For example under 30.  Of course you can be affected, but the probability of dying significantly decreases with age.  Last week in Lombardy when the 'bomb' hit they had two cases involving under 20s.

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Classes cancelled here across Alberta. Just a matter of time before BC does the same.

 

I am not panicked. But this is all very uncomfortable. Especially knowing that with the world infected, these closures may last until a vaccine - which could be some time away.

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Just now, Petey40 said:

Lol you’re being ridiculous. I share links and sources from medical experts and CDC and respected news sources about the ongoing situation. And I urge caution in an unknown situation. I am not a troll.

saying there is not going to be any playoffs is unwarranted at this stage.  

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3 minutes ago, samurai said:

saying there is not going to be any playoffs is unwarranted at this stage.  

CDC recommended no sporting events for 8 weeks and I said “There might not be any playoffs this year folks” the word “might” implies it is not a guarantee.

 

Edit: sorry I said “I think” implying this is my own thoughts and don’t mean it is a guarantee not to happen.

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22 minutes ago, samurai said:

source please - .2 percent of what age group.  For example under 30.  Of course you can be affected, but the probability of dying significantly decreases with age.  Last week in Lombardy when the 'bomb' hit they had two cases involving under 20s.

I wasn’t talking about people that were only under the age of 30. I was saying that not only the elderly are at risk. According to Chinese CDC they had a mortality rate of 0.4% -0.2% mortality in ages under 50. 
 

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-death-rate-by-age-countries-2020-3#like-other-viruses-covid-19-doesnt-affect-all-patients-equally-2

 

This is an ongoing situation and that percentage has a possibility of going down depending on how this is handled. But that is the current data from one of the hardest hit countries.

 

I did not mean to imply that you will succumb to this illness if you get it, I only meant to urge caution in an unknown situation and that everyone should take this equally as serious. My bad.

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10 minutes ago, Petey40 said:

I wasn’t talking about people that were only under the age of 30. I was saying that not only the elderly are at risk. According to Chinese CDC they had a mortality rate of 0.4% -0.2% mortality in ages under 50. 
 

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-death-rate-by-age-countries-2020-3#like-other-viruses-covid-19-doesnt-affect-all-patients-equally-2

 

This is an ongoing situation and that percentage has a possibility of going down depending on how this is handled. But that is the current data from one of the hardest hit countries.

 

I did not mean to imply that you will succumb to this illness if you get it, I only meant to urge caution in an unknown situation and that everyone should take this equally as serious. My bad.

In Japan they had 30 confirmed cases yesterday and one was a 'boy'.  To date they have identified 15 clusters.  The largest was just over 50 people where it spread from a live house.  Live houses, bars/eateries, welfare facilities for elderly, sports gyms (including a ping pong school/club), and symposiums make up the list of identified clusters.  So places with very close contact, with lots of touching of common facilities, and very confined space, i would probably add high humidity/moisture as a feature.  In the case of sports gyms these are very popular with the elderly.  In my area I would say 60 plus make up well over 70% of the members.  The live houses (two cases( are younger people.  From the nature of the club I would think it was younger people.  Numerous pro leagues are here not to mention major events have been held and none of these made the list  - not saying either way just that at this moment the clusters have occurred in places with similar features.  

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