Petey40 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, samurai said: The one big ? for everyone is of course the US. The issues it has with its healthcare and the number of people with preconditions are not issues that were relevant to even China - they got more beds per 1000 people and of course the precondition levels are totally different. My guess is that tomorrow if Canada stops US entry in and out it is to stop a rush on Canada - sound crazy? The US response to these things is always pretty bad (e.g. Katrina). Tough to say, Dr Henry and Canada’s chief public health officer Theresa Tam have said that closing the borders will not do anything at this point because the community spread has already started. And the US might face a more difficult situation than China or Italy because many people in their country have pre existing health conditions having to do with obesity affecting 42% of their population. It’s could be a dire situation for them but I hope not. Edited March 16, 2020 by Petey40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, samurai said: SARS which is very different than Corona but it broke out from Nov 2002 and lasted until July 2003 - this is my second lock down. We are going to be living with this for a long time. To count by years is probably the best way to measure its life and impact on countries. I think you don't quite understand what has happened. It 'may' appear to go away in the summer but it will be back again. SARS is not contagious as COVID19. https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/19/health/coronavirus-china-sars-mers-intl-hnk/index.html Besides, SARS was contained while COVID19 has long way to go. Also, SARS was not declared a pandemic, COVID19 is a pandemic. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassbs Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 i Work at a casino in Toronto, they just told us the casino will be shutting down for 3 to 4 weeks. Great Canadian gaming will not pay us a cent. We have to go through EI at 55% of our pay. Sucks. This company sucks! And it’s a Vancouver based company!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 37 minutes ago, DonLever said: SARS is not contagious as COVID19. https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/19/health/coronavirus-china-sars-mers-intl-hnk/index.html Besides, SARS was contained while COVID19 has long way to go. Also, SARS was not declared a pandemic, COVID19 is a pandemic. I was in Asia for SARs. My point to the OP was that this virus is not going to disappear in a month and will be around like SARS was. SARs for the record caused massive disruption in Asia. One reason Taiwan has been so successful in dealing with Corona is it learned its lessons with SARs. Corona is a game changer for countries like Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Petey40 said: Tough to say, Dr Henry and Canada’s chief public health officer Theresa Tam have said that closing the borders will not do anything at this point because the community spread has already started. And the US might face a more difficult situation than China or Italy because many people in their country have pre existing health conditions having to do with obesity affecting 42% of their population. It’s could be a dire situation for them but I hope not. Exactly, it is in Canada. The point being that one scenario is Americans who cannot get access to meds, proper health care and so forth decide Canada is the answer. Nothing to do with containing but rather preventing a potential massive movement up to Canada. Edited March 16, 2020 by samurai 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nuckin_futz Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Philippines president Duterte announces that Luzon to go into lockdown Mon 16 Mar 2020 07:47:46 GMT Luzon is the largest island in the Philippines, housing a population of more than 57 million people Last week, Manila was brought into lockdown but now it looks like this will extend to the entire island and impact over 57 million people in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PhillipBlunt Posted March 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 16, 2020 I woke from a red wine induced slumber. Checked my phone and saw a message from my sister, a nurse. Canada will declare a state of emergency tomorrow. We all need to batten down the hatches. This will be around for a while. We need to stick together. Rely on one another. Humanity is experiencing something all at once. Remember that. Help those who need it. 1 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) https://vancouversun.com/news/covid-19-surrey-closing-all-recreational-facilities/ all municipalities falling suit with closing rec centres, libraries etc. https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/03/15/10-b-c-casinos-set-to-close-at-midnight-due-to-covid-19/ this is some unprecedented s$@&) Edited March 16, 2020 by Chicken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StiffStick33 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: I woke from a red wine induced slumber. Checked my phone and saw a message from my sister, a nurse. Canada will declare a state of emergency tomorrow. We all need to batten down the hatches. This will be around for a while. We need to stick together. Rely on one another. Humanity is experiencing something all at once. Remember that. Help those who need it. Been hearing the same thing abt Declaring a state of emergency. What does it all mean exactly? 3..2..1.. Anxiety kicking in Edited March 16, 2020 by StiffStick33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 hours ago, sassbs said: i Work at a casino in Toronto, they just told us the casino will be shutting down for 3 to 4 weeks. Great Canadian gaming will not pay us a cent. We have to go through EI at 55% of our pay. Sucks. This company sucks! And it’s a Vancouver based company!! Well make a stink about it to the media like sports and Tim Hortons people have and we will see what happens. Apparently people don't realize every company in Canada cant absorb that cost of paying employees. Gonna happen with construction pretty quick here, loads of people will get laid off and go on EI, I know I will be pretty quick here most likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, StiffStick33 said: Been hearing the same thing abt Declaring a state of emergency. What does it all mean exactly? 3..2..1.. Anxiety kicking in Well, I guess technically it means invoking the Emergencies Act (formerly the War Measures Act), something that has only happened three times in Canadian history (WWI, WWII, and the October Crisis of 1970). In this case, it would be for a Public Welfare Emergency, which you can read all about here: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/page-1.html This would give the government extraordinary powers to take action to address COVID-19. Just speculating, I’d expect they’d shut down most non-essential public services. We’d likely see what’s already happening in many cities become nationwide policy: shutting down community centres, libraries, swimming pools, ice rinks, etc. I’d expect schools will remain closed past spring break. They could also order temporary closures of private businesses like stores, shopping malls, bars, restaurants, etc, while ensuring places like hospitals, pharmacies, gas stations, and grocery stores remain open. They might restrict travel and/or establish quarantine zones, if deemed necessary. It would also free up funds for the government to use to directly address the emergency, whether that’s paying for medical services and devices not currently covered under the healthcare system, or offering financial assistance/compensation for affected businesses and individuals, and/or a creating some form of overall stimulus package, etc. Lots of possibilities. Really only depends how far they deem necessary to take it, because technically speaking, once the Act is invoked, the government has a lot of power, to the point where they are allowed to temporarily suspend our Charter freedoms. Of course, that’s a really negative and “tinfoil hatty” way of stating things. They’re not going to turn Canada into some dystopian nightmare. They’re just likely (assuming the rumoured State of Emergency happens) going to undertake some fairly sweeping and drastic actions to protect the public, which is most likely a very good thing for the government to do right now. It just might not be much fun. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jaimito Posted March 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) I am a physician in NYC and have worked in Vancouver. I am seeing a lot of argument here on how bad or not this is, whether there is a playoff etc. I just spoke with my parents in Vancouver and was shocked people are just going about like nothing has changed. It is a pandemic, which means it is in Canada. People who have the infection is walking among the community. The problem with this virus is that so many that have it and will not exhibit symptoms or be bad enough to prompt people to see a doctor. So they just keep spreading it without knowing it. Don't trust the number of cases as what the current situation is, since there are certainly more cases than what is tested. Best way to slow the spread of infection is to assume everyone is infected. Keep your distance, wash hands before touching your face, avoid crowds, stay home or work from home if you can. Dont go to bars and parties. Postpone wedding etc. Don't visit nursing homes or elderly parents, call instead etc. If we don't, the number of cases will rapidly accelerate in the coming weeks and overwhelm the hospitals. Young adults may be less likely to die, but they can still get very ill. We see 20 and 30 yrs old here get really sick, who have no pre existing illness. Even if you are on the lucky side and had mild disease, do your family and society a favor by social distancing or self isolate. If enough people do this, the hospitals will not get overwhelmed. There are cancer patients, heart disease and strokes that may need the ICU beds too. This pandemic can easily overwhelm the system just like in Italy, Wuhan and Iran. The countries that did it have weathered this much better, such as Singapore, HK, Taiwan. Learn from all the other countries' experience. The response in US is too slow, but we have a orange man in charge who thinks this is a hoax. Now NYC is in shutdown mode, schools, bars, restaurants will be closed starting today. It may be late, but better today than next week. Don't wait for that to hit Vancouver, Toronto or Montreal. Help reduce the spread now. The impact will be much greater when it is done early. Edited March 16, 2020 by Jaimito 3 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MystifyNCrucify Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Ireland has shut down pubs, but the sheeple still plan to celebrate paddys day by basically hosting covid 19 parties at their house. I expect ireland to go on lockdown this week if not tonight. They have told irish citizens vacationing in spain that they have until midnight Thursday to get home or they cant guarantee when they will get home. Yesterday before they closed the pubs, people were out on the sidewalk drinking their pints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, samurai said: i have been eating lots of garlic that'll keep people away good plan it also ensures you will take a break from blood sucking people too a very unhygienic activity in a time of virus crisis Edited March 16, 2020 by coastal.view 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, coastal.view said: that'll keep people away good plan it also ensures you will take a break from blood sucking people too a very unhygienic activity in a time of virus crisis vampires cannot eat garlic. I can eat garlic. that must mean I am vampire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, samurai said: vampires cannot eat garlic. I can eat garlic. that must mean I am vampire. it means at the very least you are inactive as a vamp in your garlic consuming phase and that is more hygienic for sure Edited March 16, 2020 by coastal.view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, coastal.view said: it means at the very least you are inactive as a vamp in your garlic consuming phase and that is more hygienic for sure is that the best you can offer up? I enjoy a good slap back and you haven't delivered one. I am disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, samurai said: is that the best you can offer up? I enjoy a good slap back and you haven't delivered one. I am disappointed. hey it is 5 am here what do you expect i'm trying to keep my lids open while consuming strong coffee i'm sure i'll be more on point in a couple of hours sorry for being disappointing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 My son works for the CRA and was informed early yesterday evening that all non-essential Canadian Govt employees are not to return to work until April 3. The date could change moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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