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2 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Soooo.... I don't know whether to be to be pissed off, or proud....

 

Driving past City Hall this afternoon and I see a bunch of Covidiots protesting restrictions with the requisite "Freedom!", "End the Lockdown!" signs....

 

Pretty irritating...except for the fact that there were barely a dozen of the clowns.....

Isn't city hall closed today?

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Just now, BCNeil said:

Isn't city hall closed today?

Yes. But I misspoke. They're on the grass  in front of the Court House....

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45 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Soooo.... I don't know whether to be to be pissed off, or proud....

 

Driving past City Hall this afternoon and I see a bunch of Covidiots protesting restrictions with the requisite "Freedom!", "End the Lockdown!" signs....

 

Pretty irritating...except for the fact that there were barely a dozen of the clowns.....

It doesn't matter how many times the facts are explained to these morons, they instead choose ignorance.  They choose the position that doing nothing in terms of public health initiatives is the way we should go.  No matter how immoral and wrong acting like nothing is going on and we should just let a significant percentage of people take no action to help end this nightmare.  These people are selfish, entitled, moronic, a-holes. 

 

Change my mind

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4 hours ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Are you stupid or dishonest.  Vaccinating as many healthy people can provide protection for the 5% that vaccines don't work as well as the people who for MEDICAL reasons cannot get vaccinated.  In order to surpass the 70% number when herd immunity will start to kick in, the overwhelming majority of healthy adults will have to get vaccinated.  Relying on children will not get us past 70%  this summer.  Getting to herd immunity also helps to reduce the chances that the virus will mutate.  But hey, he's a liar, so let's just discount everything he said.

 

Care to provide your analysis.  

I'm vaccinated so there's no reason for me to care if you or John Oliver are vaccinated  because I'm fully protected from a serious outcome of Covid. 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2021/03/22/astrazeneca-vaccine-100-effective-in-preventing-severe-disease-and-hospitalizations-us-trials-show/?sh=3b95e3e24364

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4 hours ago, Boudrias said:

The reality is that you already have a long list of Canadians who have had their first shot in the USA. Snowbirds for sure but many more essential workers who cross the border regularly. Whether nurses in Windsor or truckers everywhere they have got their shot. If we can register for shots on-line then we can establish a record of vaccination. A bad reaction is a minor risk that exists on either side of the border. Am I wrong in thinking that these vaccination sites were set up on the border? A shot then a U-turn back to Canada? 

 

If this isn't politics then what is it? Not that long ago we were regularly told that Covid couldn't be broken until herd immunity was established. This would speed things up! IMHO the optics of thousands of cars waiting to get a shot at the border supercedes any political embarrassment the government experience. I can see some concern that vaccines ordered by the government might not be used if potential clients got shot in the USA. There again those vaccines could be used for 2nd shot use and that could start more quickly. Trudeau has already said that surplus vaccines would be shipped overseas. The American offer has been made to Manitoba, Sask and AB. I think it should be fully embraced and if necessary Canadian personnel located to record returning citizens.  

Good points B. I guess they are sticking with universality vs some quicker delivery of 2nd shots. 

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12 hours ago, Slegr said:

It seems like too much a coincidence that researchers were getting sick in a corona testing lab in Wuhan shortly before Covid was born. But given China’s complete resistance to cooperate with any investigations, I doubt the truth will ever be confirmed.

 

But what if China was found guilty / responsible for accidentally leaking Covid from a lab? A virus that has killed 4 million worldwide, and caused all kinds of health related conditions in others. 
 

What do you think would happen? Would there be any real repercussions / consequences? China is a super power, and nobody particularly wants to mess with them. I’d guess there would be some finger wagging and that’s about it.

If the source of that info was from trump administration, then it is as credible as the Chinese government.  Fake news. 

 

The WHO team were given the medical records of the lab personnel and it said no one was sick with Covid, and all had negative antibodies for asymptomatic infection. Of course, you can say they faked the results or lied. If you don't trust anything, how can you verify it anyway?  If this happened in US, they would neve allow foreign scientists to come in and investigate it. Likewise, China will not allow it regardless if it happened or not. It's hard to get infected in a level 4 lab. They are so well protected, trained and have stringent protocols. It's not a wet market where people are just walking in and out. Latest genetic analysis suggest the virus enters human population no earlier than Oct 2019. 

 

There is so much more evidence of zoonosis from coronaviruses that to dismiss that and stop looking into the immediate animal reservoir will be more harmful for preventing future outbreaks.  Stopping wild life trade will be a good first step. No one is saying SARS or MERS are man made these days, but those took years to find the animal source.   HIV was thought to be man made too by some (even now by those same crazy conspiracists), but it took decades to find the source from chimps.   

 

The response of countries to the pandemic is the true crime here. In face of evidence, leaders play it down and their citizens paid with their lives (US, Brazil, UK, India are best examples).    

 

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1 hour ago, TheFly said:

I'm vaccinated so there's no reason for me to care if you or John Oliver are vaccinated  because I'm fully protected from a serious outcome of Covid. 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2021/03/22/astrazeneca-vaccine-100-effective-in-preventing-severe-disease-and-hospitalizations-us-trials-show/?sh=3b95e3e24364

The whole point isn't convincing you or me to get vaccinated (I'm waiting to get my second Pfizer shot BTW).  The point is that we need to convince those who haven't and are skeptical of the vaccines.  The hesitant people.  These are the people that will need to be convinced for us to get to or get as close to herd immunity as possible.  The quicker we get there, the fewer unnecessary deaths.  The fewer people who may/will have significant health issues after "surviving" Covid.  The lower the chance of the virus mutating into a vaccine resistant strain.  That was the point.  That is the point that all of us should be getting.  So yes, you should care.

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2 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Soooo.... I don't know whether to be to be pissed off, or proud....

 

Driving past City Hall this afternoon and I see a bunch of Covidiots protesting restrictions with the requisite "Freedom!", "End the Lockdown!" signs....

 

Pretty irritating...except for the fact that there were barely a dozen of the clowns.....

Sounds like the less-than-10 Covidiots that showed up to protest in front of the museum in Quesnel yesterday. :rolleyes:

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Good trend. Hopefully the trend continues for the next week or two. Long weekends alway result in spikes.

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1 hour ago, Cerridwen said:

Sounds like the less-than-10 Covidiots that showed up to protest in front of the museum in Quesnel yesterday. :rolleyes:

I don't know which is more surprising....

 

The fact that Quesnel only has 10 Covidiots willing to show up at a protest, or the fact that they have a museum...:blink:

 

(BTW, I grew up in PG, so I'm predisposed to slag Quesnel any chance I get)

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1 hour ago, Jaimito said:

 

Good trend. Hopefully the trend continues for the next week or two. Long weekends alway result in spikes.

Yes good trend, hope we can get below 200 soon

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1 hour ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

The whole point isn't convincing you or me to get vaccinated (I'm waiting to get my second Pfizer shot BTW).  The point is that we need to convince those who haven't and are skeptical of the vaccines.  The hesitant people.  These are the people that will need to be convinced for us to get to or get as close to herd immunity as possible.  The quicker we get there, the fewer unnecessary deaths.  The fewer people who may/will have significant health issues after "surviving" Covid.  The lower the chance of the virus mutating into a vaccine resistant strain.  That was the point.  That is the point that all of us should be getting.  So yes, you should care.

Some would rather take on the risks of catching covid than be vaccinated. Why is it important for you to make that decision for them?  We are safe. The idea that they will be a breeding ground for a superbug seems lame. In the UK not half the population vaccinated yet the virus seems to be toast.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

 

 
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The drop in numbers is encouraging.

The combination of vaccines and social distancing is working.

It would be a tragedy if people get complacent and give up on half the solution by just trusting vaccines to do all the work.

 

We are so close, why risk more lives , don't give covid another chance to spike.

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Are we arguing against medical experts and scientific leaders on a random internet forum using false metrics and misunderstood numbers again?

 

Cool

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1 hour ago, Warhippy said:

Are we arguing against medical experts and scientific leaders on a random internet forum using false metrics and misunderstood numbers again?

 

Cool

By a "new" member nonetheless, who subscribes to the eff you, I got mine mentality. 

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3 hours ago, Jaimito said:

 

Good trend. Hopefully the trend continues for the next week or two. Long weekends alway result in spikes.

7 day average back under 400,  first time since November

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6 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Soooo.... I don't know whether to be to be pissed off, or proud....

 

Driving past City Hall this afternoon and I see a bunch of Covidiots protesting restrictions with the requisite "Freedom!", "End the Lockdown!" signs....

 

Pretty irritating...except for the fact that there were barely a dozen of the clowns.....

Some heavy set guy sing the national anthem by the name of Mark?:P

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2 hours ago, TheFly said:

Some would rather take on the risks of catching covid than be vaccinated. Why is it important for you to make that decision for them?  We are safe. The idea that they will be a breeding ground for a superbug seems lame. In the UK not half the population vaccinated yet the virus seems to be toast.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

 

 

We are far from safe.  The issue is these morons can possibly pass the virus to someone who can't be vaccinated.   What if it is determined that kids under 4 or 5 cannot be vaccinated?  The earliest approval may happen is late this year or early 2022.  Now these morons are risking these young children getting infected.   I know you'll probably say they survive by some 99.9 odd percent.   Yet, we still do not know the full extent of long term health impacts.   Are Covid-19 survivors more susceptible to lung cancer?   We need to do everything we can to end this nightmare, and getting these morons to get the shot is going to go a long way to making that happen.  Common sense. 

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14 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

Some heavy set guy sing the national anthem by the name of Mark?:P

I think they tried to book him, but we don't have enough cheeseburgers in this town....

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11 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

We are far from safe.  The issue is these morons can possibly pass the virus to someone who can't be vaccinated.   What if it is determined that kids under 4 or 5 cannot be vaccinated?  The earliest approval may happen is late this year or early 2022.  Now these morons are risking these young children getting infected.   I know you'll probably say they survive by some 99.9 odd percent.   Yet, we still do not know the full extent of long term health impacts.   Are Covid-19 survivors more susceptible to lung cancer?   We need to do everything we can to end this nightmare, and getting these morons to get the shot is going to go a long way to making that happen.  Common sense. 


Why listen to CDC recommendations when you can google sh!t.

 

 

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