4petesake Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Humans don't deserve Horses or Dogs. They are that amazing. Some people don’t deserve horses more than others. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Alflives said: The report says these issues were is already unhealthy people with heart disease. And they said the deaths were in the very old. These vaccines are friggin’ amazing! Anyone, unless for medical reasons, not getting vaccinated is a friggin’ moron. And people need to los3 weight! We are away too fat! Nearly 80% of those needing hospitalization from Covid were grossly overweight or obese. Big gulps and sugary drinks are far more harmful than these vaccines. God people are so bloody ignorant! Get vaccinated, and get your weight under control. Eat healthy and exercise! Drinking scotch is okay. Nectar of the gods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) I was on a horse once and only once, never again. I was 7 or 8 years old, we were up near Timothy Lake area not sure exactly where, but there was this horse ranch that took people on tours through the woods, my parents thought it would be good for me and my friend to try something different. I was already against it didn't want to do it, finally was convinced to do it, but about halfway through our tour, we were going downhill towards this creek all the other horses walked through it fine but for some reason the horse I had didn't. All of a sudden the horse stops, leans up on his front legs lifting his whole back end which already being on a downhill slope caused me to flip over the top of it's head and down to the rocks, it hurt and I was pissed because I didn't want to do it to begin with and then that happened. Never wanted to be on a horse ever again. Edited July 9, 2021 by ChuckNORRIS4Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: I was on a horse once and only once, never again. I was 7 or 8 years old, we were up near Timothy Lake area not sure exactly where, but there was this horse ranch that took people on tours through the woods, my parents thought it would be good for me and my friend to try something different. I was already against it didn't want to do it, finally was convinced to do it, but about halfway through our tour, we were going downhill towards this creek all the other horses walked through it fine but for some reason the horse I had didn't. All of a sudden the horse stops, leans up on his front legs lifting his whole back end which already being on a downhill slope caused me to flip over the top of it's head and down to the rocks, it hurt and I was pissed because I didn't want to do it to begin with and then that happened. Never wanted to be on a horse ever again. Lol …when I was 10 or 11 the neighbour decided to use me to break his Shetland ponies. Those stubborn ponies won. So much for horses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, spur1 said: Lol …when I was 10 or 11 the neighbour decided to use me to break his Shetland ponies. Those stubborn ponies won. So much for horses. Sorry I don't follow... What do you mean by break? I think I know what you mean like break up two fighting or something.... Edited July 9, 2021 by ChuckNORRIS4Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 7 hours ago, 4petesake said: 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: Sorry I don't follow... What do you mean by break? I think I know what you mean like break up two fighting or something.... Or, or It could mean to train a horse enough to ride. But if they are fighting, don't get in between them... even ponies can throw a mean hoof. A Shetland pony weighs about 400lbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Alflives said: The report says these issues were is already unhealthy people with heart disease. And they said the deaths were in the very old. These vaccines are friggin’ amazing! Anyone, unless for medical reasons, not getting vaccinated is a friggin’ moron. And people need to los3 weight! We are away too fat! Nearly 80% of those needing hospitalization from Covid were grossly overweight or obese. Big gulps and sugary drinks are far more harmful than these vaccines. God people are so bloody ignorant! Get vaccinated, and get your weight under control. Eat healthy and exercise! Drinking scotch is okay. I remember drinking those as a kid, god just the idea of it now makes me sick. I had a couple weeks ago, first one in a couple years and was like "yea nope not happening, this is way to sweet and sugary for me" I second the scotch though. Like they said from the beginning, alcohol kills the virus hence all the wipes, I figured it would do the same to my insides so a good ole 40%+ did its job I felt! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Or, or It could mean to train a horse enough to ride. But if they are fighting, don't get in between them... even ponies can throw a mean hoof. A Shetland pony weighs about 400lbs Yeah I just don't know what he was meaning... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kurgom Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 8 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: The first cluster was reported in a wet market a couple miles away from the highest level Bio Lab in China studying Corona Virus, that had multiple for citations for safety over the years (workplace safety has never been a strong point for China). I'm not a believer in conspiracy theories, but seems very possible an employee was accidentally infected then stopped for groceries on the way home or a bat escaped from the lab and someone ate it. Sometimes when there is smoke there is fire. The problem is even the data we have doesn't give a strong conclusion one way or the other. People like to act like the scientific community has a consensus about this but it's not true, still no natural natural reservoirs or intermediate hosts have been found and there's so many issues with how the WHO has handled this there's never going to be proof one way or another, so China already won in this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: Yeah I just don't know what he was meaning... The term came from breaking the horses free spirit in order to make them a beast of burden. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, spur1 said: The term came from breaking the horses free spirit in order to make them a beast of burden. Sooo....kind of like getting a job at Amazon? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 59 minutes ago, spur1 said: The term came from breaking the horses free spirit in order to make them a beast of burden. so like, a Rolling Stones fan? that's tough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 2 hours ago, bishopshodan said: so like, a Rolling Stones fan? that's tough Paint it black. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Ok this isn't to fear people but more to inform them, and maybe a good idea to talk with you doctor if you have any type of heart issues. Heart inflammation link to Pfizer and Moderna jabs The European Medicines Agency said the side-effects were more common in younger men. The medicines safety body said the benefits of Covid vaccines continue to far outweigh any risks. But doctors and patients have been advised to be aware of the symptoms of heart inflammation. These include chest pain, a feeling of breathlessness and a pounding or fluttering heartbeat. Anyone with these symptoms should see a doctor. Two conditions were linked to the vaccines - inflammation of the heart muscle itself, known as myocarditis, and inflammation of the fluid-filled sac the heart sits in, known as pericarditis. The EMA analysis of cases found: Pfizer-BioNTech - 145 cases of myocarditis and 138 cases of pericarditis out of 177m doses given Moderna - 19 case of myocarditis and 19 cases of pericarditis out of 20 million doses given Five people died. The review said they were all either elderly or had other health conditions. The UK's Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has also been investigating the link. It reported: "A consistent pattern of cases occurring more frequently in young males and shortly after the second dose of the vaccines. "These reports are extremely rare, and the events are typically mild with individuals usually recovering within a short time with standard treatment and rest," it added. Most cases are thought to be within 14 days of vaccination. While the risk is very rare, it is more likely to develop in young people - who are currently the focus on the vaccination campaign in the UK. Concerns about the side-effects have already played into the UK debate around vaccinating children, who are at lower risk of Covid. Myocarditis and pericarditis will be officially listed as side-effects in the UK and Europe, mirroring a move by the regulators in the US last month. "The chance of these conditions occurring is very low, but you should be aware of the symptoms so that you can get prompt medical treatment to help recovery and avoid complications," the EMA said. The link with heart inflammation was found only in the vaccines that rely on mRNA technology to train the immune system. There was no link found for vaccines such as Oxford-AstraZeneca or Janssen, which use a genetically modified virus. However, the EMA has advised anyone with a history of capillary leak syndrome should not be given the Janssen vaccine. This is a rare but serious syndrome in which fluid leaks from blood vessels in the body. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57781637 And just for the record as reported in this article the FDA a month ago added heart inflammation as a warning to Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKNuck96 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 9 hours ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: Ok this isn't to fear people but more to inform them, and maybe a good idea to talk with you doctor if you have any type of heart issues. Heart inflammation link to Pfizer and Moderna jabs The European Medicines Agency said the side-effects were more common in younger men. The medicines safety body said the benefits of Covid vaccines continue to far outweigh any risks. But doctors and patients have been advised to be aware of the symptoms of heart inflammation. These include chest pain, a feeling of breathlessness and a pounding or fluttering heartbeat. Anyone with these symptoms should see a doctor. Two conditions were linked to the vaccines - inflammation of the heart muscle itself, known as myocarditis, and inflammation of the fluid-filled sac the heart sits in, known as pericarditis. The EMA analysis of cases found: Pfizer-BioNTech - 145 cases of myocarditis and 138 cases of pericarditis out of 177m doses given Moderna - 19 case of myocarditis and 19 cases of pericarditis out of 20 million doses given Five people died. The review said they were all either elderly or had other health conditions. The UK's Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has also been investigating the link. It reported: "A consistent pattern of cases occurring more frequently in young males and shortly after the second dose of the vaccines. "These reports are extremely rare, and the events are typically mild with individuals usually recovering within a short time with standard treatment and rest," it added. Most cases are thought to be within 14 days of vaccination. While the risk is very rare, it is more likely to develop in young people - who are currently the focus on the vaccination campaign in the UK. Concerns about the side-effects have already played into the UK debate around vaccinating children, who are at lower risk of Covid. Myocarditis and pericarditis will be officially listed as side-effects in the UK and Europe, mirroring a move by the regulators in the US last month. "The chance of these conditions occurring is very low, but you should be aware of the symptoms so that you can get prompt medical treatment to help recovery and avoid complications," the EMA said. The link with heart inflammation was found only in the vaccines that rely on mRNA technology to train the immune system. There was no link found for vaccines such as Oxford-AstraZeneca or Janssen, which use a genetically modified virus. However, the EMA has advised anyone with a history of capillary leak syndrome should not be given the Janssen vaccine. This is a rare but serious syndrome in which fluid leaks from blood vessels in the body. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57781637 And just for the record as reported in this article the FDA a month ago added heart inflammation as a warning to Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. Yep posted about this a few days ago. as with all of the vaccines their will be side effects and it’s just a case of making sure that you get the right one for you. Yes people are worried about Az and clotting ( as their has been a lot on about it and 82% in April where there was blood clotting were with AZ the other 18% were with Pfizer) but for some this is the right one for them, other maybe the risk element is to high. same with the above information, it may be a side effect for a very small group but it’s about being aware and making sure you get the right one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKNuck96 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Even more reason to get vaccinated! Covid: Woman aged 90 died with double variant infection By Michelle Roberts Health editor, BBC News online Published 7 hours ago Share Related Topics Coronavirus pandemic IMAGE COPYRIGHTGETTY IMAGES It is possible to catch two Covid variants at the same time, experts are warning after seeing a double infection in a 90-year-old woman who became sick with the Alpha and Beta types first identified in the UK and South Africa. The woman, who died in March 2021 in Belgium, had not been vaccinated. Her doctors suspect she contracted the infections from two different people. They believe it is the first documented case of its kind and, although rare, similar dual infections are happening. Her case is being discussed at this year's European Congress on Clinical Microbiology & Infectious Diseases. In January 2021, scientists in Brazil reportedthat two people had been simultaneously infected with two types of coronavirus, one of them a variant of concern called Gamma. Researchers from Portugal, meanwhile, recently treated a 17-year-old who appeared to have caught a second type of Covid while still recovering from a different, pre-existing Covid infection. The 90-year-old, who was infected with the two "variants of concern" - the most worrying new versions of coronavirus that experts are tracking - had been admitted to hospital after experiencing some falls, but later developed worsening respiratory symptoms. What are Covid variants of concern? Is there a limit to how much worse variants can get? Laboratory tests on samples taken when she was admitted revealed she had Covid-19, caused by two different mutated versions of the pandemic virus, simultaneously - Alpha and Beta. Lead researcher Dr Anne Vankeerberghen, from the OLV hospital in Aalst, Belgium, said: "Both these variants were circulating in Belgium at the time, so it is likely that the lady was co-infected with different viruses from two different people. Unfortunately, we don't know how she became infected. "She was a lady who lived alone, but she got a lot of helpers coming in to care for her. "Whether the co-infection of the two variants of concern played a role in the fast deterioration of the patient is difficult to say." Viruses constantly evolve by mutating as they replicate. This creates new versions or variants. Covid has undergone some important changes that may give it an advantage - for example, by increasing its ability to replicate or dodge some of our existing immunity from past infection or vaccination. The most concerning ones are being closely monitored by scientists and are called variants of concern. Currently, in the UK, it is the Delta variant that is spreading the most. Experts are confident that existing vaccines offer good protection against it. Scientists are designing new Covid vaccines that will be an even better match for new variants, and could be used as boosters. Prof Lawrence Young, an expert in virology at the University of Warwick, said: "Detecting two dominant variants of concern in a single person is not a surprise - these could have been passed on by a single infected individual, or by contact with multiple infected people." He said more studies were needed to determine whether such infections in any way compromise the efficacy of vaccination, or make for a worse case of Covid-19. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Ohh, well that is just great f in news. The last few years have sucked. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 7 hours ago, gurn said: Ohh, well that is just great f in news. The last few years have sucked. Yup, and now two fires on my town on two days, both inside city limits 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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