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1 minute ago, Petey40 said:

You’re expressing things that are going against every leading health expert on earth. You’re purposely saying things like “let’s let the old weak and sickly die because that’s just nature right?” 
 

You’re saying things that you know are going to piss people off and you’re purposely spreading information that will make people take this less seriously and that’s dangerous. 
 

No I’m not.  I’m saying those groups are the most at risk of dying from everything.  They’re nearing the ends of their lives, and any number of things could end them.  If people are really unhealthy, this is nature’s way.  Are we somehow different from other animals?  But stop scaring the children.  They are at almost no risk.  And healthy people too are almost at no risk.  Children and healthy people might get a little sick, but they are almost for certain not going to die from this.  

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6 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Which is exactly why those healthy people shouldn’t go to care homes and places where there are people at high risk.  But to scare children into believing they’re going to get sick and die from this is terribly wrong.  We should be letting children know they need to be careful around those in high risk communities, but that they themselves are at very low risk.  

I don't think anyone is going around telling children they're going to die. But to tell younger people that they'll be fine and go about business as usual is a detriment to the rest of society. Complacency and slow to enact measures is what got Italy to where they are today. I don't want us to be where Italy is.

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4 minutes ago, Petey40 said:

You’re expressing things that are going against every leading health expert on earth. You’re purposely saying things like “let’s let the old weak and sickly die because that’s just nature right?” 
 

You’re saying things that you know are going to piss people off and you’re purposely spreading information that will make people take this less seriously and that’s dangerous. 
 

from a natural point of view though he is correct in that with the exception of humans trying to fight it, most species on earth have sick, weak, old that succumb to disease and the stronger and younger survive. The initial evidence showed that if you were in this pandemic under the age of 50 you almost don't register on any mortality charts. Once you hit 50 years old the numbers jump dramatically.

 

The numbers are right in front of us, I am not a fan of older or sick, compromised people getting sick and this day and age and where I place humans on this planet I think we can overcome and should in no way be ok with a segment of our population being almost sentenced to death. But its played out in nature all the time, I believe the emotion is behind not simply accepting the point being made. Obviously we don't want deaths, nobody does.

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2 minutes ago, Petey40 said:

Dude Justin Trudeau literally said earlier today that ALL Canadians should stay home as much as possible. He didn’t say “stay away from care homes and hospitals and communities with high risk people”. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Countries wouldn’t be shutting down around the world if this wasn’t incredibly serious. 

It’s serious because we don’t have the hospital and medical facilities to care for the number of people who could become seriously ill from those high risk groups.  Our beds are already full of heart attacks, broken bones, strokes, and other illness.  We can’t take on the added numbers of sick (albeit from only the small group this virus can make really ill).  That’s what’s serious.  

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6 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Children and healthy people might get a little sick, but they are almost for certain not going to die from this.  

And again, young people and kids do die from this, just not at the same rate as other age groups.

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1 minute ago, Mike Vanderhoek said:

from a natural point of view though he is correct in that with the exception of humans trying to fight it, most species on earth have sick, weak, old that succumb to disease and the stronger and younger survive. The initial evidence showed that if you were in this pandemic under the age of 50 you almost don't register on any mortality charts. Once you hit 50 years old the numbers jump dramatically.

 

The numbers are right in front of us, I am not a fan of older or sick, compromised people getting sick and this day and age and where I place humans on this planet I think we can overcome and should in no way be ok with a segment of our population being almost sentenced to death. But its played out in nature all the time, I believe the emotion is behind not simply accepting the point being made. Obviously we don't want deaths, nobody does.

Exactly.  And that’s why government wants everyone to be extra careful.  We don’t have the hospital beds to care for those in the high risk groups, if they do become sick with this new virus.  It’s not at all because healthy people, especially children, are at risk.

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3 minutes ago, Alflives said:

No I’m not.  I’m saying those groups are the most at risk of dying from everything.  They’re nearing the ends of their lives, and any number of things could end them.  If people are really unhealthy, this is nature’s way.  Are we somehow different from other animals?  But stop scaring the children.  They are at almost no risk.  And healthy people too are almost at no risk.  Children and healthy people might get a little sick, but they are almost for certain not going to die from this.  

Oh man that’s some horrible logic, I don’t even know what to say to that lol 

 

By that logic we should just stop treating every single person that has a life threatening illness because that’s nature running it’s course. Guess what Alf, it’s the 21st century now and we have the most medically advanced practices and technology in all of history. We can save those people now and give a big middle finger to nature’s viruses. 
 

 

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2 minutes ago, Petey40 said:

Oh man that’s some horrible logic, I don’t even know what to say to that lol 

 

By that logic we should just stop treating every single person that has a life threatening illness because that’s nature running it’s course. Guess what Alf, it’s the 21st century now and we have the most medically advanced practices and technology in all of history. We can save those people now and give a big middle finger to nature’s viruses. 
 

 

Seeing his posts makes me want to play Russian Roulette, but with a fully loaded revolver! 

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6 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said:

from a natural point of view though he is correct in that with the exception of humans trying to fight it, most species on earth have sick, weak, old that succumb to disease and the stronger and younger survive. The initial evidence showed that if you were in this pandemic under the age of 50 you almost don't register on any mortality charts. Once you hit 50 years old the numbers jump dramatically.

 

The numbers are right in front of us, I am not a fan of older or sick, compromised people getting sick and this day and age and where I place humans on this planet I think we can overcome and should in no way be ok with a segment of our population being almost sentenced to death. But its played out in nature all the time, I believe the emotion is behind not simply accepting the point being made. Obviously we don't want deaths, nobody does.

But since when is 50 old? Let alone enough to “let nature run it’s course”? 

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9 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said:

from a natural point of view though he is correct in that with the exception of humans trying to fight it, most species on earth have sick, weak, old that succumb to disease and the stronger and younger survive. The initial evidence showed that if you were in this pandemic under the age of 50 you almost don't register on any mortality charts. Once you hit 50 years old the numbers jump dramatically.

 

The numbers are right in front of us, I am not a fan of older or sick, compromised people getting sick and this day and age and where I place humans on this planet I think we can overcome and should in no way be ok with a segment of our population being almost sentenced to death. But its played out in nature all the time, I believe the emotion is behind not simply accepting the point being made. Obviously we don't want deaths, nobody does.

The above is true, however the furry one was saying, over and over again, young people and adults in their prime do not die from this virus; Which is a totally false statement.

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31 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Calling another poster a troll is against board rules, is it not?  Here is more recent evidence showing that this virus effects the elderly, and those with poor health, and not so much children, or adults who are healthy.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/11/21173157/coronavirus-health-effects-age-covid-risk-diabetes-hypertension-disease-isolation

 

The evidence is piling up.  We are trying to prevent lots of those people in the high risk areas from getting ill all at the same time, because our medical system can’t support them all.  Plus, our doctors and nurses get really tired out, and then they could get ill.  The virus itself, doesn’t do terrible things to healthy people, especially healthy children.  

Now you are just being ornery to be ornery. What about both my responses to you....the responses of other people to you...are you not getting?

FFS...are you being deliberately obtuse??? Because that's certainly what your responses appear to be. So the virus "doesn't do terrible things to healthy people especially healthy children", huh.. Tell that to the HEALTHY people who have contracted the disease and are on ventilators...tell it to a parent of a healthy baby who contracted the disease. Seriously, Alf...your behavior is trolling behavior...I am well aware of the board rules...been a mod on several boards including here....and I do believe that it was I who explained to you when you first arrived exactly what trolling behavior is. I've asked you twice now....please, just stop....ONE child is too many to be infected...ONE child is too many to die. Get it yet?

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2 hours ago, #Canucks said:

Okay so, a guy comes back from Vegas and comes to one of our builds the day after getting back. I asked what he’s doing here and why he did not self quarantine and he plays it off as whatever. I left and told him to leave. Am I wrong for doing this and getting upset?

If you don't have any symptoms at all then there is no need to.  And BC has more cases than Nevada so he should be asking you that question. 

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I am with @Alflives on this one. Social distancing sucks. I am also currently at the peak of my masculine prowess, not going to lose one of my (few) good years because of no damn virus. Easier for middle-aged married folks to stay at home. I will just be careful to not breathe on some old people. 

 

Edit: Maybe the guy on the scooter is telling us to not worry so much and enjoy our lives before we too will land on one of those scooters?

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5 minutes ago, Toews said:

I am with @Alflives on this one. Social distancing sucks. I am also currently at the peak of my masculine prowess, not going to lose one of my (few) good years because of no damn virus. Easier for middle-aged married folks to stay at home. I will just be careful to not breathe on some old people. 

your older parents gave up years when you were a kid. Now you say thanks by risking their age group's health?

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8 minutes ago, samurai said:

If you don't have any symptoms at all then there is no need to.  And BC has more cases than Nevada so he should be asking you that question. 

are you stupid or what? Gov't website, first bullet point...

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/latest-travel-health-advice.html

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