Popular Post thedestroyerofworlds Posted September 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, mdehaan said: 99.97% survival rate. Your post is perfect example of the enslavement of fear. This 99.97% survival rate is absolute BS. Let's go after it again, for the 948357982375982347598347598347259834759873478674537845987589375983475983475th time. 1) You provide no source again. As I said earlier, assertions made without evidence can be refuted without evidence. Provide a source or it is absolute BS. 2) You cannot count people who haven't had Covid as survivors. I haven't had Covid. All of my close friends and family haven't. Many posters here haven't. They are not survivors. 3) We can only work with the data we have available. Case fatality rate is about the closest measure of the actual death rate from Covid. Based on current data, there have been 1.6 million cases of Covid and 27,645 deaths in Canada. Simple google search for Canadian covid cases will get you the data. There are numerous tracking sites that report the data. Health Canada also. Case fatality rate = deaths/cases x 100% So 27,645 deaths/ 1,600,000 cases x 100% = 1.7% 1.7% is a far cry from the 0.03% you're claiming. Simple math demonstrates your claim is absolute trash. Until you actually bring some reputable sources, your posts are nothing more than trash. Refuted as such without providing any sources. Again, the data I used is readily available public data that is EASY to find. Even a computer illiterate moron could find the data that I used. I did way, way more work demonstrating that your post is trash than I should have. I'm sick of absolute BS trash that the covidiot/anti-mask/anti-vaxx crowd use on a regular basis. You will need to do way, way better. Cheers Edited September 27, 2021 by thedestroyerofworlds 1 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Peru 9.2% Mexico 7.6% US 1.6% Canada 1.7% Brazil 2.8% https://www.covid-19canada.com/ Anyone talking of a .3% mortality rate might as well add that 100% of the people on Mars have survived the virus. It is just as intellectually dishonest; but is perhaps a bit funny. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, gurn said: Peru 9.2% Mexico 7.6% US 1.6% Canada 1.7% Brazil 2.8% https://www.covid-19canada.com/ Anyone talking of a .3% mortality rate might as well add that 100% of the people on Mars have survived the virus. It is just as intellectually dishonest; but is perhaps a bit funny. I'll add that the reason for the higher fatalitiy rates in Peru and Mexico is the medical system being overwhelmed, specifically by the unvaccinated. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gawdzukes Posted September 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2021 How stupid the world has become. Sad sad days. People are getting sick, and dying from a threat to human kind. Doctors and medical experts create a lifesaving vaccine in record time. Morons and idiots around the world declare themselves smarter than the experts. This isn't the same as arguing whether JB should have re-signed Tofolli this is human life. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, gurn said: Peru 9.2% Mexico 7.6% US 1.6% Canada 1.7% Brazil 2.8% https://www.covid-19canada.com/ Anyone talking of a .3% mortality rate might as well add that 100% of the people on Mars have survived the virus. It is just as intellectually dishonest; but is perhaps a bit funny. The poster last page was even arguing .03% not even a .3% My lord the ignorance. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, shayster007 said: The poster last page was even arguing .03% not even a .3% My lord the ignorance. .03? Damn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted September 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, King Heffy said: I'll add that the reason for the higher fatalitiy rates in Peru and Mexico is the medical system being overwhelmed, specifically by the unvaccinated. Perhaps we should add hospitalizations to the covid death total because without medical intervention many more would have died. Anyone still downplaying this virus is a complete moron and deserves all the vitriol that comes their way. Along with that, maybe it's time that cdc adds warnings to any posts containing covid disinformation like other social media platforms? That, or a straight up banning. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: Perhaps we should add hospitalizations to the covid death total because without medical intervention many more would have died. Anyone still downplaying this virus is a complete moron and deserves all the vitriol that comes their way. Along with that, maybe it's time that cdc adds warnings to any posts containing covid disinformation like other social media platforms? That, or a straight up banning. I think the rest of us doing what we've been doing is more effective than moderating more. As annoying as it is, it's better if the users call out the antivaxxers if we want someone reading the thread to make the right decision. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Alberta setting a new record for ICU patients. For perspective, f the Humboldt bus tragedy occurred right now in Alberta the options would be: Accepting nothing can be done and allowing critically injured kids to die in the street Treating critically injured kids on the hospital tarmac and outdoor triage rooms Removing already sick but stable individuals from ICU care early to move in critically injured accident victims Which of those seems fairest in an entirely preventable situation? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-health-care-system-sets-another-record-with-312-patients-in-intensive-care-1.6191057 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, shayster007 said: The poster last page was even arguing .03% not even a .3% My lord the ignorance. In the States 1/500 people have died from Covid. And that’s with all the modern medical technologies they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 B.C. COVID-19 pandemic update: As of Monday, Sept. 27, 2021, 87.7% (4,064,859) of eligible people 12 and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 80.5% (3,729,606) have received their second dose. In addition, 88.2% (3,815,333) of all eligible adults in B.C. have received their first dose and 81.3% (3,515,026) have received their second dose. Over a three-day period, B.C. is reporting 2,239 new cases of COVID-19, for a total of 184,780 cases in the province: Sept. 24-25: 876 new cases Sept. 25-26: 657 new cases Sept. 26-27: 706 new cases Note: The numbers of total and new cases are provisional due to a delayed data refresh and will be verified once confirmed. There are 6,098 active cases of COVID-19 in the province and 176,354 people who tested positive have recovered. Of the active cases, 303 individuals are in hospital and 141 are in intensive care. The remaining people are recovering at home in self-isolation. Note: Intensive care numbers are a subset of the total in hospital. They are not in addition to the number of people in hospital. The new/active cases include: 857 new cases in Fraser Health Total active cases: 2,218 256 new cases in Vancouver Coastal Health Total active cases: 843 525 new cases in Interior Health Total active cases: 1,159 358 new cases in Northern Health Total active cases: 1,165 230 new cases in Island Health Total active cases: 657 13 new cases of people who reside outside of Canada Total active cases: 56 In the past 72 hours, 18 new deaths have been reported, for an overall total of 1,940. The new deaths include: Fraser Health: three Interior Health: five Island Health: three Vancouver Coastal Health: six Northern Health: one There have been five new health-care facility outbreaks at The Residence in Mission, Hallmark on the Lake, Maple Ridge Christian School, Magnolia Gardens (Fraser Health) and Cooper Place (Vancouver Coastal Health). Five outbreaks have been declared over at Chilliwack General Hospital, Northcrest Care Centre (Fraser Health), Spring Valley Care Centre, David Lloyd Jones Home and Sun Pointe Village (Interior Health). There are a total of 21 active outbreaks, including: long-term care: Westminster House, Menno Terrace East, The Residence in Mission, Magnolia Gardens (Fraser Health), Arbutus Care Centre, Louis Brier Home and Hospital (Vancouver Coastal Health), Village at Mill Creek – second floor, Cottonwoods Care Centre, Kamloops Seniors Village, Hillside Village, The Hamlets at Westsyde, Joseph Creek Care Village, Overlander (Interior Health), Jubilee Lodge (Northern Health) and Victoria Chinatown Care Centre (Island Health) acute care: Fort St. John Hospital (Northern Health) assisted or independent living: Sunset Manor, Hallmark on the Lake (Fraser Health), Hardy View Lodge (Interior Health), Cooper Place (Vancouver Coastal Health) School or daycare: Maple Ridge Christian School (Fraser Health) Breakthrough cases analysis is not available today, however, it is expected to be included in tomorrow’s information bulletin. Since December 2020, the Province has administered 7,802,535 doses of Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines. https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0059-001860 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Alberta setting a new record for ICU patients. For perspective, f the Humboldt bus tragedy occurred right now in Alberta the options would be: Accepting nothing can be done and allowing critically injured kids to die in the street Treating critically injured kids on the hospital tarmac and outdoor triage rooms Removing already sick but stable individuals from ICU care early to move in critically injured accident victims Which of those seems fairest in an entirely preventable situation? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-health-care-system-sets-another-record-with-312-patients-in-intensive-care-1.6191057 which one has the most "freedom"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) Big study of about 3 million cases. look at those nfection numbers and hospitalization rates for vaccinated people. 37/1,000 vaccinated get breakthrough infections, and 7/10,000 vaccinated get serious disease. And this is in older people! These vaccines are incredibly effective at both limiting transmission, and preventing serious disease. https://profiles.stanford.edu/jake-scott Sep 26 “Covid-19 vaccine breakthrough infections in Veterans Health Administration” (pre-print) Retrospective cohort study of ~3 million fully vaccinated people (median age 70) from 1/1/21-8/31/21 Post-vax infection in only 0.37% Hospitalization in 0.07% Edited September 27, 2021 by Alflives 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mj2345 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Looks like Canadian NBA Player Andrew Wiggins is going to miss atleast 41 games this year all because he won’t take a shot that may give him side effects for a day or two..Warriors should just get rid of him, he clearly selfish and not thinking of the team 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhuis Hip Check Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, Mj2345 said: Looks like Canadian NBA Player Andrew Wiggins is going to miss atleast 41 games this year all because he won’t take a shot that may give him side effects for a day or two..Warriors should just get rid of him, he clearly selfish and not thinking of the team I honestly dont know if i should laugh because he is going to take a big hit financially or cry because all of human evolution has lead to a quarter of the population willing to throw themselves into traffic blindfolded rather than take even the simplest safety precautions seriously. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, Hamhuis Hip Check said: I honestly dont know if i should laugh because he is going to take a big hit financially or cry because all of human evolution has lead to a quarter of the population willing to throw themselves into traffic blindfolded rather than take even the simplest safety precautions seriously. look on the bright side, we could be down from 1/2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Warhippy said: Alberta setting a new record for ICU patients. For perspective, f the Humboldt bus tragedy occurred right now in Alberta the options would be: Accepting nothing can be done and allowing critically injured kids to die in the street Treating critically injured kids on the hospital tarmac and outdoor triage rooms Removing already sick but stable individuals from ICU care early to move in critically injured accident victims Which of those seems fairest in an entirely preventable situation? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-health-care-system-sets-another-record-with-312-patients-in-intensive-care-1.6191057 Norther Alberta school board to Premier Kenney- ' Do your job' https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/ngps-trustees-are-penning-a-letter-to-premier-jason-kenney/ar-AAORYed?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531 The Board of Trustees of Northern Gateway Public School Division (NGPS) recently discussed their dislike of school health mandates and how the province has left impossible decisions in their hands. The idea was brought forward by Trustee Gerry Steinke (Valleyview). “I placed this item on the agenda immediately after the Premier’s and Minister’s announcement on September 3, which stated schools are not required to implement masking, but that school boards will continue to set COVID-19 management policies as deemed appropriate,” he explained. “It should be the concern of this board that the province, which has the constitutional responsibility for health, has placed a health-related role on our jurisdiction. For our Premier to hand off this responsibility of his to local governments is a complete denial of what the role of the provincial government must uphold. Simply put, this province has jurisdiction over health matters. School boards do not.” Trustee Steinke then moved to send a letter from the board to Premier Kenney and the Education Minister. His motion read that the Board of Trustees of the NGPS Division have “fundamentally disagrees with school boards being given decision-making opportunities to set local COVID 19 management practices that differ from provincial rules.” He then spoke to his motion to explain why he felt this was an important step to take. “I am fed up that the province has forced parents and other community members into a role of activism that need not be. This motion has nothing to do with whether people are for or against masks being worn in schools. I make the case on behalf of Northern Gateway that school boards must be respected for the role they were created to perform, and that role has nothing to do with making medical conclusions about the health of our students, if they wear masks or not.” Trustee Steinke further explained that he believes in school board autonomy. “I have often used the line that I believe that local representatives can make the best decisions in the interests of the community. Not in a thousand years would I ever say that local representatives are to make decisions on matters in which they have no jurisdiction. It is an insult to the integrity of our board that our provincial leaders have slyly indicated their reason to let school boards alter provincial mandates and, at the same time, show provincial support for school board autonomy. This is hardly the time to play political football. I ask for trustees to support this motion.” Trustee Jim Hailes (Fox Creek) expressed his agreement. “It’s an abdication of provincial responsibility, what they’ve done. They are looking at more of a political side as opposed to being responsible one way or another. To put this onto school boards and local authorities, we do not have the statistics, the information and everything else that the province has. They quit sharing the information and aren’t collecting a good part of it anymore, so this is totally not acceptable. As we’ve seen, it’s putting communities against each other. It’s not right.” The trustee from Darwell, Sangudo and Mayerthorpe, Sherry Jeffreys, also agreed. “I think it’s regretful that school boards have been placed in this position by the government. We’re making decisions in pandemic response that ultimately fall to our provincial leaders and health authority. (I’m) disappointed that there wasn’t clearer direction given to schools across the province, and now each board is left trying to make their own decision as to what makes sense to their community. We’ve been let down by our government, and that’s the unfortunate part. I am in full support of trustee Steinke’s motion.” The agreement continued with Trustee Judy Muir (Alberta Beach, Onoway, Rich Valley, Darwell). “All the comments that have been made, I agree with. I believe it is a total political move and has been given to school boards to deal with but not municipalities. It’s only school boards that were left out of the mix. I totally support the motion, so thank you for making it.” Just before the vote, Trustee Hailes suggested that the letter include the comments made by trustees during the discussion. Board Chair Linda Wigton (Whitecourt) also spoke in favour of the motion just before calling the vote, which then passed. 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MikeBossy Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Albertabama update and it's not good folks https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-reports-5-181-new-cases-of-covid-19-over-past-3-days-23-new-deaths-1.6191425 Alberta reports 5,181 new cases of COVID-19 over past 3 days, 23 new deaths Social Sharing Facebook Twitter Email Reddit LinkedIn Hospitalizations, ICU admissions continue to grow CBC News · Posted: Sep 27, 2021 4:30 PM MT | Last Updated: 2 hours ago Alberta reported 5,181 new cases of COVID-19 on Monday, combining three days of data from the weekend. (The Canadian Press/NIAID-RML via AP) 80 comments Alberta reported 5,181 new cases of COVID-19 on Monday, combining case numbers from three days over the weekend. The province also reported 23 more deaths, bringing the total number of COVID-19 deaths to 2,645 The 5,181 new cases were detected from Friday to Monday: Sept. 24: 1,882 new cases on 15,898 tests (11.99 per cent positive) Sept. 25: 1,541 new cases on 14,856 tests (10.37 per cent positive) Sept. 26: 1,758 new cases on 15,037 tests (11.76 per cent positive) As of the province's latest update, 1,063 people are in hospital with COVID-19, including 265 in intensive care. Of those in hospital, 804 were unvaccinated. UPDATED Alberta health-care system sets another record with 312 patients in intensive care Active cases of COVID-19 are on the rise again after three days of slight declines last week. As of Monday's update there are 21,307 active cases in the province. More than 70 per cent of active cases have not received any vaccine. Conversely, 70.6 per cent of Alberta's total population has received at least one dose of a vaccine. Here's how cases break down regionally: Edmonton zone: 5,430 Calgary zone: 5,295 Central zone: 4,235 North zone: 3,988 South zone: 2,317 Unknown: 42 About 83 per cent of Alberta's eligible population (over the age of 12) has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, while 73.8 per cent have received two. Of the province's total population, about 62.8 per cent have had both doses of vaccine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RUPERTKBD Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mj2345 said: Looks like Canadian NBA Player Andrew Wiggins is going to miss atleast 41 games this year all because he won’t take a shot that may give him side effects for a day or two..Warriors should just get rid of him, he clearly selfish and not thinking of the team Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who is not only one of the most intelligent athletes ever, but one of the most intelligent people, says that the NBA should mandate the vaccine for all players, coaches and staff....Those who refuse should have to find another line of work.... Edited September 28, 2021 by RUPERTKBD 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 minute ago, RUPERTKBD said: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who is not only one of the most intelligent athletes ever, but one of the most intelligent people, says that thew NBA should mandate the vaccine for all players, coaches and staff....Those who refuse should have to find another line of work.... plus, the greatest co-pilot of all time 1 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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