Coronavirus outbreak

[JM_]

2 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

You're wrong. Extortion is precisely what it is. There is no option when the option is living on the street, you goof. 

Businesses are within their constitutional rights to require you to be vaccinated. You just don't like it. 

[-Vintage Canuck-]

B.C. COVID-19 pandemic update:

 

As of Wednesday, Oct. 13, 2021, 88.9% (4,120,063) of eligible people 12 and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 82.7% (3,835,508) have received their second dose.

 

In addition, 89.4% (3,864,764) of all eligible adults in B.C. have received their first dose and 83.4% (3,609,210) received their second dose.

 

B.C. is reporting 605 new cases of COVID-19, including 18 epi-linked cases, for a total of 195,186 cases in the province.

 

There are 5,172 active cases of COVID-19 in the province and 187,564 people who tested positive have recovered. Of the active cases, 374 people are in hospital and 153 are in intensive care. The remaining people are recovering at home in self-isolation.

 

Note: Intensive care numbers are a subset of the total in hospital. They are not in addition to the number of people in hospital.

 

The new/active cases include:

• 245 new cases in Fraser Health
  • Total active cases: 2,214
• 82 new cases in Vancouver Coastal Health
  • Total active cases: 721
• 119 new cases in Interior Health
  • Total active cases: 850
• 67 new cases in Northern Health
  • Total active cases: 689
• 92 new cases in Island Health
  • Total active cases: 640
• No new cases of people who reside outside of Canada
  • Total active cases: 58

In the past 24 hours, four new deaths have been reported, for an overall total of 2,033.

 

The new deaths include:

• Northern Health: three
• Island Health: one

There has been one new health-care facility outbreak at Tofino General Hospital (Island Health). The outbreak at The Residence in Mission (Fraser Health) has been declared over, for a total of 19 active outbreaks, including:

long-term care:

• Willingdon Care Centre, Westminster House, Magnolia Gardens, Manoah Manor, Good Samaritan Delta View Care Centre, Cherington Place, West Shore Laylum (Fraser Health);
• Cottonwoods Care Centre, Joseph Creek Care Village, Overlander, Village by the Station, Haven Hill Retirement Centre (Interior Health); and
• Wrinch Memorial Hospital (Northern Health).

acute care:

• Mission Memorial Hospital (Fraser Health);
• University Hospital of Northern BC (Northern Health); and
• Tofino General Hospital (Island Health).
• assisted or independent living:
• Sunset Manor, Evergreen Manor (Fraser Health); and
• Cooper Place (Vancouver Coastal Health).

From Oct. 5-11, people not fully vaccinated accounted for 68.0% of cases and from Sept. 28-Oct. 11, they accounted for 73.4% of hospitalizations.

 

Past week cases (Oct. 5-11) – Total 4,206

• Not vaccinated: 2,571 (61.1%)
• Partially vaccinated: 291 (6.9%)
• Fully vaccinated: 1,344 (32.0%)

Past two weeks cases hospitalized (Sept. 28-Oct. 11) – Total 346

• Not vaccinated: 229 (66.2%)
• Partially vaccinated: 25 (7.2%)
• Fully vaccinated: 92 (26.6%)

Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 5-11)    

• Not vaccinated: 278.3
• Partially vaccinated: 80.5
• Fully vaccinated: 32.1

Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Sept. 28-Oct. 11)

• Not vaccinated: 36.7
• Partially vaccinated: 10.7
• Fully vaccinated: 2.1

Since December 2020, the Province has administered 7,991,932 doses of Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines.

 

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0061-001968

[JM_]

41 minutes ago, EOTM said:

Not even close. It's a choice with options you may not like but that doesn't mean it isn't a choice. You people whine an complain but you've just never had to make a tough choice before that you don't want to make. 

 

Merck is also giving you yet another choice/option. The answer is it's not ethical or moral for them to give that choice the way they are in any system other than capitalism. 

 

 

we have a $40 vaccine option that works to keep people out of ICU 99% of the time, and he's seeing conspiracies. Just take the shot. 

[4petesake]

Vaccine mandates are not even remotely new. What is new is the reaction (or over-reaction) to them. That seems to have snowballed since the now debunked claims of a connection between autism and vaccinations.

 

Here’s a screenshot of part of the story for those who can’t follow the link.

 

 

[JM_]

9 minutes ago, 4petesake said:

Vaccine mandates are not even remotely new. What is new is the reaction (or over-reaction) to them. That seems to have snowballed since the now debunked claims of a connection between autism and vaccinations.

 

Here’s a screenshot of part of the story for those who can’t follow the link.

 

 

 

I suspect this won't mean much to the anti-vax/passporters. 

 

I am getting pretty tired of having to pretend some sort of equivalence on this issue tho. We're now at ~82% of eligible people vaccinated. The remaining ones are not on some sort of equal footing, there isn't a polarization that splits us down the middle. 

 

We have people who are too entitled/selfish/religious and or frankly just too stupid to see how lucky we are to have such easy access to an affordable vaccine.

 

Hey here's a $40 solution. Tyranny!! 

 

 

 

[StanleyCupOneDay]

32 minutes ago, JM_ said:

 

I suspect this won't mean much to the anti-vax/passporters. 

 

I am getting pretty tired of having to pretend some sort of equivalence on this issue tho. We're now at ~82% of eligible people vaccinated. The remaining ones are not on some sort of equal footing, there isn't a polarization that splits us down the middle. 

 

We have people who are too entitled/selfish/religious and or frankly just too stupid to see how lucky we are to have such easy access to an affordable vaccine.

 

Hey here's a $40 solution. Tyranny!! 

 

 

 

At least we’re on track to hit 90% of all people above age 12 fully vaccinated considering we’re at 89% now who’ve had 1 dose (if they get one they’re almost assuredly going to get the 2nd). The anti-vaxxers are a small minority and are shrinking daily in numbers. They just like to be really loud on the internet to make their following seem bigger. It’s encouraging to see that Canada is also creeping up the vaccine charts as we used to be 20th in the world with more people getting the shot/s.

 

As of today we’re 12th in the world in 1st doses behind U.A.E., Portugal, Cuba, Malta, Chile, Qatar, Singapore, China, Cambodia, Spain and Uruguay.

 

We’re 14th in fully vaccinated behind U.A.E., Portugal, Malta, Singapore, Spain, Qatar, Iceland, Denmark, Ireland, Uruguay, Chile, China and Belgium.

[JM_]

1 hour ago, StanleyCupOneDay said:

At least we’re on track to hit 90% of all people above age 12 fully vaccinated considering we’re at 89% now who’ve had 1 dose (if they get one they’re almost assuredly going to get the 2nd). The anti-vaxxers are a small minority and are shrinking daily in numbers. They just like to be really loud on the internet to make their following seem bigger. It’s encouraging to see that Canada is also creeping up the vaccine charts as we used to be 20th in the world with more people getting the shot/s.

 

As of today we’re 12th in the world in 1st doses behind U.A.E., Portugal, Cuba, Malta, Chile, Qatar, Singapore, China, Cambodia, Spain and Uruguay.

 

We’re 14th in fully vaccinated behind U.A.E., Portugal, Malta, Singapore, Spain, Qatar, Iceland, Denmark, Ireland, Uruguay, Chile, China and Belgium.

90% would be great, thats probably where we will top out unless more passport restrictions are brought in. Have to hope thats good enough to not get new worse variants.

[StanleyCupOneDay]

36 minutes ago, JM_ said:

90% would be great, thats probably where we will top out unless more passport restrictions are brought in. Have to hope thats good enough to not get new worse variants.

We’ll get to around 92-93% in the end I’d bet. About 5% of Canadians are hardcore will never ever get the shot regardless of logic, fact, reason or consequences and there’s probably about 2-3% who can’t get it due to being immunocompromised. The other unvaccinated people still have questions or are hesitant and can be convinced to get protected. Given that every day we see the first dose and second dose numbers increase I think we still haven’t hit the ceiling there yet.

 

91% of kids in Canada are vaccinated against measles and mumps so getting us close to or even over that number despite the deluge of misinformation and disinformation on social media/internet that never occurred for those diseases is pretty damn encouraging. It reflects well on our country, lifestyle and values regardless of our political differences.
 

Don’t get me wrong there’s still going to be unnecessary deaths, hospitalizations and outbreaks, but I shudder to think about what situation we’d be in if say a quarter of our country said no to the vaccine.

[EOTM]

4 hours ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

You're wrong. Extortion is precisely what it is. There is no option when the option is living on the street, you goof. 

Look you angry little elf you can call it what you want but there is another option even if your tamtruming arse doesn't like it. 

[EOTM]

4 hours ago, JM_ said:

we have a $40 vaccine option that works to keep people out of ICU 99% of the time, and he's seeing conspiracies. Just take the shot. 

I think he is an angry little man who can't even handle people disagreeing with him so he has to double down on these theories and go after whatever he can. This is what children do who don't like their choices and everything they've said just keeps making them look more petulant.

[Canuckster86]

4 hours ago, 4petesake said:

Vaccine mandates are not even remotely new. What is new is the reaction (or over-reaction) to them. That seems to have snowballed since the now debunked claims of a connection between autism and vaccinations.

 

Here’s a screenshot of part of the story for those who can’t follow the link.

 

 

Where is Torts now... People just being stupid, for them I hope you get Covid, serves all them right for acting like children...marching into schools, spitting on hospital staff...Like get bent, if that happened to my wife I would go deal with it myself

[drummer4now]

30 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said:

Where is Torts now... People just being stupid, for them I hope you get Covid, serves all them right for acting like children...marching into schools, spitting on hospital staff...Like get bent, if that happened to my wife I would go deal with it myself

I just had Covid it was like the flu.. double vaxxed and all.

 

I developed mild respiratory problems and a bleeding nose from one nostril lol with fluid coming from the other.. 

 

Did the vaccine save me from going to the hospital maybe.. but it is not the end all be all. 
 

Firing people from their jobs and livelihood because they don’t want to be vaxxed is sick and wrong. 

 

5 hours ago, JM_ said:

 

I suspect this won't mean much to the anti-vax/passporters. 

 

I am getting pretty tired of having to pretend some sort of equivalence on this issue tho. We're now at ~82% of eligible people vaccinated. The remaining ones are not on some sort of equal footing, there isn't a polarization that splits us down the middle. 

 

We have people who are too entitled/selfish/religious and or frankly just too stupid to see how lucky we are to have such easy access to an affordable vaccine.

 

Hey here's a $40 solution. Tyranny!! 

 

 

 

Please leave religion out of this.. 

 

Vast majority of people in this world are not heathens thank god! 

[4petesake]

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Edited October 14, 2021 by 4petesake
Wrong thread

[JM_]

12 hours ago, EOTM said:

I think he is an angry little man who can't even handle people disagreeing with him so he has to double down on these theories and go after whatever he can. This is what children do who don't like their choices and everything they've said just keeps making them look more petulant.

I think he's a kid who has someone influential in his life thats an anti-vaxxer. I actually feel sorry for him.

[JM_]

11 hours ago, drummer4now said:

I just had Covid it was like the flu.. double vaxxed and all.

 

I developed mild respiratory problems and a bleeding nose from one nostril lol with fluid coming from the other.. 

 

Did the vaccine save me from going to the hospital maybe.. but it is not the end all be all. 
 

Firing people from their jobs and livelihood because they don’t want to be vaxxed is sick and wrong. 

 

Please leave religion out of this.. 

 

Vast majority of people in this world are not heathens thank god! 

why would I leave a major factor out of it? its just a fact, some people are using religion to justify not getting the shot.

[gurn]

12 hours ago, drummer4now said:

Firing people from their jobs and livelihood because they don’t want to be vaxxed is sick and wrong.

Allowing  voluntary unvaxxed people to wander around, risking the lives of those who literally cannot be vaxxed, is the true sick and wrong thing.

[Gawdzukes]

12 hours ago, drummer4now said:

I just had Covid it was like the flu.. double vaxxed and all.

 

I developed mild respiratory problems and a bleeding nose from one nostril lol with fluid coming from the other.. 

 

Did the vaccine save me from going to the hospital maybe.. but it is not the end all be all. 
 

Firing people from their jobs and livelihood because they don’t want to be vaxxed is sick and wrong. 

 

Please leave religion out of this.. 

 

Vast majority of people in this world are not heathens thank god! 

How is ensuring people are healthy, and safe, sick and wrong? Wow you got problems dude!

 

Are you one of those little weenies afraid of the government?

 

If people want to be self entitled pricks they don't deserve a job. Go live off the land where you aren't killing the rest of our chances, where you're not affecting others, if you don't want to keep everyone safe. So twisted.

 

And yeah, if the vaccine did save you from death it is the definition of 'end all be all'.

Edited October 14, 2021 by Gawdzukes

[JM_]

18 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said:

 

 

And yeah, if the vaccine did save you from death it is the definition of 'end all be all.

like, literally. 

[JM_]

25 minutes ago, gurn said:

Allowing  voluntary unvaxxed people to wander around, risking the lives of those who literally cannot be vaxxed, is the true sick and wrong thing.

it just always keeps coming down to this. The anti-vaxxers don't want to live the consequences of their choices. They're cowards. 

[DrJockitch]

12 hours ago, drummer4now said:

I just had Covid it was like the flu.. double vaxxed and all.

 

I developed mild respiratory problems and a bleeding nose from one nostril lol with fluid coming from the other.. 

 

Did the vaccine save me from going to the hospital maybe.. but it is not the end all be all. 
 

Firing people from their jobs and livelihood because they don’t want to be vaxxed is sick and wrong. 

 

Please leave religion out of this.. 

 

Vast majority of people in this world are not heathens thank god! 

"Please leave religion out of this."

Now insult non-religious people by calling them heathens and then put your religious beliefs into at the end.

Way to really make that point.