Coronavirus outbreak

[Gurn]

4 minutes ago, Bure_of_94 said:

something as stupid as a vaccine

[alt kilgore]

Okay....I've changed my mind.  Vaccines are f'n dangerous!

 

 

 

 

 

[Alflives]

37 minutes ago, Bure_of_94 said:

It probably literally makes no difference to him. He’s won a Super Bowl, he’s made 263 million in his career. And he’s guaranteed another 98 million on his current contract, even if he NEVER plays another game. 
 

Do you honestly think that a small market team is going to sit out a guy over something as stupid as a vaccine and still pay him 98 million? If they felt that strong about it, they’d trade him and there would be 20-25 teams lining up to try and acquire him. 
 

 The difference between Canada and America is that in America 50% of the people still believe in freedom of choice. In Canada you’d better believe what the news and government tells you to. 

Nah.  The difference is not an American v Canadian one.  The difference is between the ignorant flat earth believing, bleach huffing, horse wormer eating, fish tank cleaner drinking antivaxxers and normal people.  

[King Heffy]

2 hours ago, Bure_of_94 said:

It probably literally makes no difference to him. He’s won a Super Bowl, he’s made 263 million in his career. And he’s guaranteed another 98 million on his current contract, even if he NEVER plays another game. 
 

Do you honestly think that a small market team is going to sit out a guy over something as stupid as a vaccine and still pay him 98 million? If they felt that strong about it, they’d trade him and there would be 20-25 teams lining up to try and acquire him. 
 

 The difference between Canada and America is that in America 50% of the people still believe in freedom of choice. In Canada you’d better believe what the news and government tells you to. 

What about the freedom of choice to avoid having to be around people who have voluntarily turned themselves into walking biohazards due to their own stupidity like Rodgers?  Trade deadline is over and Love will be taking over next year.  I'd absolutely tell this idiot he won't play another snap and see how the kid does. 

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

On 11/6/2021 at 8:52 AM, gurn said:

More on Aaron Rodgers:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/medical/fact-checking-aaron-rodgers-bizarre-covid-beliefs-and-woke-mob-claim-made-on-pat-mcafee-show/ar-AAQmTU6?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Aaron Rodgers has come under fire recently after testing positive for COVID-19 despite previous claims that he was "immunized," only to find out that did not mean vaccinated. On Friday, he started firing back.

 

Speaking on "The Pat McAfee Show," Rodgers said that he is "in the crosshairs of the woke mob" and that "before my final nail gets put in my cancel culture casket," he wanted to clear up some of the "blatant lies out there." He said that he did not lie during his Aug. 27 press conference, when he said he was "immunized," but he said there was a "witch hunt" that was going on to shame people who had not been vaccinated.

Rodgers said that he did not get two of the vaccines because he found he was allergic to an ingredient in the mRNA vaccines, and said that when the Johnson & Johnson vaccine was pulled back in mid-April, he decided he would not get that vaccine either.

MORE: Aaron Rodgers' 'immunized' comments bite Packers QB after COVID-19 positive diagnosis

"I'm not some sort of anti-vax flat-earther. I'm somebody who's a critical thinker. I march to the beat of my own drum. I believe strongly in bodily autonomy. Not to have to acquiesce to some woke culture or some crazed group of individuals," Rodgers said on the show.

Aaron Rodgers has come under fire recently after testing positive for COVID-19 despite previous claims that he was "immunized," only to find out that did not mean vaccinated. On Friday, he started firing back.

 

Speaking on "The Pat McAfee Show," Rodgers said that he is "in the crosshairs of the woke mob" and that "before my final nail gets put in my cancel culture casket," he wanted to clear up some of the "blatant lies out there." He said that he did not lie during his Aug. 27 press conference, when he said he was "immunized," but he said there was a "witch hunt" that was going on to shame people who had not been vaccinated.

Rodgers said that he did not get two of the vaccines because he found he was allergic to an ingredient in the mRNA vaccines, and said that when the Johnson & Johnson vaccine was pulled back in mid-April, he decided he would not get that vaccine either.

MORE: Aaron Rodgers' 'immunized' comments bite Packers QB after COVID-19 positive diagnosis

"I'm not some sort of anti-vax flat-earther. I'm somebody who's a critical thinker. I march to the beat of my own drum. I believe strongly in bodily autonomy. Not to have to acquiesce to some woke culture or some crazed group of individuals," Rodgers said on the show.

 

He referenced blood clotting in the Johnson & Johnson vaccine when it was pulled. According to the CDC, the stoppage was a temporary pause and the FDA green-lit the vaccine to be used again. The blood clots were reportedly in adult women younger than 50, and that it occurs only at a rate of about seven per 1 million vaccinated women, and it is even more rare among older women and all men.

In addition to being allergic to an ingredient in the vaccine and his concern over the J&J vaccine, Rodgers said that he would like to become a father, and that to his knowledge, "there have been no long-term studies around sterility or fertility issues around the vaccines."

Dr. Jennifer Kawwass, a reproductive endocrinologist and associate professor at the Emory University School of Medicine in Atlanta, told NBC News that there is no evidence that the vaccine can impact fertility.

"There is evidence to suggest that infection with SARS-CoV-2 has the potential to impact both male fertility, female fertility, and certainly the health of a pregnancy of someone infected," Kawwass told NBC News.

Rather than getting the vaccine, Rodgers said that he went through his own immunization protocols that he developed with his medical team. He said the immunization had been around for centuries and doctors had been using it for decades and that it was for adults and children who can't get traditional vaccines. When McAfee asked him to explain what the immunization methods were, Rodgers said that he is going to keep that "between my doctors and myself, but it was a way to stimulate my immune system to create a defense against COVID."

MORE: What's next after Rodgers ruled out vs. Chiefs

He said his medical team was composed of holistic doctors, homeopaths, "Harvard MDs and brilliant people from all over the country."

He previously said that he consulted with a "now-good friend of mine, Joe Rogan," a controversial podcast host, and said that he is following the recommendations from Rogan on how to have "the best immunity possible." He said he is taking monocolonal antibodies, ivermectin, zinc, vitamin C and D, and hydroxychloroquine. 

The FDA has said ivermectin should not be used to prevent or treat COVID-19 in humans or animals, and said it is "only for human use to treat infections caused by some parasitic worms and head lice and skin conditions like rosacea." The FDA also warned against the use of hydroxycholoroquine due to risk of heart rhythm issues.

Now that he has tested positive, Rodgers said that he will build up a natural immunity to it, and that studies have found that "if you've gotten COVID and recovered from it, that that's the best boosted immunity you can have."

The CDC found in a recent study that having the vaccine is better protection from possible reinfection compared to natural immunity from having previously contracted the virus.

Rodgers said the NFL classified him as an unvaccinated individual despite his immunization efforts, and that he appealed the decision. Rodgers said he brought 500 pages of research to the appeal process arguing why he should not be grouped as unvaccinated.

"I think they thought I was a quack," Rodgers said.

MORE: Did NFL know unvaccinated Aaron Rodgers was breaking COVID-19 protocols?

Rodgers complained that the policies by the NFL about handling vaccinated vs. unvaccinated players is "shame-based" and has no scientific backing. He said he is required to be tested daily and that he must wear a mask, even when standing up at the podium talking to the press when he is standing farther away from masked media members.

Rodgers said that he felt there was no science behind the policy that made him wear a mask in a facility where everyone had either been fully vaccinated or previously tested negative.

"It was my opinion that that wasn't rooted in science," Rodgers said. "Every other protocol, I've followed to a T."

McAfee asked Rodgers if he felt an obligation to follow their rules, since he said others would say it is a privilege to get to play in the NFL. Rodgers responded that while he sees both sides of the argument and that the league can put in place its own policies, "I didn't agree to any of them."

"I didn't sign a piece of paper that gave away my rights to live a normal season of life and I felt like I protected myself in a way that not only protected myself and my teammates," Rodgers said. "I've tested over 300 times before finally testing positive. Like I said, it was probably from a vaccinated individual. I don't think that many of the policies are rooted in science."

He compared himself to Martin Luther King Jr., paraphrasing King's original quote, which was "One has not only a legal, but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsbility to disobey unjust laws."

"The great MLK said you have a moral obligation to object to unjust rules, and rules that make no sense. In my opinion, it makes no sense to me," Rodgers said.

Before the season began, the NFL and NFLPA both agreed on the COVID-19 protocols for the regular season.

Rodgers, who once hosted "Jeopardy!", said that there are two questions he has for the "woke mob": Why are people still getting the coronavirus, spreading it and dying from it if they are vaccinated, and if the vaccine is safe, why the manufacturers of the vaccine have "full immunity"?

The CDC reports that the vaccines protect against severe illness and that breakthrough cases can happen. It says that studies have found unvaccinated people are 6.1 times more likely to be infected and 11.3 times more likely to experience hospitalization or death compared to fully vaccinated individuals.

For a guy who claims he’s “not some sort of anti-vax flat-earther,” Rodgers sure displays a high level of fluency in their “language.”  

[johngould21]

6 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

For a guy who claims he’s “not some sort of anti-vax flat-earther,” Rodgers sure displays a high level of fluency in their “language.”  

I, for one hope this guys legacy crashes and burns to the ground. A BIG FU Aaron Rodgers!

[Gawdzukes]

3 hours ago, johngould21 said:

I, for one hope this guys legacy crashes and burns to the ground. A BIG FU Aaron Rodgers!

Yup, I can't stand people like this. I used to really respect him but I hope he gets traded and misses the playoffs until he retires and fades into obscurity. 

[Mj2345]

The back up QB is not having a good game, Packers are down 13-0 with 7:42 to go

[Alflives]

3 minutes ago, Mj2345 said:

The back up QB is not having a good game, Packers are down 13-0 with 7:42 to go

And Rogers is still a complete idiot, who takes horse dewormer because (you know) he’s edumacated.  Justice would be families of people who died from Covid because they listened to this idiot file a class action suit and take his last friggin’ penny.  

[nuckin_futz]

German COVID-19 worries continue as virus incidence rate soars to a record

Mon 8 Nov 2021 06:24:54 GMT

 

The 7-day incidence rate shoots up to 201.1, surpassing the previous high of 197.6 seen in 22 December 2020

• Latest COVID-19 trend in Germany starts to bring about fresh worries
• German state leaders call for urgent action to address surging COVID-19 cases

The virus trend in Germany isn't getting any better, with there being over 300,000 active cases now as compared to the ~220,000 last week.

 

The surge in the 7-day incidence rate (new infections per 100,000 persons over the last seven days) is arguably the key statistic as it reaffirms a worsening trend and one that local authorities are growing increasingly worried about.

 

As noted in the above posts, hospitals are still managing to cope for now but if things continue down this path going into winter, some light restrictions may be needed.

 

This is one to keep an eye out for especially more so since it concerns Europe's biggest economy - one that is also facing surging inflation pressures.

[-DLC-]

19 hours ago, Bure_of_94 said:

 The difference between Canada and America is that in America 50% of the people still believe in freedom of choice. In Canada you’d better believe what the news and government tells you to. 

You seem to like numbers, so here are some.

 

US population is about 9x higher than Canada's.  Their COVID deaths are 26x higher.   Seems that some of those choices may be proving to be bad ones.

 

Add Mike Fisher to the dumbass club too.  And no one's depriving anyone of their freedom of choice.  Everyone can choose to have the vaccine or not.  But others ALSO get to make choices based on those decisions.  Seems fair to me.

 

Anyhow, I kind of like how SNL and this article lay it all out there.  

 

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/ny-aaron-rodgers-anti-vaxxer-20211105-touux5m2ibdkdl5yppmgmwmav4-story.html

[-DLC-]

On 11/5/2021 at 10:23 AM, RUPERTKBD said:

I actually heard about a guy who had success with taking the horsey pills....

 

....they said his condition was stable....

Hay!  The mane point here is being lost in all of this.  I suggest we do a gallop poll.

 

(Don't mean to stirrup any trouble, all in good fun)

[johngould21]

1 hour ago, -DLC- said:

You seem to like numbers, so here are some.

 

US population is about 9x higher than Canada's.  Their COVID deaths are 26x higher.   Seems that some of those choices may be proving to be bad ones.

 

Add Mike Fisher to the dumbass club too.  And no one's depriving anyone of their freedom of choice.  Everyone can choose to have the vaccine or not.  But others ALSO get to make choices based on those decisions.  Seems fair to me.

 

Anyhow, I kind of like how SNL and this article lay it all out there.  

 

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/ny-aaron-rodgers-anti-vaxxer-20211105-touux5m2ibdkdl5yppmgmwmav4-story.html

I concour.

[Ghostsof1915]

55 minutes ago, -DLC- said:

Hay!  The mane point here is being lost in all of this.  I suggest we do a gallop poll.

 

(Don't mean to stirrup any trouble, all in good fun)

Stop horsing around Deb. 

[CBH1926]

Rodgers has always been a cocky jagoff, &^@# anyone who gets medical advice from a comedian.

[NewbieCanuckFan]

4 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Stop horsing around Deb. 

I like being hit with a riding crop.

[JM_]

21 hours ago, Bure_of_94 said:

 The difference between Canada and America is that in America 50% of the people still believe in freedom of choice. In Canada you’d better believe what the news and government tells you to. 

yup freedom to have worse health care, even in the face of undeniable poorer outcomes than most of the G20.

 

But sure, freedoms.

 

Edited November 8, 2021 by JM_

[JM_]

39 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

Rodgers has always been a cocky jagoff, &^@# anyone who gets medical advice from a comedian.

the outcome was predictably funny tho.

[Wolfgang Durst]

2 hours ago, nuckin_futz said:

German COVID-19 worries continue as virus incidence rate soars to a record

Mon 8 Nov 2021 06:24:54 GMT

 

The 7-day incidence rate shoots up to 201.1, surpassing the previous high of 197.6 seen in 22 December 2020

• Latest COVID-19 trend in Germany starts to bring about fresh worries
• German state leaders call for urgent action to address surging COVID-19 cases

The virus trend in Germany isn't getting any better, with there being over 300,000 active cases now as compared to the ~220,000 last week.

 

The surge in the 7-day incidence rate (new infections per 100,000 persons over the last seven days) is arguably the key statistic as it reaffirms a worsening trend and one that local authorities are growing increasingly worried about.

 

As noted in the above posts, hospitals are still managing to cope for now but if things continue down this path going into winter, some light restrictions may be needed.

 

This is one to keep an eye out for especially more so since it concerns Europe's biggest economy - one that is also facing surging inflation pressures.

amazing that someone in Victoria, BC posts COVID 19 cases, incidence rates and death on CDC. Germany has a high vaccinate rate which is above 80%. Problem currently is that even fully vaccinated people get COVID - that's the most concerning part of this story.

[4petesake]

Singapore announces that the government will no longer foot the bill for treatment of people who choose to be unvaccinated and contract Covid after Dec 8.