JM_ Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, 4petesake said: Singapore announces that the government will no longer foot the bill for treatment of people who choose to be unvaccinated and contract Covid after Dec 8. can you imagine the poop storm if BC did that? but it is freedom in action tho @Bure_of_94. Your choice, your chequebook. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, 4petesake said: Singapore announces that the government will no longer foot the bill for treatment of people who choose to be unvaccinated and contract Covid after Dec 8. I'd love that to happen here. If the antivaxxers don't like it they can move to "Maskchinia". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 45 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said: amazing that someone in Victoria, BC posts COVID 19 cases, incidence rates and death on CDC. Germany has a high vaccinate rate which is above 80%. Problem currently is that even fully vaccinated people get COVID - that's the most concerning part of this story. yet the numbers of cases , hospitalizations and deaths/100k people aren't even moderately close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, JM_ said: can you imagine the poop storm if BC did that? but it is freedom in action tho @Bure_of_94. Your choice, your chequebook. I'd love to see it. Stop wasting my tax dollars on keeping these losers alive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 36 minutes ago, stawns said: yet the numbers of cases , hospitalizations and deaths/100k people aren't even moderately close. Population of Germany 83,100,000 people give or take. 1 hour ago, Wolfgang Durst said: Germany has a high vaccinate rate which is above 80% 80% vaxxed means 16.6 million unvaxxed people. That will work out to a lot of dead people. Germany currently has a mortality rate of 2%, which will work out to about 166,000 more deaths, if just half of those unvaxxed catch covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, gurn said: Population of Germany 83,100,000 people give or take. 80% vaxxed means 16.6 million unvaxxed people. That will work out to a lot of dead people. Germany currently has a mortality rate of 2%, which will work out to about 166,000 more deaths, if just half of those unvaxxed catch covid. politicians and health care organizations are well aware of this but all efforts to increase the vaccination rate over the last couple of months failed. Politicians tried to put some pressure on unvaxxed by charging them 70 Euro up to 170 Euros (PCR test) for a Covid Test. That's quite some money for some people. The problem right now is that the capacities at intensive care at hospitals are dramatically shrinking. Therefore I expect that we are going to face another lockdown. Capacity at intensive care has become the top criteria for deciding on another lockdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossberg Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, JM_ said: can you imagine the poop storm if BC did that? but it is freedom in action tho @Bure_of_94. Your choice, your chequebook. That is ridiculous. If we're gonna go that way then no things that have unnessesary risks should be covered. You go biking and get hurt - not covered. You go skiing and get hurt- not covered. Eat to much junk food- not covered etc. And when did freedom of choice become such a bad thing for you Lefty's? You like the government getting more power over your lives? Before some on here start claiming I'm an anti vaxxer I have both my shots. I just don't think the government should have the power to force anyone or have this BS vaxx passport. I will never download that app and any business that asks me for it will lose a customer for life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossberg Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Alflives said: I'd love that to happen here. If the antivaxxers don't like it they can move to "Maskchinia". What is "maskchina"? Maybe if you don't like choice you should move to new Zealand or Australia or some other dump of a country that has way too much control over its population 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossberg Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 46 minutes ago, King Heffy said: I'd love to see it. Stop wasting my tax dollars on keeping these losers alive. Man are you an over dramatic diva. Every one is a sub human piece of garbage loser terrorist to you eh. Would you like to get rid of universal health care then. That works for me I have great benefits? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mossberg said: That is ridiculous. If we're gonna go that way then no things that have unnessesary risks should be covered. You go biking and get hurt - not covered. You go skiing and get hurt- not covered. Eat to much junk food- not covered etc. And when did freedom of choice become such a bad thing for you Lefty's? You like the government getting more power over your lives? Before some on here start claiming I'm an anti vaxxer I have both my shots. I just don't think the government should have the power to force anyone or have this BS vaxx passport. I will never download that app and any business that asks me for it will lose a customer for life "you lefty's" so I'll point out the flaw in your statement - those things you referenced only hurt the person doing them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mossberg said: I just don't think the government should have the power to force anyone or have this BS vaxx passport. I will never download that app and any business that asks me for it will lose a customer for life So even though your vaccination history is government record already, and even though you give up more information e.g., to take a flight or download an app, this is your hill to die on? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mossberg said: That is ridiculous. If we're gonna go that way then no things that have unnessesary risks should be covered. You go biking and get hurt - not covered. You go skiing and get hurt- not covered. Eat to much junk food- not covered etc. And when did freedom of choice become such a bad thing for you Lefty's? You like the government getting more power over your lives? Before some on here start claiming I'm an anti vaxxer I have both my shots. I just don't think the government should have the power to force anyone or have this BS vaxx passport. I will never download that app and any business that asks me for it will lose a customer for life Do you not understand the difference between those risks and a deadly, highly infectious virus? Considering you are in the vast, vast minority, I doubt those businesses will even notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mossberg said: That is ridiculous. If we're gonna go that way then no things that have unnessesary risks should be covered. You go biking and get hurt - not covered. You go skiing and get hurt- not covered. Eat to much junk food- not covered etc. And when did freedom of choice become such a bad thing for you Lefty's? You like the government getting more power over your lives? Before some on here start claiming I'm an anti vaxxer I have both my shots. I just don't think the government should have the power to force anyone or have this BS vaxx passport. I will never download that app and any business that asks me for it will lose a customer for life You lefties (fixed the spelling for you)? 90+% of the country is pulling in the same direction.......it's not just people on the left. It's, literally, almost everyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, stawns said: You lefties (fixed the spelling for you)? 90+% of the country is pulling in the same direction.......it's not just people on the left. It's, literally, almost everyone. thanks I wasn't sure if he was mad at my perceived politics or that he thinks I'm left handed. This stuff is getting tiresome tho, they're recycling the same logic farts over and over. Its like whack-a-mole. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mossberg said: What is "maskchina"? Maybe if you don't like choice you should move to new Zealand or Australia or some other dump of a country that has way too much control over its population I have no problem with choice. You seem to have a problem with the public collectively making a choice you don't like, as the mandates have strong support here. 10 minutes ago, Mossberg said: Man are you an over dramatic diva. Every one is a sub human piece of garbage loser terrorist to you eh. Would you like to get rid of universal health care then. That works for me I have great benefits? I didn't realize that everyone was far right nutjobs. I like universal health care, but part of having it is allowing medical professionals to choose the best method of treatment. In this case, they've chosen vaccines as the cheapest and most effective method. No issue with people being on the hook for the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, King Heffy said: I'd love to see it. Stop wasting my tax dollars on keeping these losers alive. I'd be just fine with paying to do more dangerous personal activities, either via insurance or taxation. My wife and I do go into the back country and if that cost me a bit more in insurance e.g., to do so others didn't cover my medical fees I'm fine with that, particularly if it meant anti-vaxxers had to foot their own bills. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhuis Hip Check Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 42 minutes ago, JM_ said: I'd be just fine with paying to do more dangerous personal activities, either via insurance or taxation. My wife and I do go into the back country and if that cost me a bit more in insurance e.g., to do so others didn't cover my medical fees I'm fine with that, particularly if it meant anti-vaxxers had to foot their own bills. Any sports league ive played in as an adult had to have an insurance policy on the players, i cant imagine it would be very expensive to have an extreme sports type insurance policy available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, Hamhuis Hip Check said: Any sports league ive played in as an adult had to have an insurance policy on the players, i cant imagine it would be very expensive to have an extreme sports type insurance policy available. its not actually. I have it now as part of my insurance, its CDN $3.00 per month for $400,000 in major accident coverage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Wolfgang Durst said: amazing that someone in Victoria, BC posts COVID 19 cases, incidence rates and death on CDC. Germany has a high vaccinate rate which is above 80%. Problem currently is that even fully vaccinated people get COVID - that's the most concerning part of this story. It crosses my radar because Germany is the largest economy in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hamhuis Hip Check Posted November 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, nuckin_futz said: It crosses my radar because Germany is the largest economy in Europe. Isnt it amazing that some people have the capacity to give a shot about people in the rrst of the world? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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