RUPERTKBD Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 48 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Hello, she's had us Rolling in the Deep for a while...Rumour Has It that she Set Fire to the Rain and it made the Skyfall. sorry. ....as well you should be.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bishopshodan Posted January 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: ....as well you should be.... I figured... Someone Like You ...would say that. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 13 hours ago, -DLC- said: Yet we're at 50% capacity at hockey games? Seems that'd be a good way to test things out and get this thing over with if it's "everyone's going to be exposed". To pick and choose seems a little counter productive. I've been on board with Dix and Henry all along...but I stopped believing them a few weeks ago and feel that, at this point, they're just trying to please certain groups of people (possibly at the expense of others). yeah I'm wondering what the heck as well. I guess we'll find out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Alflives said: And yet again we read another story of exactly why allowing antivaxxers to use previous infection as a method of getting a passport to access restricted places is a very bad idea. This is exactly what the whole “but natural immunity” argument results in. One of the concerning things about Omicron is that the immunity it generates “naturally” is that it doesn’t appear to give much immunity to Delta and earlier forms of COVID. Part of entering an endemic phase is that it becomes dominant and wipes the older more deadly versions of the virus away. It still may do that though because of the high immunization rates but it is concerning that we still may see a return in Delta in the people with only “natural immunity” to Omicron. If Omicron is the second or third time someone has caught COVID or they are immunized this isn’t much of a concern though. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 11 hours ago, Ilunga said: @JM_ Here is some more information on thought processes. https://www.verywellmind.com/negative-bias-4589618 It does take a conscious effort on my part to look for the good, in a situation or an individual. You will find what you look for, both positives and negatives, it just about percentages. good article, thanks. Extreme situations like the pandemic seem to bring out a lot of both in folks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Haven't watched it yet. Free to stream today and maybe tomorrow. Shared on the Coronavirus subreddit. THE FIRST WAVE With exclusive access inside one of New York’s hardest hit hospital systems during the terrifying first four months of the pandemic, Oscar®-nominated and Emmy® Award-winning director Matthew Heineman’s THE FIRST WAVE spotlights the everyday heroes at the epicenter of COVID-19 as they come together to fight one of the greatest threats the world has ever encountered. NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC DOCUMENTARY FILMS https://www.nationalgeographic.com/pages/topic/the-first-wave-documentary?cmpid=org=ngp::mc=vanity::src=ngp::cmp=FirstWave_DMED::add=vanityurl&utm_source=reddit.com#a5db4430-f9c4-4729-bfa3-2ea08519b5be 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Haven't watched it yet. Free to stream today and maybe tomorrow. Shared on the Coronavirus subreddit. THE FIRST WAVE With exclusive access inside one of New York’s hardest hit hospital systems during the terrifying first four months of the pandemic, Oscar®-nominated and Emmy® Award-winning director Matthew Heineman’s THE FIRST WAVE spotlights the everyday heroes at the epicenter of COVID-19 as they come together to fight one of the greatest threats the world has ever encountered. NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC DOCUMENTARY FILMS https://www.nationalgeographic.com/pages/topic/the-first-wave-documentary?cmpid=org=ngp::mc=vanity::src=ngp::cmp=FirstWave_DMED::add=vanityurl&utm_source=reddit.com#a5db4430-f9c4-4729-bfa3-2ea08519b5be Thanks. I have watched 10 minutes of this so far and it is extremely powerful. Brought to tears in the first 5. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 57 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: I figured... Someone Like You ...would say that. I don't know enough Adele songs to retort.... ....but if we ever get into a discussion about Madonna, look out.... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 1/19/2022 at 1:11 PM, stawns said: And delta is still surging, it hasn't gone anywhere and the UK doesn't have a great vax rate. I wouldnt say surging more like dwindling, After two vaccines, a booster, and 50% of people catching covid at some point, the general population should have a strong enough immune response to fight covid. Once Omicron is on the down swing restrictions need to be lifted and people need to go back to living. Most countries have already began this including Israel which has been one of the more strict countries through this pandemic. At least until the next major variant pops up. At some point the stress and unhealthly behaviors of this lockdown will start trading years off the young and health for those of the sick and elderly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) https://www.fraserhealth.ca/health-topics-a-to-z/coronavirus/testing#.YeroYyd6o0F From that link What to do if you have mild symptoms and testing is not recommended Stay home until you feel well enough to return to your regular activities. Avoid non-essential high-risk settings such as long-term care facilities and individuals at higher risk for severe illness for 10 days after the start of your symptoms. Mild symptoms are symptoms that can be managed at home. Learn about how to manage your symptoms. BC has now followed rhe UK and removed minimum isolation rules for adults and kids with mild symptoms and FULLY VAXXED Healthy adults and kids with mild symptoms AND FULLY VAXXED re not suggested to be tested and can return to full activities when they feel well enough to do so. Only caveat is to avoid high risk situations such as long term care So this means Miller and demko should be able to play even of contagious so long as they are up to it as they are fully vaxxed Employers can also force covid positive staff to work to perform light duties if the employee is well enough to do anything Kinda makes BC's new 5 paid sick days a joke and a waste of time now This is the let er rip method and I strongly suggest anyone not vaccinated di so ASAP as contracting covid is now 100% certainty for every person ( unless your immune ) Also vaccine passports and mandates make zero sense and have no purpose With the decision to let er rip and allow covid positive people attend school and most work sites there is absolutely no point in any mandates or workplace safety guidelines around covid ( other than in health care ) I don't agree with letting er rip but if this is there decision then might as well just end all safety measures? Outside of health ) and get on with it Really if covid positive people are allowed into a gym or rogers for example .... what difference does it make if that person who is positive is vaxxed or not ? Outside of health work sites vax passports are now pretty meaningless I suppose this will force herd immunity very quickly Edited January 21, 2022 by iwtl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotiman187 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 https://globalnews.ca/news/8529236/covid-omicron-coronavirus-peak/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, 4petesake said: Thanks. I have watched 10 minutes of this so far and it is extremely powerful. Brought to tears in the first 5. Ya. Stories like what are presented in the doc have been happening in our hospitals for almost 2 years. I found the Cuomo soundbites a "nice" reminder of how front and centre he was knowing what he was doing in the background. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Bure_Pavel said: I wouldnt say surging more like dwindling, After two vaccines, a booster, and 50% of people catching covid at some point, the general population should have a strong enough immune response to fight covid. Once Omicron is on the down swing restrictions need to be lifted and people need to go back to living. Most countries have already began this including Israel which has been one of the more strict countries through this pandemic. At least until the next major variant pops up. At some point the stress and unhealthly behaviors of this lockdown will start trading years off the young and health for those of the sick and elderly. If you consider omicron makes up 95% of cases, that would mean delta makes up the other 5%. Because we're not testing, the estimates are that the real infection number is 3-4x the reported number, that puts us around 9-10K per day. That means that delta is running at about 500 cases per day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, stawns said: If you consider omicron makes up 95% of cases, that would mean delta makes up the other 5%. Because we're not testing, the estimates are that the real infection number is 3-4x the reported number, that puts us around 9-10K per day. That means that delta is running at about 500 cases per day. It will continue to decrease though as omicron is the dominate strain now, which is great news are Delta has a much higher chance at causing severe illness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 During Dr Henry's press conference now a reporter just asked " the sudden move to lift isolation requirements for vaxxed does mean we are now endemic - why the sudden shift' Dr Henry said we are not endemic just yet but moving that way. I've supported her all along but not on this. The exact second covid positive people were greenighted to not isolate ( vaxxed ) that is the definition of endemic. As soon as its legalized that covid positive people are permitted around us and like a common cold that's just a risk of being around people ..... its endemic I disagree with this move at this time and BCs return to "pretty please do the right thing" is pandering to the vocal minority I'm all for easing restrictions but on the singular issue of now forcing people to qcceept known covid positive people in our workspaces and public space is the wrong move 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EP Phone Home Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 This sounds like a white flag being waved today. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MeanSeanBean Posted January 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, rotiman187 said: https://globalnews.ca/news/8529236/covid-omicron-coronavirus-peak/ I should freaking hope so. Our healthcare system can't handle much more. I don't think the majority know how bad the last month and half have been. Anyone who thought omicron was easy and wasn't straining the system is straight up wrong. If our current condition continued to trend in the way it has the last 6 weeks for another 2, the results would likely be dire. All you have to do is look at the ICU rate from week to week over the past few. It's gone up roughly 12% a week. I believe the most recent numbers sit around 115, or over 38% of our total beds. It's hard to describe how insane that is that we could easily hit 40, or even 50% in a week or 2 if things continue... Edited January 21, 2022 by Shayster007 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 28 minutes ago, stawns said: If you consider omicron makes up 95% of cases, that would mean delta makes up the other 5%. Because we're not testing, the estimates are that the real infection number is 3-4x the reported number, that puts us around 9-10K per day. That means that delta is running at about 500 cases per day. Posted tuesday in this thread.Well, here is a link regarding the split between variants. As of Jan 14/22 http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Info-Site/Documents/VoC/VoC_Weekly_20220114.pdf "As shown in Figure 1, the main circulating variants are Delta and Omicron, respectively accounting for about 6.6% and 93.4% of positive specimens sequenced, with spatial variability" I'm not a mathematician, but 6.6% looks a little over 3x , the 2% that was mentioned. This variant split info should be updated later today- says it happens every Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, EP Phone Home said: This sounds like a white flag being waved today. Yup ....she says pretty please do the right thing but basically just ended the pandemic stage immediately 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, EP Phone Home said: This sounds like a white flag being waved today. Finally some light at the end of the tunnel, yearly covid shots like the flu shot and we should be good to go back to normal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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