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1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

Poiliverre is the biggest danger to conservative politics in this nation.  he is EVERYTHING wrong with the conservative brand.  Less work and life experience than Shcheer but speaking for the common man, hard core social conservative but he can manipulate emotions and he speaks long and loud enough that people believe his lies.

 

He is a serious threat to the overall stability of this nation when he finally runs for leader

the best thing that can happen to the CPC is for Harper to stop meddling in who gets selected. Thats the only way Poutine rises to the top. 

 

They aren't a fiscal Conservative party, they are a social conservative party. Thats why its always silly season with them now. 

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Large new data releases out of California and New York by the CDC show interesting and positive results. People who recover from Covid are extremely unlikely to suffer hospitalization thereafter. The natural immunity they gain is stronger than vaccine immunity alone, as one would expect. There's also no benefit shown to the vaccine + natural immunity combination. Of course it confirms vaccinated are way less likely to be hospitalized than unvaccinated who have not already survived Covid.

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Poiliverre is the biggest danger to conservative politics in this nation.  he is EVERYTHING wrong with the conservative brand.  Less work and life experience than Shcheer but speaking for the common man, hard core social conservative but he can manipulate emotions and he speaks long and loud enough that people believe his lies.

 

He is a serious threat to the overall stability of this nation when he finally runs for leader

Here's what baffles me about the conservative movement........so many rank and file conservatives were people who peaked in high school and were the kinds of people who bullied and picked on other kids...........guess who they would have picked on?  They would have bullied and taunted many of the leaders they now worship at the feet of, like PP.  It's honestly mind boggling.

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6 minutes ago, Alflives said:

getting Covid isn't really a smart way to gain immunity.  Plus, immunity wanes, so those who have recovered from Covid will still need a booster.  Sure makes a lot more sense to get vaccinated in the first place, no?

This.  This is the part of the whole "natural immunity" crowd likes to gloss over.  Yes, those who were unfortunate to get Covid before the vaccines were widely available to them do have immunity from the infection.  As you said, immunity wanes so getting vaccinated/boosted should be considered.

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20 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

This.  This is the part of the whole "natural immunity" crowd likes to gloss over.  Yes, those who were unfortunate to get Covid before the vaccines were widely available to them do have immunity from the infection.  As you said, immunity wanes so getting vaccinated/boosted should be considered.

Further to that point, there is also a tonne of evidence that suggests that being vaccinated after recovering from Covid provides heightened protection from reinfection and severe symptoms....

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1 hour ago, johngould21 said:

..and a leader who has no idea who in his caucus is vaccinated, and won't ask either.

I’m willing to bet that most or all of them *ARE* fully vaccinated but don’t want to say it publicly to anger their *social* conservative base.

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8 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

I’m willing to bet that most or all of them *ARE* fully vaccinated but don’t want to say it publicly to anger their *social* conservative base.

I'd say almost all of them.  It's just one big grift for them

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So regarding the trucker convoy fir Karen's or the flu trucks clan

 

I wonder how many if them as owner operators would accept government help for mileage etc and relaxed vaxx status in return for the government having  weekly access to their logs, monthly cvse inspections of their vehicles and bi yearly certification of their vehicles and knowledge of the road.

 

How many do you think would submit to that?

 

Knowing a number of owner operators who fudge their logs and don't get their vehicles certified or inspected... ever.

 

So it would be interesting to see a CVSE blockade waiting for these guys at the Ontario border

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1 hour ago, Alflives said:

getting Covid isn't really a smart way to gain immunity.  Plus, immunity wanes, so those who have recovered from Covid will still need a booster.  Sure makes a lot more sense to get vaccinated in the first place, no?

"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." --Charles Bukowski

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7 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

So regarding the trucker convoy fir Karen's or the flu trucks clan

 

I like Karenworth. Or Freightwhiner. 

 

7 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

 

I wonder how many if them as owner operators would accept government help for mileage etc and relaxed vaxx status in return for the government having  weekly access to their logs, monthly cvse inspections of their vehicles and bi yearly certification of their vehicles and knowledge of the road.

 

How many do you think would submit to that?

 

Knowing a number of owner operators who fudge their logs and don't get their vehicles certified or inspected... ever.

 

So it would be interesting to see a CVSE blockade waiting for these guys at the Ontario border

I'm sure these guys are frustrated. Who isn't? 

 

But the CPC is playing the empty anger game, as usual. They are going to stoke the anger with these guys and in the end get them nothing.

 

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12 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

So it would be interesting to see a CVSE blockade waiting for these guys at the Ontario border

not bad, get them to come to the inspectors.

good opportunity- drivers can't claim they have to deliver something by such and such time, as they are running empty.

So the authorities aren't making something worse as those trucks aren't hauling right now anyway.

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