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5 minutes ago, TOMapleLaughs said:

Society's rules with regards to omicron are changing by the day regardless.  So why do we need to make such grandiose statements about it now when they will be obsolete in a week?

Well, as I said earlier, you are entitled to your voice, as long as it does not break any laws.....I support that

 

Society has deemed it the way they want to do it.......can you respect that?

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, TOMapleLaughs said:

Perhaps the public feels they're no longer needed?  Or are we all terrorists now?

 

That won't work either.

Perhaps it should be put to a vote or something instead of having the stupidest people on the planet decide they have the right to speak for all Canadians?

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1 minute ago, TOMapleLaughs said:

Perhaps the public feels they're no longer needed?  Or are we all terrorists now?

 

That won't work either.

Sorry, but the public does not get a voice, other than to protest legally.................

 

Are you saying that the majority of Canadians agree with you?

 

Because it is my opinion that they do not! Again, can you respect my view?

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Just now, J.I.A.H.N said:

well, as I said earlier, you are entitled to your voice, as long as it does not break any ways.....I support that

 

Society has deemed it the way they want to do it.......can you respect that?

Can you respect that the government is loosening restrictions because society has deemed it so?

 

I don't support the trucking protest as it's quite theatrically baked anyway.  I mean, who cares about a microminority of unvaxxed truckers that don't impact the general populace anyway?

 

The overwhelming public sentiment prior to that protest was to loosen restrictions as required.  So that's where we are at.  Waiting.

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Just now, TOMapleLaughs said:

Can you respect that the government is loosening restrictions because society has deemed it so?

 

I don't support the trucking protest as it's quite theatrically baked anyway.  I mean, who cares about a microminority of unvaxxed truckers that don't impact the general populace anyway?

 

The overwhelming public sentiment prior to that protest was to loosen restrictions as required.  So that's where we are at.  Waiting.

And I'm good with loosening the restrictions other than the vax passport.  Seems like a reasonable compromise.

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1 minute ago, TOMapleLaughs said:

Can you respect that the government is loosening restrictions because society has deemed it so?

 

I don't support the trucking protest as it's quite theatrically baked anyway.  I mean, who cares about a microminority of unvaxxed truckers that don't impact the general populace anyway?

 

The overwhelming public sentiment prior to that protest was to loosen restrictions as required.  So that's where we are at.  Waiting.

Where are you getting your facts from?

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1 minute ago, J.I.A.H.N said:

Sorry, but the public does not get a voice, other than to protest legally.................

 

Are you saying that the majority of Canadians agree with you?

 

Because it is my opinion that they do not! Again, can you respect my view?

https://torontosun.com/news/national/majority-of-canadians-want-covid-restrictions-lifted-poll

 

Of course they agree with me.  It's completely reasonable to want covid restrictions lifted at this point.  Why would it have been any other way given the current circumstances?

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1 minute ago, TOMapleLaughs said:

Can you respect that the government is loosening restrictions because society has deemed it so?

 

I don't support the trucking protest as it's quite theatrically baked anyway.  I mean, who cares about a microminority of unvaxxed truckers that don't impact the general populace anyway?

 

The overwhelming public sentiment prior to that protest was to loosen restrictions as required.  So that's where we are at.  Waiting.

Few truckers, but the majority are vile Nazi supporters.  We’ve seen the evidence of these persons’ behaviour.  

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1 minute ago, King Heffy said:

And I'm good with loosening the restrictions other than the vax passport.  Seems like a reasonable compromise.

Considering vax passports were made redundant when they had installed cap. restrictions, I'm not sure why anyone would be hell bent at this point on keeping them installed.

 

How long btw?  Forever?  A few weeks?  What?

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Just now, TOMapleLaughs said:

I believe we've gone over this.  No calling them all nazis won't work.  It's just laziness to do so.

So what do you call someone who stands beside a Nazi and is ok with their presence?

 

1 minute ago, TOMapleLaughs said:

Considering vax passports were made redundant when they had installed cap. restrictions, I'm not sure why anyone would be hell bent at this point on keeping them installed.

 

How long btw?  Forever?  A few weeks?  What?

Permanently.  The places the antivaxxers are banned from are all optional activities.  They can get their privileges when they start acting like adults, or they can accept the consequences of their choice.  I might have been ok with removing them eventually, but the open attack on our country has changed my mind.  Give them something to really cry about.

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35 minutes ago, TOMapleLaughs said:

https://torontosun.com/news/national/majority-of-canadians-want-covid-restrictions-lifted-poll

 

Of course they agree with me.  It's completely reasonable to want covid restrictions lifted at this point.  Why would it have been any other way given the current circumstances?

Well, I think that is a good point, which I can get behind to some degree...........

 

I will say this though............it all depends on how the question was posed ..aka wording

 

But in general, I would say, that we still need to go with the science in that "IF" science says, it is time, I am all for it.

 

Case in point................if you ask everyone, if they would "like" to have the restriction over.............you may well get 100% saying yes

 

If you ask everyone, do you wish for the restrictions to be over, even though there may still be 20,000 Canadians die from Covid..............then you may get a different answer

 

So, I expect my Government to make educated decisions based on science in this matter.............not on people personal selfish reasons......and I am not just talking about anti-vaxxers.

 

People are self serving in general.........................aka Church people going into church during this crisis

 

In the United states, the ratio of death is 3 to 1 Republicans over Democrats..............that is basically 600,000 to 200,000.....................explain that

Because science can explain it................less Republicans were vacinated..............science told them that that would happen, even though the majority of Republicans thought otherwise.................

 

So again, I go with Science, not my best friend, not my mother, not you, but science.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, TOMapleLaughs said:

Can you respect that the government is loosening restrictions because society has deemed it so?

 

I don't support the trucking protest as it's quite theatrically baked anyway.  I mean, who cares about a microminority of unvaxxed truckers that don't impact the general populace anyway?

 

The overwhelming public sentiment prior to that protest was to loosen restrictions as required.  So that's where we are at.  Waiting.


I wouldn’t call 54% “overwhelming” but I will concede that the sentiment for loosening restrictions is growing. Lots of people are done with Covid but the question to ask is Covid done with us?  IMO when data shows that hospitals aren’t likely to be overwhelmed and can handle the cases of people with Covid without stopping access to surgeries for those in need then I agree it’s time. That is by far the most important metric.
 

I also agree that not many really care about the small number of unvaccinated truckers. People who want the loosening of restrictions used their cause to show their frustration. Unfortunately most of those people have gone home and Ottawa is left with mostly misfits and worse that have a very different agenda. And I can tell you that the citizens of Ottawa who are impacted horribly care a great deal.
 

Vaccinated truckers are doing just fine except for some non-Covid related issues.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, spur1 said:

My poor allergies. Yes I want winter to be over too so I will just camp out here and call it a protest. I demand that winter is over and we no longer need to wear clothes. I will stay here until winter is over. 
Thank goodness for Spring. 

 

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2 minutes ago, J.I.A.H.N said:

Well, I am going to be a red neck now................as I say take all restriction off now, and let natural selection work its wonders!


If not for health care workers and those having surgeries cancelled I would totally agree. You can’t help someone who refuses to help him/herself.

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