WeneedLumme Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: Its true people have gotten over Covid. Its also true the hospitals ICU's are also full. One of my co-workers took compassionate leave yesterday. His dad, 3 years younger than me & I am not particularly long in tooth, opted to spend his last weeks at home instead of ICU. His lungs so baked from his Covid he cannot survive. He cannot speak, brought a stretcher bed for him. My co-worker to care and be with his dad during that time. That's pretty sad. Or, as the ignorant selfish jackasses would say, "D'uh, it's jist like a flu, he wuz probly dying alredy. Everbudy i no has alredy had it and wants the restricshuns ended rite now." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Canada's largest trucking company: https://ca.yahoo.com/finance/news/ceo-canadas-largest-trucking-company-144900576.html Doubt they're a unique company. Most of their truckers got jabbed. The ones that refused got re-assigned non-US duties. Cry me a river Ottawa "truck driver" snowflakes. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 https://torontolife.com/city/we-didnt-engage-with-the-truckers-and-that-seemed-to-make-them-even-angrier-what-it-was-like-to-escort-health-care-workers-through-the-protest/ I mean the protestors are just good, decent Canadians who want their freedom back right @TOMapleLaughs? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, WeneedLumme said: That's pretty sad. Or, as the ignorant selfish jackasses would say, "D'uh, it's jist like a flu, he wuz probly dying alredy. Everbudy i no has alredy had it and wants the restricshuns ended rite now." That's not it. It's that we're all getting it regardless of restrictions. We're all in the same boat, pretending that restrictions work when they clearly don't. I mean the PM of Canada even got it forcryingoutloud. So henceforth more and more Canadians are going to think 'well &^@# it. If I'm already rolling the dice with this i might as well live my life.' So that's where we are at. Boosting those at risk and hoping for the best. As for bed capacity, welcome to a decades-old complaint in BC. Still need to address that beyond the pandemic in a big way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, TOMapleLaughs said: That's not it. It's that we're all getting it regardless of restrictions. We're all in the same boat, pretending that restrictions work when they clearly don't. I mean the PM of Canada even got it forcryingoutloud. So henceforth more and more Canadians are going to think 'well &^@# it. If I'm already rolling the dice with this i might as well live my life.' So that's where we are at. Boosting those at risk and hoping for the best. As for bed capacity, welcome to a decades-old complaint in BC. Still need to address that beyond the pandemic in a big way. I actually expect the vax mandate in bc to extend to a third dose given the low uptake 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, TOMapleLaughs said: That's not it. It's that we're all getting it regardless of restrictions. We're all in the same boat, pretending that restrictions work when they clearly don't. I mean the PM of Canada even got it forcryingoutloud. So henceforth more and more Canadians are going to think 'well &^@# it. If I'm already rolling the dice with this i might as well live my life.' So that's where we are at. Boosting those at risk and hoping for the best. As for bed capacity, welcome to a decades-old complaint in BC. Still need to address that beyond the pandemic in a big way. Still completely glossing over the danger of having everyone sick at once. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 16 hours ago, Cerridwen said: Still too &^@#ing stupid to even check out the WHY OR THE CIRCUMSTANCES team Canada was wearing those masks. You make me sick with your lies and propaganda and misinformation.Piss off Not like any further explanation is necessary but here is some anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJockitch Posted February 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, TOMapleLaughs said: That's not it. It's that we're all getting it regardless of restrictions. We're all in the same boat, pretending that restrictions work when they clearly don't. I mean the PM of Canada even got it forcryingoutloud. So henceforth more and more Canadians are going to think 'well &^@# it. If I'm already rolling the dice with this i might as well live my life.' So that's where we are at. Boosting those at risk and hoping for the best. As for bed capacity, welcome to a decades-old complaint in BC. Still need to address that beyond the pandemic in a big way. I guess you need to think about what the restrictions are there for. The idea is to flatten the curve not necessarily reduce the area under the curve. This by definition means two things that are important. We are not reducing the number of infections, the total will likely end up being similar. We are trying to spread the same number out over a longer period of time. This is to try and prevent what has been happening with shutting down of other services and keep the healthcare system on its feet. The problem with this is human nature, people are impatient and have been put through a lot the last two years. We are self centred, what we tend to think about first is what does this mean to me. When you have an illness that on an individual basis is not that deadly, this feeling gets even more acute especially if you have difficulty moving to the next part which is what does this mean to the society and people around me which is where COVID is the bigger issue, society wide. Now yes, the decades long under funding of healthcare and the managerial degradation of health care capacity is coming to a head because of a general inability to suddenly scale up health care needs in the face of a pandemic. I will say though it may feel like it, the overall mitigation of COVID risk in Canada has been quite successful. US mortality rates are triple ours when corrected for population and they really don't seem to care. While yes it would be fun to sit in a full arena and cheer our faces off, we need to step back accept our successes as well as our failures. Hopefully we are entering the pandemic endgame and moving to a new phase, but it is hard to say 100%. 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: I guess you need to think about what the restrictions are there for. The idea is to flatten the curve not necessarily reduce the area under the curve. This by definition means two things that are important. We are not reducing the number of infections, the total will likely end up being similar. We are trying to spread the same number out over a longer period of time. This is to try and prevent what has been happening with shutting down of other services and keep the healthcare system on its feet. The problem with this is human nature, people are impatient and have been put through a lot the last two years. We are self centred, what we tend to think about first is what does this mean to me. When you have an illness that on an individual basis is not that deadly, this feeling gets even more acute especially if you have difficulty moving to the next part which is what does this mean to the society and people around me which is where COVID is the bigger issue, society wide. Now yes, the decades long under funding of healthcare and the managerial degradation of health care capacity is coming to a head because of a general inability to suddenly scale up health care needs in the face of a pandemic. I will say though it may feel like it, the overall mitigation of COVID risk in Canada has been quite successful. US mortality rates are triple ours when corrected for population and they really don't seem to care. While yes it would be fun to sit in a full arena and cheer our faces off, we need to step back accept our successes as well as our failures. Hopefully we are entering the pandemic endgame and moving to a new phase, but it is hard to say 100%. Look no further than Israel who thought it was "mission accomplished" & they started to prematurely relax things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 28 minutes ago, stawns said: I actually expect the vax mandate in bc to extend to a third dose given the low uptake Not a chance, adding an unnecessary mandate at this point would be a clown move. Hospitalization rates are freefalling. Getting Covid is the equivalent to getting the vaccine but don't show up in the booster numbers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Bure_Pavel said: Not a chance, adding an unnecessary mandate at this point would be a clown move. Hospitalization rates are freefalling. Getting Covid is the equivalent to getting the vaccine but don't show up in the booster numbers. Huh? We have a chance to get in front of this, finally, but boosters are going to be a major factor in that as protection wanes over time. If people aren't getting boosted, then all were doing is pushing sh!t uphill 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Bure_Pavel said: Not a chance, adding an unnecessary mandate at this point would be a clown move. Hospitalization rates are freefalling. Getting Covid is the equivalent to getting the vaccine but don't show up in the booster numbers. Are they though?? The BC numbers don't seem to reflect your assertion. Unlike you and your ilk, I can provide a source to back me up. The numbers have been similar for some time, not free-falling as you assert. Would love to see a source, but I'm not holding my breath. From Monday's update: 987 COVID-positive individuals are in hospital and 141 are in intensive care. https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2022HLTH0042-000179 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gurn Posted February 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2022 MY opinion: If people are repeatedly asked to provide a source, for their claims, and repeatedly do not do so; they should not be allowed to post. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, gurn said: MY opinion: If people are repeatedly asked to provide a source, for their claims, and repeatedly do not do so; they should not be allowed to post. I'll also add that a minimum post count and reputation should be needed before the off topic section is even available. It will at least make the trolls work harder. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Ultimately, restrictions will start coming off soon and I think, in BC, we have a high enough vax rate to at least keep a cap on things if omicron subsides. I think masks will be around for awhile and I expect vax mandates to last until summer, at least, maybe beyond and maybe covering boosters as well. I guess we'll find out today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, stawns said: Ultimately, restrictions will start coming off soon and I think, in BC, we have a high enough vax rate to at least keep a cap on things if omicron subsides. I think masks will be around for awhile and I expect vax mandates to last until summer, at least, maybe beyond and maybe covering boosters as well. I guess we'll find out today Of course the sympathetic ears in Kenny and Moe will drop restrictions early. I've posted before how that is a bad idea. Stupid is as stupid does. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Just now, thedestroyerofworlds said: Of course the sympathetic ears in Kenny and Moe will drop restrictions early. I've posted before how that is a bad idea. Stupid is as stupid does. they've been through that song and dance a couple of times now and it's yet to do anything but make it worse for Albertan health care workers and make themselves look very bad when they have to capitulate and re-introduce restrictions. I don't think their vax rate is high enough to get away with it this time either 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, DrJockitch said: I guess you need to think about what the restrictions are there for. The idea is to flatten the curve not necessarily reduce the area under the curve. This by definition means two things that are important. We are not reducing the number of infections, the total will likely end up being similar. We are trying to spread the same number out over a longer period of time. This is to try and prevent what has been happening with shutting down of other services and keep the healthcare system on its feet. The problem with this is human nature, people are impatient and have been put through a lot the last two years. We are self centred, what we tend to think about first is what does this mean to me. When you have an illness that on an individual basis is not that deadly, this feeling gets even more acute especially if you have difficulty moving to the next part which is what does this mean to the society and people around me which is where COVID is the bigger issue, society wide. Now yes, the decades long under funding of healthcare and the managerial degradation of health care capacity is coming to a head because of a general inability to suddenly scale up health care needs in the face of a pandemic. I will say though it may feel like it, the overall mitigation of COVID risk in Canada has been quite successful. US mortality rates are triple ours when corrected for population and they really don't seem to care. While yes it would be fun to sit in a full arena and cheer our faces off, we need to step back accept our successes as well as our failures. Hopefully we are entering the pandemic endgame and moving to a new phase, but it is hard to say 100%. The period of rampant infections was late December to mid January. Uncounted mostly because BC's testing was overwhelmed. Month later... No sign of overwhelmed hospitals. Good news. So BC along with the other provinces will inevitably remove restrictions as the public demands. Only a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Of course the sympathetic ears in Kenny and Moe will drop restrictions early. I've posted before how that is a bad idea. Stupid is as stupid does. It will likely poke more people to move to Alberta and Saskatchewan. That along with housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, TOMapleLaughs said: The period of rampant infections was late December to mid January. Uncounted mostly because BC's testing was overwhelmed. Month later... No sign of overwhelmed hospitals. Good news. So BC along with the other provinces will inevitably remove restrictions as the public demands. Only a matter of time. wedon't know infections are dropping fast, no one is testing. I can tell you, they are still going strong in my school. We've had multiple teachers out for two solid weeks in the last three weeks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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