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4 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

That sucks. Do you have coverage at the school?

so far.  I'm one of the last ones to get it, we've managed to spread it out pretty well so far.  I think we hit our peak early last week.  Started with a sore throat on sunday afternoon and has stayed there, for the most part.......a bit in the ears, a bit congested, a bit woozy but that's it.  Feel ok otherwise

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10 minutes ago, stawns said:

for the record, it was a covid test!

I'm so sorry, stawns :( Like you didn't have enough to deal with the first time around. I hope it's a much speedier recovery this time around. Bad enough to have Covid once, but twice is just a slap in the face insult. Especially when you've done so much to limit exposure..

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3 minutes ago, Cerridwen said:

I'm so sorry, stawns :( Like you didn't have enough to deal with the first time around. I hope it's a much speedier recovery this time around. Bad enough to have Covid once, but twice is just a slap in the face insult. Especially when you've done so much to limit exposure..

I knew it was coming, you can't be directly exposed to 500 people every day and not get it I guess.  I got my booster the week before we came back, so I feel pretty ok about it........like I said, I'm one of the last on staff to get it, so I'll just hunker down this week.  So far, so good......good time for it, with olympics on

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15 minutes ago, Industrious1 said:

Some good points being made on both sides.  Although I do believe that some 'arguments' were more valid than others 3-6 months ago.  As such, they have been rendered somewhat ineffective/confusing as the situation has evolved.  I am referring to certain mandates, which clearly aren't being followed seriously anymore or the more egregious travel mandates/restrictions which are currently front and center in the news and in many conversations happening around the globe.  

 

Letting 'er rip as some would say is probably the not the safest way forward but some would say it is the most practical.  The answer is most likely something in-between that and lockdowns because at this point the government stands to lose serious face (and certain hardliners) if they just 180 and let things drop, there is pride and politics to consider (we can see it in this very thread).

 

The equitable way forward has to involve a compromise between those in power and the disenfranchised that would allow both to go home knowing that they've both pulled on the same rope and did the right thing.  The way backward could be any number of things.

 

Either way it will be very interesting to observe.  

 

 

There are two sides here?  Normal good peoples’ side, and the antivaxxer, dewormer eating, urine drinking, Nazi supporting, war memorial desecrating, cowardly loser side?  Those two sides?  

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1 minute ago, stawns said:

I knew it was coming, you can't be directly exposed to 500 people every day and not get it I guess.  I got my booster the week before we came back, so I feel pretty ok about it........like I said, I'm one of the last on staff to get it, so I'll just hunker down this week.  So far, so good......good time for it, with olympics on

If there had to be a time to be home sick....

Thank goodness for vaccines and booster shots, eh?

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Just now, Cerridwen said:

If there had to be a time to be home sick....

Thank goodness for vaccines and booster shots, eh?

yup, we've had a few pretty sick staff members, even with their boosters........the prevailing sentiment being "I can't imagine what it would be without the vax"

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Just now, Alflives said:

There are two sides here?  Normal good peoples’ side, and the antivaxxer, dewormer eating, urine drinking, Nazi supporting, war memorial desecrating, cowardly loser side?  Those two sides?  

Ah, yes.  This viewpoint. 

 

Very bracing, but not terribly helpful in discourse.  I imagine each side in the debate has a number of like-minded individuals and that is certainly your prerogative to take, however ultimately nothing but violence comes out of such rhetoric.  I tend to be opposed to violence, be it from one viewpoint or the other.  

 

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1 hour ago, TOMapleLaughs said:

Whatever you want to believe to suit a preconceived notion is the norm for all discourse on this matter. 

 

Meanwhile the government is reducing restrictions anyway. (Psst, because they don't work and aren't even needed.)

 

Where's the construction of new facilities or even temporary ones if the 'overwhelming' is accurate?


Any chance the “want to believe to suit a preconceived notion” is yours not mine? I’m just looking at your numbers and trying to make sense of them.

 

I agree the government is reducing and easing restrictions. Not because they don’t work but because  they are trying to strike a balance between a health crisis and the economy. There will always be some disagreement on the timing and degree of these restrictions but they will come and sooner than later is my guess.

 

Your last point about construction of new facilities and how health care budgets are spent is a worthwhile discussion but that’s a solution for future problems and doesn’t solve anything for the present.

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1 hour ago, TOMapleLaughs said:

Whatever you want to believe to suit a preconceived notion is the norm for all discourse on this matter. 

 

Meanwhile the government is reducing restrictions anyway. (Psst, because they don't work and aren't even needed.)

 

Where's the construction of new facilities or even temporary ones if the 'overwhelming' is accurate?

Tell that to the southern USA and Brazil. Heck even Sweden said 'eff it' to restrictions earlier in the pandemic then they got hit hard with cases and had to lockdown.

 

But yes, I think we are going to see a reduction in restrictions.

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3 minutes ago, Industrious1 said:

Ah, yes.  This viewpoint. 

 

Very bracing, but not terribly helpful in discourse.  I imagine each side in the debate has a number of like-minded individuals and that is certainly your prerogative to take, however ultimately nothing but violence comes out of such rhetoric.  I tend to be opposed to violence, be it from one viewpoint or the other.  

 

So it’s your opinion the good Canadians, who are working hard to be part of a greater community should have civil discourse with Nazi supporters who desecrate our cenotaphs, who are violently protesting at our hospitals, who are threatening our healthcare workers, are who are actively intimidating school children?  

There are not two sides to this situation.  

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2 minutes ago, Alflives said:

So it’s your opinion the good Canadians, who are working hard to be part of a greater community should have civil discourse with Nazi supporters who desecrate our cenotaphs, who are violently protesting at our hospitals, who are threatening our healthcare workers, are who are actively intimidating school children?  

There are not two sides to this situation.  

I believe both sides tend to misrepresent the other, it is a tool of modern politics and a very effective one.  As is being evidenced right now.  The idea is that you place the onus upon me to agree with you or risk being labelled as a racist or some other undesirable tag.  Highly effective....too effective really, because it has become the wedge that divides us in society right now.  

 

A step back from such rhetoric and hate would be better advised, unless of course one wishes to descend into violence.  If that is the goal then there is no faster way to get there.  

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6 minutes ago, Industrious1 said:

I believe both sides tend to misrepresent the other, it is a tool of modern politics and a very effective one.  As is being evidenced right now.  The idea is that you place the onus upon me to agree with you or risk being labelled as a racist or some other undesirable tag.  Highly effective....too effective really, because it has become the wedge that divides us in society right now.  

 

A step back from such rhetoric and hate would be better advised, unless of course one wishes to descend into violence.  If that is the goal then there is no faster way to get there.  

Again, there are not two sides.  That implies the antivaxxers deserve a platform.  They don’t.  Anyone who supports those people is attaching their support to the actions of that group. 

It’s similar to The Rock withdrawing his support of Joe Rogan, when he learned of Rogan’s racist attitudes.  The more we learn of the antivaxxers’ behaviours, the more good people know to not support them.  

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2 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said:

I don't know if hateleafs should have been banned. Hopefully it's just a time out. Opposing view points are healthy. I'm sure he is still reading the thread... when you come back use verifiable information and not conjecture to back up your position.

Entirely up to the mods to decide.  They tend to give a reasonable amount of rope for someone to hang theirself.

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What do the protesters want?

What is the line in the sand?

 

Some say it's about removing all restrictions.

Some say they are sticking it out until JT resigns. 

 

It started with the truckers wanting to protest their industry restrictions which they should be allowed to do.

 

But can anyone tell me what would/could make them budge and let their fellow Canadians in Ottawa no longer be under siege?

Someone that supports, please give me a response.

 

Oh, Btw. 

Can some people stop saying that there was only one confederate flag? Thats false.

The dude from Gatineau in the posted reddit vids actually cracked me up..."I'm from Gatineau!" ...." thats not a Gatineau flag"...."It's the only one I had in my house!"

 

I dont know why I found that soo funny. Maybe it was his silly confidence 

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18 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said:

I don't know if hateleafs should have been banned. Hopefully it's just a time out. Opposing view points are healthy. I'm sure he is still reading the thread... when you come back use verifiable information and not conjecture to back up your position.

Opposing view points are definitely necessary, but that poster was rarely supplying any supporting evidence from anywhere near reliable and ignored several requests for supporting info. They had their chance and they blew it big time

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1 hour ago, nuckin_futz said:

They shouldn't have lost the last one either but they keep running unelectable muppets.

 

Do you really think this 42 year old nerd is the saviour?

 

Pierre Poilievre, Conservative MP for Carleton | openparliament.ca

I always laugh at these rednecks who likely bullied guts like PP in high school, now they bow at his feet.  And they call the rest of us sheep 

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3 minutes ago, Hamhuis Hip Check said:

Opposing view points are definitely necessary, but that poster was rarely supplying any supporting evidence from anywhere near reliable and ignored several requests for supporting info. They had their chance and they blew it big time


I guess I will grow old(er) waiting for him to post the Nazi flag at BLM protests, other than the one that the Trump supporter tore up to prove he wasn’t a white supremacist or nazi.

 

FWIW a nazi flag would not be acceptable at a BLM or any other protest, so not even sure what his point was. Nazi symbols, confederate flags, etc ought to be banned in Canada, period.

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